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- fkr3, on 01/03/2008, -5/+33It's not your data, it's their data. It's also their business. Market leader or not it's in no [whatever] site's interest to share enough of their data (aka, all of your data) to make their own services redundant.
- superpixel, on 01/03/2008, -3/+24of course not! why would they? It would be nice, to be sure, but your average FB user likely has no clue about any of this anyway. Until they try to go elsewhere, naturally.
- JasonCox, on 01/03/2008, -2/+17And I care why? If you sign up on one of my forums I don't let you transfer your posts to another website. If Google indexes your site it doesn't let you move those search results to Live or Ask. Why should Facebook?
- amadeusdemarzi, on 01/03/2008, -1/+15Zuckerberg jut got totally pwnt in that article:
"Facebook won't offer you open access to your data for one simple reason; if they did, they couldn't compete. They aren't innovative, they aren't the first mover, and they don't have a stable of hot talent designing any "next generation" of the social web. Facebook is simply a company that was in the right place at the right time, with a lucky strategy which happened to work. Zuckerberg may be bright, but he isn't a visionary; he's a follower." - Ryosen, on 01/03/2008, -0/+11You can clear out all of your information. After that, all that will remain is your name. That's not going to do anyone a lot of good.
- DavidHorn, on 01/03/2008, -1/+12Presumably, if they ever open an office in the UK the Data Protection Act will force them to turn over any information they hold on me at my request.
- dognose, on 01/03/2008, -0/+10heh, you've already fallen for digg. And here you are contributing to the discussion. Congrats.
- timewarp424, on 01/03/2008, -0/+10I prefer to meet my friends in person, but people are weird now a days. If you want to download your friends in a spreadsheet, who am i to judge?
- radink360, on 01/03/2008, -4/+13who cares, facebook is lame.
- StealthMonkey, on 01/03/2008, -2/+11There are other social networking sites?
- ToastPop, on 04/17/2009, -4/+13Yeah, it sure is a pain! I wish I could take all my Facebook data to some other wannabe social network where none of my friends visit.
- mykotron, on 01/03/2008, -1/+10Maybe not but anyone can create an exporter for Facebook to export your details in a format that could be imported into another website, program etc.. I recently downloaded all my contacts birthdays into my outlook calender through a facebook application.
- form3hide, on 01/03/2008, -1/+9...are you taking pictures of yourself in homosexual acts?
- Firehed, on 01/03/2008, -1/+9I'm pretty sure that's what MySpace's early adopters were saying in reference to Facebook.
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -1/+8Gee, I wonder why facebook isn't going to join OpenSocial... could it be because Google created it to COMPETE against facebook?? hmmmmmmmmmmmm
PS - This isn't exactly the end of the world you know, not being able to have the data you put in facebook in any format you wish... don't know about you, but my life isn't based around what I put on a social networking site - saleem, on 01/03/2008, -2/+9Mmmm viscous
- thosemoose, on 04/17/2008, -0/+7that is somewhat true. In order to fully delete your account you have to: 1) delete every single friend you have. 2) every wall post on your wall, and 3) every bit of information on your profile (and remove yourself from any 'networks'.) Then and only then will the remove your account. (you've got to email support and tell them you've done all this, at that point they'll remove you.
BTW it took me upwards of an hour to remove all the required information. - Firehed, on 01/03/2008, -0/+6You CAN delete your account, but you have to first remove every bit of data in your profile, all of your applications, wall posts, uploaded photos, defriend everyone, etc. IOW, it can be done, but it's too much of a tremendous pain in the ass.
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -0/+6FTA: "Facebook is simply a company that was in the right place at the right time, with a lucky strategy which happened to work. Zuckerberg may be bright, but he isn't a visionary; he's a follower."
I couldn't have said it better myself. - radiofrequency, on 01/03/2008, -1/+7At its core facebook is an evil company.
- naughtyboy, on 01/03/2008, -4/+9I'll never succumb to the evils of proprietary social networks such as Facebook. Never never never, I'm just waiting for an open source alternative to rise and shine, just like I wait for Linux to triumph over windows. Will it ever happen?
- captaindigger, on 01/03/2008, -6/+11Once your on Facebook you can't get out. You can "Disable" your account but you can never get out of Facebook your information will be on there forever. When some looks you up on Facebook they will find you whether your account is "Disabled" or not. It is a viscous circle they have people in. They find you whether you want to be there or not and then that person joins and someone finds them and so on.
- schavira, on 01/03/2008, -1/+6Yes but save ***** nobody is on them.
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -0/+5I was gonna ask him the same thing
- HypocriteDigg, on 01/03/2008, -1/+5F#%$ Facebook. I wouldn't be surprised if they are owned by News Corp. Have any of you tried deleting your account? Guess what, you can't! You can only 'deactivate' it.
- staeiou, on 01/03/2008, -1/+5Facebook is now mainstream. Mainstream things are not cool. It is as simple as that.
- Jexie, on 01/03/2008, -0/+4Being dugg down for suggesting 'buyer beware'...right! how dare you suggest people educate themselves about the rules and regulations of what they are using so we can make informed decisions! Didn't you know we all have to just shut up and consume?
- Corrosionx, on 01/03/2008, -1/+5Let's say in 1997 you wrote an inflammatory letter to the editor in your local paper.
What if your local paper makes all its archives available on the web and they are searchable with Google...
