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- iVisionX01, on 11/16/2009, -2/+52It's also better.
- m0llusk, on 11/16/2009, -3/+49Legacy code like Symbian is what Android is replacing.
- sean2390, on 11/16/2009, -0/+31Because Symbian needs re-written from scratch with future technology based in mind so it can expand and change easily. The current Symbian OS is aging badly.
- Parlo33, on 11/16/2009, -1/+31any nobody buys google, its all free
- s73v3r, on 11/16/2009, -0/+19At the time Gmail was revolutionary simply because they offered something like a Gig of storage at a time when most other free email services were only offering 10-100 MB.
- psychoace, on 11/16/2009, -1/+18FTA:
"Despite Symbian announcing new handsets, Google is actually shipping Android. There's a big difference between marketing and reality. Google Android offers the latter."
WHAT? So is this suggesting that Symbian is not a real product and is vaporware? I had a Nokia n95 (now own a G1) and it is definitely not vaporware. This is why I don't read business tech sites and mags (like PC World and PC Magazine) cause half the time they are three steps behind technology. - chriscalifornia, on 11/16/2009, -3/+18Because it's awesome
- DelSolMan, on 11/16/2009, -0/+14Because their wannabe app-store only have around 50 apps and even the crappy ones cost money: http://www.symbian.org/applications
- spiralspirit, on 11/16/2009, -3/+16I don't buy you're argument, fallingdamage.
Google has released good products, and in general they are free. Sometimes they arent anything revolutionary, like gmail (which is basically email with tags), but in general they are quality products/services. google search, google maps (now with streetview), adsense, sketchup, etc etc. People use them because they're *good* and because they tend to be very low cost or free. - TommyBoy919, on 11/16/2009, -5/+18Oh wow, Symbian still exists...how 'bout that.
Maybe they are losing mindshare because they are only used by a single provider whose phones aren't even slightly popular in the US, and because their code is a relic with no new version in sight. - collution, on 11/16/2009, -3/+15Because it's clearly better.
- madeingermany, on 11/16/2009, -0/+12Yeah, i don't like the gist of this article that it's just because of brand.
I bought an Android phone because I liked the technology. Well and the rooting and cool firmware :p - ohreilly, on 11/16/2009, -2/+13"whose phones aren't even slightly popular in the US"
But are very popular in Europe. Your point? - borez, on 11/16/2009, -1/+11Agreed, the Nokia 5800 and N97 are definitely shipping massive numbers with Symbian installed and, to be honest it's a damn fine operating system.
- taibo, on 11/16/2009, -0/+9His point was that the crappy apps cost money, but in Android they're free.
- borez, on 11/16/2009, -3/+12What the ***** is this crap. Considering Nokia has a 40.2% market share of Worldwide ( not just American ) mobile phone market I'd say the Sybian operating system is actually kicking the crap out of Android usage wise.
And to be honest, in the Grand scheme of Worldwide phone sales, the iPhone is absolutely dwarfed by Nokia. People who write these articles really do think the world doesn't actually exists outside of the US. - mrsteveman1, on 11/16/2009, -1/+9Clearly only the US matters
- X9001, on 11/17/2009, -1/+8Every time I read that title I think "sybian"
- monkeyrun, on 11/16/2009, -0/+7because Nokia didn't really do much with Symbian at all...
It's like if Palm decides to open source PalmOS, no one except a few guys who uses treo would care. - taibo, on 11/16/2009, -2/+9More like Google is ***** out gold bricks and giving them away, as long as you let them put Adsense on it.
- lukas88, on 11/17/2009, -0/+6Correction, no one sees that as a negative. Except for the dumb.
- MrChunks, on 11/17/2009, -0/+6@KeithLM,
A few years ago there weren't many other options than Symbian. Which will probably be why they had over 70% of the market. - s73v3r, on 11/16/2009, -2/+8Most users don't care about that. Most users like that there is one central place to get stuff for their phone.
- mrsteveman1, on 11/16/2009, -1/+7Android got to market faster because of open source code..... which is partly why they're winning.
- zbeast, on 11/16/2009, -1/+6The important thin is to be able to deliver a high quality product with a rich feature set.
Not to spend unnecessary weeks and months clawing around in other people source code
to bring a product to market. As it is currently developing with symbian.
When Symbinan's only competition was windows CE... Symbinan was the go to os...
Now that Android is here,Symbinan's is looking a little long in the tooth...
I have a product to sell, not a religion to follow.
- fallingdamage, on 11/16/2009, -18/+23Because its google.
Google has become like apple in some ways. They could take a ***** and stick their logo on it and people would buy it by the bagful, smear it all over their PCs, and claim that it makes them better. - coheedcollapse, on 11/17/2009, -0/+5Also, at the time, Gmail was the only out of any of the free mail services that could filter out junk mail 100%.
I had a hotmail account and was sick of the ridiculous amount of spam plus the fact that I kept on having to delete old email to fit it all in. - beand1p, on 11/17/2009, -0/+5And the fact that Gmail's layout doesn't molest your eyeballs
- verkon, on 11/17/2009, -0/+4The following brands use(d) Symbian, be it s60/80/90 or UIQ:
SonyEricsson
Motorola
Nokia
Samsung
BenQ
All of those manufactures are unpopular in the US and only used by a single provider? - borez, on 11/16/2009, -1/+5No it's not...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbian - Wuss, on 11/16/2009, -1/+5Android is the new girl in school, just like any new exciting tech that seems to offer a legitimate alternative to the tired ol' boobies n ass you're used to looking at. Remember RoR when it first came out? People thought 3 year retarded babies would be pumping out web 2.0 applications in 6 hours and we'd all be swimming in rounded corner websites.
