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- SteelFrog, on 10/12/2007, -5/+53That's exactly the kind of rant they're Google-ing for.
- bmatherlyjr, on 10/12/2007, -6/+53This is absolutely moronic. Potential employers in all my years of "applying for a job" never once asked me "So when you are not here at work, what do you do in your spare time?" had they asked me such an irrelevant question, I would have been completely honest and said "Well I like to drink alcohol until I am in a state of complete unconsciousness, wake up the next morning usually at the county dunk tank, post my fine and go back home... why what do you like to do?" The point is if it was never a concern before, why should it be a concern now just because technology makes it easier for these nosey bastards to take a peek in to my life. I mean seriously. Get a life of your own, and stop worrying about what I do with mine. I am off the clock, and I am a big boy I can take care of myself F-U-very much.
- bat-21, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31When I was 10 years old, my dad (a now-retired government employee) told me, "Never write down or say out loud anything you wouldn't want to see on the front page of the newspaper." At the time, I thought that was one of the craziest things I ever heard. Not anymore.
- actionscripted, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2117 / F / CA ... looking for fun, or maybe more. ;)
- allaboutdatiki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20Multiple online personas are even better.
- actionscripted, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Personal life != professional life.
If your employer doesn't understand this, you need to find a new job. If I go out on a weekend, blow twenty lines of coke, crash my car, and blog about it my employer won't care -- as long as I'm still capable of performing my duties at work.
Why would you willfully work somewhere that spies on their employees' internet or non-work activities? - fcekuahd, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15@actionscripted, you clearly don't know what employers are looking for.
"Personal life != professional life" Your personal life has a great deal of impact on your professional life. An employer will want to know as much as he can about your personal life to determine if you're going to be a good fit for the company, whether you have a problem with authority, and whether you're going to be a stable, long-term employee. We may not be allowed to ask questions like "how old are you" or "are you married", but we sure want to know the answers.
"If I go out on a weekend, blow twenty lines of coke, crash my car, and blog about it my employer won't care -- as long as I'm still capable of performing my duties at work." If you blow twenty lines of coke and crash your car, you're NOT going to be capable of performing your duties at work. If I knew one of my employees was using illegal drugs, I'd let him go.
"Why would you willfully work somewhere that spies on their employees' internet or non-work activities?" Background checks are a common requirement for many types of employment. In my view, a Google search is less intrusive than a background check because it's all information that you have voluntarily published. - fober, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I don't think I've ever been myself on the internet.
- robdazomba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I'm surprised at how naive so many of you seem. Do you really not cover your tracks with online stuff? Seems a no-brainer.
I don't as a rule use any real information about myself, including my name or any personal identifying info online. I have a few accounts set up with "respectable" sites like Linked-In where I use real info but none of it links to any of my more casual online activities so I never have to worry about it. Maybe I'm just ahead of the curve, but it occurred to me many, many years ago that this sort of personal info mining thing could be done by third parties with Google and I decided to put up a wall between my online life and the real.
I highly suggest the same for many of you. You don't even have to supply false info most of the time. Most sites let you register with a minimal of valid info and most sites let you keep that stuff private. It's pretty easy to do this. - Darkhacker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Well it depends on the job. If you are going to be an "actor" staring in underwater porn is an advantage. Better than having a crap job like doing anal porn.
- joestump, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I know someone who works in HR (not at Digg) who was looking over a resume when she ran across a term she didn't know (I forget it now) so she Googled it and found that it was the term for, basically, underwater pornography. So, here you have a guy willingly putting on his resume that he's into underwater porn (he'd been an "actor" in a few of the movies to boot).
I agree with fcekuahd that your personal life directly affects your professional life and vice versus. - Userfaulty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@bmatherlyjr
Potential employers in all my years of "applying for a job" never once asked me "So when you are not here at work, what do you do in your spare time?"
I actually did about 5 months ago. I said "Well I play computer games, play disc golf, and sometimes go downtown with friends." At which point he turned to his co-interviewer with a ***** eating grin on his face. I knew from the start this interview was going nowhere so I just acted calmly and honestly. This guy was a pompous prick and also the son of the owner. Even if they offered me the job I would have refused cause theres no way in hell I would work for some one like that. I even called my friend that I had told about the job to warn him of this guy and afterwards he said the same thing.
