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- elbowman, on 03/06/2008, -4/+253Does this surprise anyone? It's no wonder they want full retroactive immunity for phone companies. The phone companies are breaching every previous federal statute about client privacy.
- sockpuppets, on 03/06/2008, -5/+115How very Third Reich of you.
- RealmDown, on 03/06/2008, -8/+114Heh. he said "High-speed backdoor"
- MonsterChaOS, on 03/06/2008, -4/+66I hope some bastard gets stuck listening to 2 tweens stuck in the "No, I love you more" loop!
- inactive, on 03/06/2008, -3/+56If you have nothing to hide, then let me see all your financial records, web browsing cache, and anything else I can get my hands on. Audio of your phone calls, all your emails. You don't mind if they read them or listen, so why can't I? I bet I find something that seems to incriminate or implicate you into something fishy. Just by circumstance. I hope you are the last to be taken away.
- jarogers, on 03/06/2008, -1/+51The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
You don't need to be a lawyer to understand the ***** 4th Amendment - andycr512, on 03/06/2008, -1/+47I trust the average citizen much more than I trust the average politician.
- nullr3, on 03/06/2008, -11/+44This article just states the ovious,everyone already knows
- FredFredrickson, on 03/06/2008, -1/+32This is insulting to every person who has died in the name of American freedom. It's an insult to anyone who understands the rights granted to the citizenry of the U.S. via it's constitution.
Why is there not more public outcry about this? Nobody wants big brother watching over all their communications. If there is anything liberals and conservatives can agree on, it should be this. Don't let your party (whichever it may be) dupe you into believing this is a partisan issue and that the other side wants "terrorists" to win. This is ***** on all levels, and must be stopped. - RealmDown, on 03/06/2008, -4/+34No. True. Yes.
- RealmDown, on 03/06/2008, -1/+29Also those whom they WANT to be guilty.
- kaelyiesta, on 03/06/2008, -4/+31Would you mind coming in for an interrogation at my house? Don't worry, only the guilty have anything to hide so it will be fine. I promise! Also, can I install cameras in your house? Don't worry, only the guilty have anything to fear from that.
/puke
You sir make me sick. You are exactly what makes it so hard for the true patriots of this country to keep it from falling more and more into corruption. If you think the infallible government can do no wrong then explain this: http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/Conten ... - rhythmx, on 03/06/2008, -0/+22Lets give them retroactive immunity. That will make sure they learn their lesson.
- Gryffydd, on 03/06/2008, -0/+20Step #1: Buy prepaid phones with cash.
- engalicorn, on 03/06/2008, -2/+21But now it is high speed!!!!
- rsan, on 03/06/2008, -2/+19this is funny cause it means that as an egyptian canadian calling the states ive had my privacy rights abused, wonder if ottawa would do anything about it
- RealmDown, on 03/06/2008, -3/+18"Hello, state patrol? This is Intercept-Operator 13 (tm). We have a suspicious person heading somewhere. He is at coordinates x,y. Locate, ticket, search vehicle and accidentally bitch slap with a night stick for being so boring."
- trippinlikegod, on 03/06/2008, -2/+17Wtf difference is there between some random guy and some random guy who has a government job. Either way it's a complete stranger going through your personal business.
- MillionsLivio, on 03/06/2008, -3/+17Yeah, and you'll be shot before you even get a chance to pull the trigger. The government has so much power right now that unless the majority were to rebel, it would be in vain. The average person of course doesn't care, they are so tied up in their own little world to notice. It will inevitably happen, but not now, it will take more time and crisis until everyone is unified and on the same page, history tells us this.
- Conwaysb0718, on 03/06/2008, -1/+15True, but I bet it only takes a couple of lawyers to get around it.
- humptyz, on 03/06/2008, -1/+15I am so pissed off at Congress for just bowing down to Bush & Co. All those ***** care about is staying in office, actually protecting our rights is simply not a concern of theirs. Protecting us from terrorists? "Yeah, sure, we'll take away whatever civil liberties it takes to protect you..."
- LiquidIse, on 03/06/2008, -7/+21Good thing I use AT&T...
/obvsarc - MalenfantX, on 03/06/2008, -1/+14Some people worship government. It's sad.
- inactive, on 03/06/2008, -0/+13It's dangerous to be right when your govt is wrong.