Did you ever think when you wrote that letter that anyone could find stuff about you by searching for your name in Google? Or that it could come back in that manner? - smackhero, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3the data you create through the personal social network you build on facebook should at least in some part belong to you to do with as you like. so if i wanted to save my facebook contacts into an address book on my PC, i should be able to do so freely. that is exactly the ideology that Google subscribes to with all of their online services, and it's really how all online social networks should be. it is _my data_ after all...
a large part of the concept of the semantic web relies on the use of open standards and the free exchange of information between different services/applications. that is the best way to fully take advantage of the interconnected nature of the web. this allows separate specialized networks to be maintained while simultaneously creating a global network of free-flowing information from which new emergent applications can arise.
facebook can either choose to embrace the data portability movement and evolve with the web in the direction it's already headed in, or they can try to lock users in by exploiting their current position as a market leader, though this would inevitably lead to their demise as the preeminent online social network. - MScrip, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3What's the big deal with "moving" your data to another social network? What data? It's a template! Type your name, upload a profile photo, and you're done. Then copy and paste your crappy favorite books, movies and TV show lists.
I was on Myspace first, then I got Facebook. Both my profiles are very sparse. I don't have data on them, other than photos. And it's not a big deal to upload my photos to each site. The main draw for either of those sites is the friends list. That's why you join a social network. I don't spend hours collecting favorite quotes, listing every movie and book I love.. etc. I just use Facebook and Myspace as an address book. With photos. - topace3000, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3Stopped reading at "internet socialite".
- DigiAngel, on 01/03/2008, -1/+4I'm still not convinced it's completely deleted. I have a feeling it's on their severs stored for easy theft/sale.
- KaivenTor, on 01/03/2008, -1/+4Did everyone suddenly forget about the API? You can get your data via the API with nigh-unlimited calls instead of screen scraping. Probably much easier too... And if FaceBook was owned by NewsCorp, the site would probably look as bad as MySpace and be run as well (AKA, barely at all) *Shudder*.
- iiTenaciousG, on 01/03/2008, -3/+6try to go elsewhere to do what?
- ishboo, on 01/03/2008, -2/+5Check out the almost identical article in PCMag this month. Never made me think of it before but it would be nice to download your friends into a spreadsheet.
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -1/+4The whole point is to collect info for the FBI CIA NSA DHS etc do the CIA give your data back?
- xero9, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3Sadly, I doubt most of Facebook users even consider, or care about this
- HonoredMule, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3Well, actually yes. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned and antiquated, but I consider the internet to just be a new medium for the same old data-leakage. No one can rationally expect that information they share or something they say to a stranger can never be discovered by others, whether its on paper, electronically stored, or possibly even if it's just in someone's memory (ram or brain). The how or why of that discovery process cannot necessarily be predicted, but you are ultimately responsible for everything you say and do, and secrecy is never assured.
- daridave, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3Yes, it is. From the rumors of stolen code to refusing a ridiculous amount of dollars for a buyout, I really do believe that they're not in it for the good reasons.
- xero9, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3Soooo, for someone like myself who has 0 wall posts, 1 picture, 1 network, and 4 friends, this should take around, a minute? :D
- MWeather, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3I find talking on the phone with 5 or 6 people in several time zones for hours a day gets costly.
- smackhero, on 01/03/2008, -1/+4that's the primary difference between microsoft's business philosophy and google's. google holds that it's ultimately the user's data and they can do as they like with it and take it with them wherever they like. one is reactionary, the other is progressive. from the look of things, the web is evolving in the direction of google, not microsoft.
from a very myopic standpoint, it might be in facebook's interest to lock users in and withhold their data from them, but as a long-term strategy it won't serve them well. their current strategy only works so long as you have a monopoly, but i don't expect facebook hold their lead forever. the web is ever-evolving, and you can either embrace the change or resist it. but companies that fail to adapt inevitably lose out to those that embrace change. - HonoredMule, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3I shall have to defer to your experience and expertise on that matter.
- XStatic, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3Perhaps OutSync?
http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=64 ...
OutSync is a free Windows application that syncs photos of your Facebook friends with matching contacts in Microsoft Outlook. It allows you to select which contacts are updated. So you can update all contacts at once or just a few at a time.
The main benefit of OutSync is for Windows Mobile users. Updated contacts are automatically synced with Windows Mobile devices by Exchange server or ActiveSync. Thus new and fun photos appear during calls and other places where contacts are used.
OutSync is compatible with Windows XP, Vista and Server 2003. It requires Outlook 2003 or 2007.
Visit the OutSync page on Facebook for discussions, reviews and more. - jgtg32a, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3Hey if I can't get my friends in spreadsheet form then how can I rank them?
- huadsu, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3Is this information true? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMWz3G_gPhU
- c0ldfusi0n, on 01/03/2008, -0/+2Wow that's a great idea. I'd really like to finally be able to refer to my friend as line numbers!
- HareBall, on 01/03/2008, -1/+3Ever hear of that new device called the TELEPHONE! If you really want to chat in real time it can't be beat.
- jhuebel, on 01/03/2008, -0/+2Facebook already is selling your data, in a way. Every time you authorize another Facebook app to access your profile information, you've given away your information to another 3rd party. You give up a little bit more of your privacy every time...
- topace3000, on 01/03/2008, -0/+2I'm glad I'm not your friend.
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