What is Digg?157 Comments
- tropican8, on 11/26/2007, -3/+81"Reddit has the problem that despite it providing perhaps the biggest difference in terms of the content and links provided, it appears to be beholden to the political campaigns of Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich."
Yeah, on Digg you never hear about those guys. - inactive, on 11/26/2007, -8/+73foobarf00: I'd say the main advantage is that the founders actually give a damn about user experience. Unfortunately, Digg is too big to attend to the needs and wants of the users (Can we say pics section? Broken comments? Spam shouts?). There's already a forum that is not associated with Mixx where users collaborate and suggest ideas, and the founders actually check in daily and listen. It would really be nice if the same thing happened on Digg.
Digg still is where most of my favorite news is, but if more people go to Mixx in the upcoming months and contribute heavily, I'd say Digg has much to worry about. I think Kevin has thought that nobody could burst his bubble, but maybe it will happen one day. :) Perhaps it's about time that Jay and Kevin start paying attention to what people say and address these concerns--for real. - Crosshare, on 11/26/2007, -3/+52You're not in the Digg Circle Jerk, that's why.
- Daiken, on 11/26/2007, -1/+41As much as I love Digg, there are a lot of small groups trying to control what gets to the front page and telling people what to think, and it's really starting to piss me off. Often we read stories about how the cops taze some dude, and everyone bashes cops. We never get the side of the story where the cop saw the guy reach into his jacket or something like that. There are groups out there to post every human rights violation that takes place in certain Muslim countries, but ignores ones in our own home. There are political parties trying to get everyone to recognize their candidate by showing small clips of him, where as the rest of the debate and what he/she said is largely ignored.
Essentially what's happened is that groups of people have taken the power away from the individual, and it now belongs to those who have the most friends or are members of groups that digg each other up. These same people also often present biased articles and descriptions trying to tell everyone how to think, and many will go as far as to spamming the comments section of their own posts. To be honest, I preferred Digg when it wasn't as popular because people back then weren't trying to manipulate the visitors of the site. Digg is starting to become a victim of its own success, and I'm glad there are a few other sites out there offering decent alternatives. - meshman, on 11/26/2007, -16/+47WHY DIGG SUCKS:
"Your session has expired, please refresh the page before commenting."
***** OFF!!!!!!!! (sorry, can only take so much of this crapola. Delete the entire site and start over with programmers that know how to freaking program) - spect3r, on 11/26/2007, -3/+31http://www.mixx.com/
Server seems to be down. (lol?) - megabit, on 11/26/2007, -0/+26digg effect? :)
- msaleem, on 11/26/2007, -20/+45Why Digg is still the best: "MrBabyMan".
- geekchic, on 11/26/2007, -4/+27From the article:
"Reddit has the problem that despite it providing perhaps the biggest difference in terms of the content and links provided, it appears to be beholden to the political campaigns of Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich."
...you mean Reddit has even more Ron Paul spammers than Digg? Blimey :( - foobarf00, on 11/26/2007, -2/+24For any Digg users using Mixx, what are their main advantages compared to Digg besides the ads?
- sockpuppets, on 11/26/2007, -2/+23The same 12 year olds inhabiting this place will surely infest that one as well.
- jorkk, on 11/26/2007, -4/+24we are also getting an image section in september 07
lets see mixx do that - kettlehead, on 11/26/2007, -1/+21Mixx got Dugg. XD;
- MikeonTV, on 11/26/2007, -2/+21That'll get you one week of free Diggs I'm sure.
- wispygalaxy, on 11/26/2007, -5/+23I believe that Digg is better due to the fact that there is a greater variety of stories on it. On Mixx, I see stories about people I couldn't care less about. There is more people on Digg, so I get to read about different viewpoints.
- adrian67, on 11/26/2007, -2/+18I went over to Mixx because I just wasn't having any luck getting Diggs to my articles here, but in my opinion, Mixx just doesn't seem to live up to what Digg has to offer. I still don't get many Diggs to my articles, I wish I knew what the secret was, but it looks like I'm here to stay. Whether I get Diggs or not, this site will take a lot of beating.
- baalzebub, on 11/26/2007, -1/+17this is the first i heard of Mixx, one thing for sure they better get a bigger/faster internet connection & server if they want to compete with Digg because it is not loading in my browser, D.O.A.,...
- MrBabyMan, on 11/26/2007, -4/+20Likewise, Mu! Both you and all my Digger peeps.
- statiktv, on 11/26/2007, -4/+18ha! mixx.com is down. pwnd.
- tazamore, on 11/26/2007, -1/+14Problems with Digg:
Site design: Click to view more comments. Lame. Lame. Lame.
Mob tyranny: Comment modding based on opinion rather than topic relevence. Down modding should be reserved for spammers and trolls not just anyone you disagree with.
Staff tyranny: Digg bans a user for posting fox news porn while at the same time allowing Digg advertisers like hair club to post ads showing even more skin. - Daiken, on 11/26/2007, -0/+12Agreed, I think the average age of Diggers has dropped 10 years in the past year the site has been running.
- Kronos6948, on 11/26/2007, -0/+11FTA:
"One often heard criticism of Digg is that the headlines can only be understood by “insiders,” those that know tech."
I guess when you see a headline that says "Work getting you down? Try vodka in a stapler!" it's just too technical for people to understand. - geminitojanus, on 11/26/2007, -0/+11"and only the best comes to the top."