- macwac, on 03/06/2008, -6/+19Goodbye land of the free. Goodbye my fellow friends, you will no longer be looked upon as the free world in my eyes. I wish you well and if at any point you wish to flee let me know and i will help you apply for citizenship in my country! ;)
- xXIrsotehkewlXx, on 03/06/2008, -2/+14Just makes me wonder if they cracked the genius teenage code of telling my drug dealer that I needed a "10 piece chicken nugget meal"
I was so cool. - jmpkay, on 03/06/2008, -0/+12normans a spook
- davidrools, on 03/06/2008, -0/+12If you're on Verizon and not under contract, why not drop them and tell them why?
- norcalscan, on 03/06/2008, -1/+12yes, but you forget the strong linking algorithms involved here. The numbers you do call or who call you are probably known and have labels attached. It just takes a few call reviews by human to solve the puzzle of that previously unknown person attached to the prepaid number belongs to the husband of X, the brother of A, employee of Y, and that they like pepperoni pizza from this pizza joint on the corner of 5th and Main.
- litolist, on 03/06/2008, -3/+14I was naive like you once, but ***** it - like RealmDown said, if the gov't WANTS you to be guilty, this is how they'll do it. You don't care about your privacy?
(yes, I said "but *****") - eggsovereasy, on 03/06/2008, -1/+12Where do you think you are?
- FredFredrickson, on 03/06/2008, -0/+11Oh sure, look the other way and let the government pass dangerous laws and legislation that take away your rights, and don't worry about it until it affects you.
How ***** ignorant can one be? - inactive, on 03/06/2008, -2/+13High-speed backdoor sluts 9 is best.
- ReyX, on 03/07/2008, -0/+10No, YOU hang up!
- dinostabOMG, on 03/06/2008, -0/+9Hm, any documentation to back that up? Serious question, not trying to be a dick.
- VSLOATHE, on 03/06/2008, -3/+12They're just people too. Keep drinking that kool aid.
- RealmDown, on 03/06/2008, -5/+14Or worse yet, the same exchange between Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore.
- elipabst, on 03/06/2008, -0/+9I wrote my Senator on this a few weeks ago. I sincerely hope they don't pass the joint version of the telecom bill with the retroactive immunity provisions for these complicit bastards.
- CrazedLeper, on 03/06/2008, -4/+12These evil beasts have no one's protection in mind.
- geniuslocimusic, on 03/06/2008, -1/+9Regardless of your thoughts about the war, about Bush, or about government in general, the fact is that we need remain vigilant to maintain our fundamental rights. "Rights aren't taken in large pieces, they're given away a little at a time..." (Anonymous)
If you are interested in more about government eavesdropping, I would highly recommend a PBS Frontline episode about this.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/homefront/ ... - blqysmg, on 03/06/2008, -0/+8Noah, you are probably 99% correct. The vast majority of the FBI agents reading this data (or listening to voice calls) are just looking for real criminals at work. After all, they have plenty of real crooks to catch, without going after regular Joe's like you and me, right? The problem is that once the line is crossed, and we allow them to monitor all communications freely, then what happens when that one, lone FBI agent with an axe to grind comes along? He does not need any reasonable excuse to dig through your life. He might actually be mad at your landlord, or your sister, and is going after you for leverage.
By giving the Feds free access to all the data without needing Judical oversight opens it up to abuse. How many examples of bad cops do we need, how many lives ruined before we have to say, no, I don't want to just hand them the keys to the kingdom and trust them to do everything right? - psykiv, on 03/06/2008, -2/+9"Hello, state patrol? This is Intercept-Operator 13 (tm). We have a suspicious person heading somewhere. He is at coordinates x,y. Locate, ticket, search and destroy vehicle and accidentally taser a few times for being so boring."
Fixed that for you. - GreyICE, on 03/06/2008, -0/+7Right, the FBI agents are people. People may occasionally have huge credit card debts. Or start stalking a particular person. Or make a criminal deal in exchange for payoffs. Or simply have a mental breakdown.
That's why we have systems that protect against people . - mmmmmbiscuits, on 03/06/2008, -0/+7That didn't work on The Wire.
- inactive, on 03/06/2008, -0/+7Go for it. It'll look rad on the Gremlin.
- Zakalwe2, on 03/06/2008, -0/+7Unfettered access plus datamining = game over for privacy.
- ePuck, on 03/06/2008, -0/+7Bush Co,? More like U$ Co. Every president has been involved in this since the start of time.
- spawnfree, on 03/06/2008, -0/+7you should write dialog for movies.
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