Honestly, If you wanted to find out what I want you to know about me all you have to do is search for my user name since I am the only person in the world with it and my real name is not exceptionally common. - pogfreak, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Hey future employers: I wipe my ass with my bare hand
- bgoodwyn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Employers don't ask that because they don't want to be sued because they asked a question they are not allowed to make a hiring decision based upon. But, if they find some dirt on you using Google, then they can find another reason to hire someone else.
I wonder when the first case will occur where an employer's computer is searched resulting in a Google search on a prospective hire being used in court to demonstrate that the candidate was not hired for "the wrong" reasons? Or has it already happened? - sshack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5So now, how do we delete our digg accounts and comments?
- eleventybillion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm a dedicated, hardworking go-getter with management potential and the drive to accomplish greatness!!!
1. I can divide by zero, and stop time with my mind.
2. I have never been late for anything in my life, and have always brought a gift.
3. I keep my shoes shined to a high polish that would bring a weepy tear of joy to even the staunchest of Marines.
4. I discovered a 25th hour that I use to generate pure profit!
5. I am indestructible and can type 230 GWAM.
6. I am familiar with computer applications! - CourtesyFlush, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Oh crap.
I shouldn't have used my real name.
"We've been watching you, Mr. Flush....." - Vision2098, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6^^ bat-21 needs more diggs ^^
That's some incredible insight from your father, there. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm too lazy to deal with multiple personalities....
I don't think it matters what you do outside of work unless your representing the company in some way. If you do your job and it doesn't affect your work it shouldn't matter what the hell you do in your private life. - rstarr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I've always been myself.
Yep, good ol' John Smith from Springfield.
That guy must have such a hard time getting a job.
There has got to be one black sheep John Smith screwing it up for the rest of them. - d03boy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5underwater anal porn..?
- grimjestor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4...or, even better-- multiple personalities. that way, if you don't have a computer, you are still safe (and always entertained)...
- scotticus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They ask about what you do in your spare time because they have to work with you. What you do for fun can speak about the type of person you are and how conversational you are. Many even suggest that you put your hobbies/interests on your CV/resume. I was never asked this, but it seems like a reasonable question to me.
- SecondGuesser, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4As the interviewee, you're not required to do anything. We can debate the merits of the law and our preferences therein, but the point is that you're there on your own volition. If you don't like anything going on, you have the right to up and leave - no question. You've now made the employer's decision for him and everybody wins. Ironically it'll be considered rude since you're saving the interviewer's precious time.
However, I will tell all you rebellious types that you better hope the economy trucks along with 5% or so unemployment. A major swing in the job market could cause you to renounce your attitudes.
Am I the only one who thinks a good job is a rare thing and worth some sacrifices? I'd straighten up for a good job, at least on the front. - RatTrap, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Heres one way to fix it dont use your real name on the internet and dont post pics of your self on the internet.
- BrainInAJar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've vanity googled before, just to make sure
I'm pretty proud to say that despite being on the internet for almost 15 years, my real name doesn't show up once - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Funny, all of my employers have asked me that, even when working retail in high school and college, and I've only been in the "professional" work force for 5 years. What do you do that employers don't care what kind of person you are, or that you have a decent balance of personal (social) and work life?
- kd1s, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My name is my name. I don't use it on much but nntp and even there I play nicely in technical groups, cooking groups, local groups, etc.
As to blogs, Myspace, etc. it's all assumed names. I'm squeaky clean when you google me. - arbulus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I never have, nor would I ever use my real name on the net. I also try very hard to make sure any account that I have can't be traced back to something that could be connected to my real name. It just makes sense.
- GerbilOfCarnage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Dirty Coppers - They'll never catch me!
- Yorn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'll echo the sentiments here about working for someone that actually cares what you do in your spare time. However I will say this: If you're to stupid/lazy to clean up your beer and "other" bong pictures up, then what does that say about your work ethic?
- WiseWeasel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And for heaven's sake, keep off of Myspace, or use a pseudonym and never use it to communicate with people who you know in real life... If you talk to real life friends on myspace, you are guaranteed to be leaving a bunch of private information about yourself in the public domain. Identity management should be a required high school course, along with credit management...
- news234, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1http://thedvdvideo.com/
IN this site you can download Over 1000 Full-Length Movies Available Instantly! - superzorn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Good. I've heard about this month ago, but I can't remember where exactly. http://travelsphere.blogspot.com
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Of course, one could just keep one's stupid antics to one's self.
- Wytefang, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2No offense but then she's 1. not much of a recruiter, along with her co-workers, and 2. in violation of OFCCP regulations. What company did she work for again?