Absolute unadulterated *****. The "top" of Digg tends to be the things a 12 year old would find funny, "PICS", stories filled to the brim with technical inaccuracies, blogspam, etc. Whatever comes to the top is purely guided by who submits it, who diggs it and when, as carefully crafted by Digg's popularity filter/algorithm.
That all in itself is Digg's true flaw. They made some attempts at fixing it (by removing the "top users" list and thusly stopping people from just blitzing to emit stories just to get to the top of the list), but they were not enough (especially not when coupled with "friends" aka Circle-jerk digging, and "shouts" aka free spam for everyone by default!).
Digg was created as a "better slashdot" but ended up becoming a "worse Fark". - idiggxbox, on 11/26/2007, -0/+10Looks like Mixx was killed by the Digg effect. I personally have tried to launch several of these Digg style sites and have found that in general they do not take off. It's hard to move people from something they are used to ie... Digg, its similar to all the people that refused to move from AOL even though it was obviously an inferior service. People just don't generally like better versions of something that already exists they look for the next "new" thing. Sad...but true.
- sovereign3, on 11/26/2007, -0/+10I'm trying to give it a look, but their site's a little slow right now. Ironic that Digg is being used to give publicity to a competitor.
- inactive, on 11/26/2007, -2/+11Aww Mu, I never had you down as a sycophant!
- g3ra1d0, on 11/26/2007, -2/+11i think i have a brain tumor after looking at reddit.
- inactive, on 11/26/2007, -1/+9Actually, if you've taken any notice of my contributions, I'm one of Digg's top submitters. You know why? Because I actively engage in dialogue and vote on the stories *before* they hit the front page. I also read TechCrunch and considered submitting this myself, but MrBabyMan beat me to it.
- captaindigger, on 11/26/2007, -1/+9Finally we have found Diggs secret. Let the competition get to the front page then DNS the crap out of them.
- TehDoctor, on 11/26/2007, -1/+9Yeah, Kevin and/or whoever else does the coding aren't as 1337 as everyone thought, and lazy as all hell. My CPU usage spikes when I touch anything on a Digg page now, and it's been months since they said they would fix the comments (and add a pics section)
- Alpione, on 11/26/2007, -1/+8What's the user base like? If it's a little more mature and politically centered, I'm there...
- spidoman, on 11/26/2007, -0/+7Couldn't have possibly said it better myself.
- Royal0, on 11/26/2007, -2/+9How can Digg be the best with all the yellow journalism going around, aswell as the fanboys and a heavy liberal population. I can't even say something about republicans without being buried.
- signal15, on 11/26/2007, -1/+8Digg's ad service is slow and holds up loading of the entire page. It's extremely annoying. When they were using Google Adsense, everything was fine, but now it sucks.
- lead2thehead, on 11/26/2007, -0/+7Don't you mean DoS?
- Icupnimpn2, on 11/26/2007, -0/+6This is all a bit like the PC vs Mac debate. Whether or not someone comes up with a slicker experience, as long as the majority of people use Digg, the majority of people will use Digg. I think a true competitor would have to be radically different and not just slightly evolved in order to really draw away from Digg. For an example, look at what Digg did to Slashdot.
- Chazzer3, on 11/26/2007, -3/+9Furthermore, it's been around, people have got used to it, people have built networks within it. And people quite often, and unsurprisingly, stick to what they know. That's why I will stay on Digg, I like the design, simplicity, and friends I have on it :-)
Charlie - - tempusrob, on 11/26/2007, -2/+8YOU'RE
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*YOU'RE* USING "YOUR" WRONG.
For *****'s sake, why is even the most basic grammar so goddamn hard for people to grasp? - RobbieS, on 11/26/2007, -2/+8Variety like Apple rules, MS drools, go Ron Paul, and whatever else makes it.
- inactive, on 11/26/2007, -1/+6the name digg has a big advantage too because that's exactly what we're doing, the concept of digg and bury is very simple and quite fun i must say
- staticblake, on 11/26/2007, -2/+7The site is called mixx.com? Give me a ***** break...you want to get in the social news arena? Fine. Just be a little more creative when picking a name. Was *****.com taken?
- spidoman, on 11/26/2007, -1/+6Why digg is still the worst: MrBabyMan's strategy of just spam submissions actually works.
- inactive, on 11/26/2007, -1/+6wow no kidding the goggles they do nothing
- Toshibi, on 11/26/2007, -1/+6msaleem and MrBabyMan et al. I make it a point to bury anything of theirs that I happen to spot or look for alternatives and digg them.
- Loonacy, on 11/26/2007, -2/+7That's a feature, not a bug. Digg knows when you're making a comment you would regret later, and it refuses to post it.
- Bdog2g2, on 11/27/2007, -0/+4"Perhaps the millions of uniques and thousands of daily active users are proof?"
And those appeared over night right?
Digg is 3 years old, so it has a leg up.
So what would you call Google?
-Altavista-clone
-Webspider-clone
-Exicite-clone
Just because you're first doesn't mean you'll stay first.
"Digg doesn't pay top users, it doesn't scout out content contributors, and it doesn't try to influence the opinion of the community"
Neither do other competitors (except for Propeller). - Tantrum, on 11/26/2007, -4/+8I'm a loyalist. Once i find a site i like, i stick with it until they do something to make me leave. I'm happy here on Digg.
- plurk, on 11/26/2007, -0/+4Why should I care about *****? What has ***** ever done for me? And why the hell should I use good grammar for *****'s sake? Why not my sake ... or the sake of someone important?
- nichenet, on 11/26/2007, -3/+7I agree. Digg's strength, as the article suggests, is with its numbers. There's a better variety on Digg, and only the best comes to the top.
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