That being said, this bandwagon isn't any old bandwagon. It's a big one, with almost every major mobile phone manufacturer on board, and a lot of unknowns too. When Qua Gong Jing Plastix and Paperclip, Inc. can pump out a half-decent handset thanks to the fact that it runs Android, you know you have a winning OS. Androids market proliferation and timeline is pretty insane. For the year that it's been out, it's pretty much dominating with no signs of slowing down whatsoever.
I love my android. Ditched my iphone for it last year, and havent looked back. - KeithLM, on 11/17/2009, -0/+3Android multi-tasks. And many Android phones have keyboards.
- fyanardi, on 11/17/2009, -0/+3More interesting comparison would be Maemo vs Android. What I like from Maemo is it is just a 'normal' Linux / Debian system. And with recent switch to Qt, there will be tons of high quality desktop application ported to Maemo (one recent proof is KOffice based document viewer for Maemo)
- KeithLM, on 11/17/2009, -1/+4But didn't Symbian have over 70% of the market a few years ago? Seems like a big hit.
I used to work on software for Symbian. The OS is ***** to develop for. I was so glad to get away from it. My friends that have stayed with that company are much happier developing for the iPhone and Android. The environment, tools, libraries, etc., are all much better developed.
Furthermore Nokia is just now opening up Symbian. It's been around for years, but until Nokia bought up control and decided to open it things were different. And because of that there wasn't much development for it in the past. Now people are going to the more open systems with phones that have better capabilities and better tools. - Stewballs2111, on 11/16/2009, -0/+3I'm still waiting for Sybians to be open source.
- jekamtor, on 11/17/2009, -1/+4When arguing something on the premise that you know more than someone else, it helps to be able to spell correctly and be able to perform basic arithmetic.
- Jerky1312, on 11/17/2009, -0/+3"the Sybian operating system..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybian - sean2390, on 11/16/2009, -0/+3Ok I mean S60 then :P
- SuperStromboli, on 11/17/2009, -0/+2Whoa, I first read that as, "Why is Google Android beating Sybian?" Biggggg difference.
- peterjmag, on 11/17/2009, -0/+2Check out the source code on that page. Pretty cool ASCII art.
Also, the site runs on Drupal, which is a plus in my book. - fipi, on 11/16/2009, -4/+6Gotta love these high-tech pundits. "Open source" does not mean a change to your release cycles, nor does it imply any obligation to release all of the code all of the time. It just means that if you ship a product, you ship the code, with it. It says nothing about when products get shipped, or even who gets to see the code in the absence of a product shipping. Read the GPL if you don't believe me ... like other FOSS licenses, it only kicks in when you ship.
Moreover, Android is not winning because it's open-source. That has almost nothing to do with it. It's only open-source because it's based on open-source code, and because once you have a handset in hand, you can hack the code for it and Google won't try too hard (if at all) to stop you. Unlike Apple, who energetically prevents such things - even though iPhone OS is based on FOSS, and even though as far as I can tell Apple is not legally in violation of the FOSS licenses on which it depends. See above: FOSS licenses only kick in when you ship, and even then they typically only have obligations with respect to showing people the code, NOT making it easy to actually do anything useful with any changes you make to said code.
Android is winning not because it's open-source, but because it doesn't suck donkey balls and puke toxic garbage on the user while squeezing his testicles. All of which Symbian is responsible for, in a metaphorical sense. It's a ***** platform. Try viewing a webpage on it, or navigating its UI, and compare that experience to either iPhone OS or Android, if you don't believe me. Android is *easy to use* and remarkably well engineered (though not as much as iPhone OS, in some departments), which simply cannot be said for Symbian. And I doubt it has as much to do with legacy code as it has to do with legacy philosophy. Google and its partners, much like Apple, expend an inordinate amount of effort on making Android have all of the user experience management that would be found on a serious desktop OS. I just don't think Nokia has woken yet and realized that having shiny plastic with good hardware and flashy hinges that open the phone in new and creative ways does not constitute a phone that people are going to want to buy, once they realize that Android and iPhone can, actually, be practically used for more than just placing calls and sending texts. - wpf999, on 11/17/2009, -1/+3I've got a N95 GB. Thought it was the bees knees when I bought it. Then I played with a few Android phones. I'm afraid Symbian sucks big-time in comparison with Android.
- candorny, on 11/17/2009, -2/+4Except you are delusonal, and laughably (and pathetically so) Stop 100 people on hte street and ask them what Google products/services they use.
WELL over 900 of them will say "search" and NOTHING else. - 350Zed, on 11/17/2009, -2/+43 simple reasons...
1. Marketing
2. Marketing
3. Marketing
Symbian who? - coheedcollapse, on 11/17/2009, -0/+2Yeah, madeingermany, same here. I couldn't care less if it's Google or not, I bought it because the software was impressive and it was the only really nice phone on T-mobile, who I was going with due to their lower costs.
- SuperStromboli, on 11/17/2009, -0/+2Hi, welcome to Digg.
/s - DulcetTone, on 11/17/2009, -1/+3Your Android phone will have an app to catalog your Betamax library.
- DulcetTone, on 11/17/2009, -0/+2In 10 years, you'll see why
- Hellicus, on 11/17/2009, -2/+4Way to pull those numbers out of your arse...
- MrChunks, on 11/17/2009, -0/+2@Hellius,
No it's not. -
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