- bmatherlyjr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh but these are the same people (Those who use Google to base their employment decision) "It's just the Internet, it's not like real life"; so which is it.
Is it a) everything you Google up is the gospel and you alienate yourself from highly qualified individuals or b) is it in fact just the Internet that, just the Internet.
I am sorry I come from the ol' school; you can't have it both ways. - tech42er, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's fun to have a multifaceted personality!
- giraldus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1both of them?
- Wytefang, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2As a corporate recruiter, I can safely say that these kinds of articles are the worst kind of internet baloney. Call them the 'urban legends of the HR world', if you will. No reputable recruiter that I've ever known would ever use the Internet as any kind of source for either background investigations OR for a character reference. The main reason is that it would be a violation of OFCCP regulations, for one, and secondly, and perhaps more importantly, it's just too difficult to verify the specifics of anything you might see on the Internet as being accurate. These kinds of articles are basically the equivalent of the Nigerian bank spam or form letters. Let 'em die, they're totally inaccurate and stupid.
- tech42er, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm worried about the stuff my fans create. I do music as a hobby but I'm worried it may come back to bite me.
- arbulus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I don't think that your personal life has anything to do with your professional life, nor should it. If I want to spend my weekends making bukkake films and sitting in a puddle of my own feces, why does it really matter if on Monday morning I show up clean, sober and polite and do a good job at what I do? It doesn't matter, nor should it, and it really pisses me off when companies try to impose themselves on their employees lives. It's none of anyone else's business what I do, and especially not my employers.
- juliocgrajales, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I totally agree with the article but I think that is a place in time that does not exist fully right now but we definitely moving towards that... thats why everyone now who are online and have the privelege of being online to learn a lot about computers because in future years you will be the pioneers of new technology and business, understanding the basic digg like websites will help you evolve to the inevitable, well ofcourse I would be saying the same thing if I lived in a cave and I am a club salesmen, whatever that means
- d03boy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1You are not required to answer any question they ask. They are testing you when they ask this stuff. Just say "non-work related things" or whatever. If they stick you in a meeting with a client of theirs are they going to want you to spread all your goody weekend info to them? They don't want to be embarrassed by you which is why they test you with those questions. At least that's how it normally is.
Another thing you could try is asking them what they do with their free time instead of answering their question. It might seem a little rude.. but.. it's none of their business. - dotspace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0My wife is an senior-level IT recruiter for one of the top IT networking companies. They Google prospective candidates all the time. And what they find can influence their hiring decisions.
- scut, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2The fact is...in 10 years there will be such a huge need for educated candidates in this country, they won't care if you have a video blog that shows you dancing around naked with a lamp on your head. There aren't nearly enough of us to replace all the jobs that the baby boomers are leaving in their retirement wake. This issue is already starting to affect federal and state agencies big time. Go out and party on Garth...
- megalopata, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Doubtful info... I was waiting for this for a very long time...
- rjnagle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1unless you're really famous, it's pretty easy to control your online reputation.
Just create a blog with occasional updates full of personal but inoffensive content.
I'm a fulltime writer and have thousands of posts online. However, I'm not too worried. I created a search friendly home page with links to my general posts. A determined person might find some crazy thing I said on the web, but the casual searcher is just not going to find anything.
(I should say I write some things under a pseudonym which I don't want to have associated with my name; but I almost think that if I used my real name it would be easy to overlook.
A random observation. I just googled my name and found 99 search results. As a point of fact, I have about 10,000 webpages with my name on it--which were yes, written by me. About 2500 blog posts, plus about 1000 mirrors (thanks blog spam!), about 3000 comments on people's blogs and about 5000 newsgroup/mailing list posts.
Previously google used to list everything under search results. Now they are pickier, while giving you the option to view similar search results. curiously my static content gets higher ranking than my blog content which is the majority of my writing. - ssh500, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0And for heaven's sake, keep off of Myspace, or use a pseudonym and never use it to communicate with people who you know in real life... If you talk to real life friends on myspace, you are guaranteed to be leaving a bunch of private information about yourself in the public domain. Identity management should be a required high school course, along with credit management... http://www.gwafi.com/news.html http://www.gwafi.com/story.html
- bmatherlyjr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1THANK YOU!
Which reminds me I need to hurry up and get started creating a bunch of bogus, and potentially career damaging profiles on MySpace to help eliminate some of my competitors. *fires up the ol' Photoshop.. Wait... Scratch that... fires up the ol' Paint.NET*. After all, the Internet is obviously the gospel. -
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