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- jakethecake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22http://blogs.cio.com/system/files?file=Internet_map_labels_0.pdf High resolution version in a pdf file. [1108KB]
- jakethecake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21http://www.level3.com/userimages/dotcom/images/maps/darkfiber_map.gif level3 inc. dark fiber map
- saleens281, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10They do. That map is old. Alter-net/uu-net/mci is all Verizon now. There's many more I'm sure were bought up by MCI but those are the major ones off the top of my head.
- mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Odd, verizon sure acts like they own a lot..
- jakethecake, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Duopoly. Duo = Two.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duopoly - moridin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I work on a bunch of these routers and this map definitely puts things into perspective.
Thanks for the link.
+digg - praxcelis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8The fascinating part in all this is seeing the world not in terms of physical geography but in terms of data relationships. So on the Level3 backbone Seattle is closer to, say, Boston than to LA.
A realtime representation of this (aside from consuming resources at an alarming rate) would make for a most interesting image.
EDIT ADD: And yes, I used "world" when the map is primarily concerned with North American pipes. Before anyone decides to mod down for geocentrism, it was merely a turn of phrase, nothing more. - Godric, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Anyone have a map of all the dark fiber out there?
- rodball, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I definitely digg this, but for me these maps became incomprehensible soon after this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:IntFeb82.jpg - merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It's a blog, but it's not just any blog. It's a real publisher (Ziff Davis) that happens to be using blog software to publish some of their content.
It's not like it's some random jackass's LiveJournal, linked to so he can get more ad revenue. - chembro84, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Haven't you heard? Europe doesn't have the internet!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Who gives a *****, just call it a multiopoly.
From a consumer standpoint, if you live in their "not a monopoly" zone, then to you, they are a monopoly. This is how they get away with all the ***** fees, and substandard customer service - there is no competition where a lot of people live.
So, please, continue to discuss the definition of the word "monopoly" while consumers are getting screwed left and right. Then you can be just like our government.
And remember, taxpayer dollars BUILT this network - it was not built by private venture capitol. Its time we as taxpayers started charging these telcoms for the priviledge of accessing it. - JHawk24821, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Al Gore made this map.
- rvidal, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I'd call it more a oligopoly because although there are more than 1, it is still an imperfect competition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligopoly - spect3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Its the Znet Blog; it's really just a tech site.
Interesting read. - Ahnteis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6What's the color for the portion the taxpayers have paid for?
- ZombieFlanders, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4How do you interpret the different shapes for Canadian and United States services? To me, the U.S. servers are very tree branch-like, and the Canadian servers mostly spoke out like sprites. What's that about?
I think it may have something to do with ownership of content, or control of services. Does the Canadian gov't own the internet there or something? What if the computer in the middle of the green sprite breaks? - Quarks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Damn, then this Digg site i'm using right now must be a figment of my imagination then.
- mikeazorin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Although this is linking to a blog, this is really wicked. It's not a map of the world, it's purely virtual.
- headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Jesus that's big and complex. I guess ARPANET accomplished it's goal: You could drop 5 nukes in N. America, and every computer not destroyed will still be able to communicate with each other.
- TheD, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I do. And your rent is due!
- Quarks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Cool, but i'd like to see a map for the whole world (or at least one of europe).
- sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I think you missed the word "candidates".
- Raldikuk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I believe the term you're looking for is "collusion"
- saleens281, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Then he either mislabled routers, or (more likely) Verizon just hasn't changed their naming convention for various reasons, the most likely being it would be a complete headache/cluster@#!$. Regardless of all of that, Verizon owns a huge chunk of the backbones.
- funkytaco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I remember when working with Genuity (a CLEC of Verizon, which is ironic, since they're supposed to be a competitor) they had a lot of IP space. If you do your research. Genuity was BBN and they were a backbone for the ARPANET. So even if AT&T has the bigger chunk now, Verizon has a big chunk of the original Internet.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Verizon is going to pwn even more with FIOS. The cable companies are sitting around on their asses doing nothing. Except extorting users.
- Godric, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thanks.
- darthrsg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1that is more a function of TCP/IP.
- idiggit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Gee. This takes ages to draw. Why did they not pucklished it in png instead?
No digg - rhettnyedotorg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Also: a map of the heaviest distribution of pron, and the biggest pron distributors.
- burningmonk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Makes me think of Gibson style cyberspace, travelling along the lines from the Fusion Authority's nodes to...where ever.
- CrackHappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1jake, isn't that just a map of Level 3 dark fiber? That's what I thought it meant, as I know there is a lot more dark fiber out there than that...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Verizon may have bought them, but the map is not old. Data was collected on March 8th.
- ViperDaimao, on 10/12/2007, -10/+11while AT&T and Verizon have the biggest piece, they don't dominate enough to be considered monopolist candidates.
Of course they dont, there's two of them. Mono-polist. Mono = One. - jdheller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think this nuclear survival bit is a myth. I believe I heard this in "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" and also may have been mentioned on one of the Security Now podcasts. Does anyone have a source to back this up one way or another?
- CrackHappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You actually got a laugh out of me... awesome link.
- stubby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You know absolutely nothing about cable companies don't you?
I live in South Dakota and even here I can name at least 4 cable companies that are rolling out fiber to the premises and three of those are independently owned by small town telcos. - aliensoldier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think the correct name for this is "cartel"
- kashi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3look at it everybody is a fuc*** linguist now
- stubby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I prefer to go straight to the original article and blog post.
http://blogs.cio.com/node/209 - ANorton, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Where is Internet 2 in this picture??
- audi100quattro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2The internet 2 map... if you're at a university, you should look into using it.
http://loadrunner.uits.iu.edu/weathermaps/abilene/
http://members.internet2.edu/university/universities.cfm
I wish all of these maps somehow showed the ring topology that most Tier1 isp's use for enormous redundancy and failover when it comes to providing bandwidth. The system is somewhat overbuilt, considering the protocol is TCP/IP and it can't realistically be filtered or blocked. Gotta love it... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I can see my house!
- devinbunker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Although it is important to make sure the Internet backbones aren't owned by a single company, I don't think it is the key problem with Verizon, AT&T, Qwest, etc... What I am more concerned about is who owns the lines connecting homes and businesses. That is where they can exert monopolistic control, and that is therefore where they'll put in their filtering. Who cares what backbone is used? All that matters now is whose local loop is used.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1God I can only hope Ron Wyden can get Internet2 shut off. Everyone deserves equal access! No two-tier system! Traffic neutral networks! Please dear and holy Senator sir help us all be equally slow on the Internet. It's the only fair way.
- MephistoX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I always loved looking at these internet maps.
Pretty cool to see how the intarweb is made up. - betona, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2That map makes my head asplode.
- linuxN8, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0i'd love to see someone hook this up with tracert
+digg - jus1haz2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1^ But is is mono meaning one
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