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- mesostinky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5My God. This is horrible news.
AOL is a ***** company with bad customer service and no real value for its customers. Its a front-end to the net and nothing else. It only survives do to incomplete broadband access and the fact that everyone >55 thinks they HAVE to keep their Bobjones@aol.com email address for life.
Bad idea google. You can no longer be trusted to do the right thing.
What's next? Coolwebsearch promos? - ZeroWing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6All your Google are belong to AOL!
- EyeDye, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Anyone know of a good Google alternative?
I don't want no hakana on my bread & I definitely don't want no AOL on my Google. - carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3now we see why it's bad for google to be a publicly traded corporation.... it's now shareholders before customers. google will continue to be a good service provider for some time as so much of the culture from early google is still there, but they'll slowly start to wear away. sad times
- thetruth, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6There is no good Google alternative. Google 2005 is not a good Google 1999 alternative. Everything has turned to utter *****. I guess the meta engines like Dogpile and these days, Hotbot, are the best bet.
Personally, I hope the Web dies under the weight of rampant, vampiric commercialization. It sucks now anyway. It's mostly SEO garbage and .swf files now. Pages rarely link to unaffiliated sites outside their domain, so the "web" is only held together by the search engines which are all corrupted. May as well go back to BBSes. It all sucks and I hate it. - ahawks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@cmirza
"Just look at Yahoo's other competing products, Yahoo Mail Beta is much better than Gmail, Yahoo Maps Beta blows Google Maps away."
I just checked both of those out, but I don't see anything that comes close to google's services.
Maps:
Is it extensible through an open API? (go look up google map hacks)
Where's the satelite imagery?
And the only reason it looks so pretty is because the whole thing is implemented in Flash. Slower, bigger downloads, less user friendly.
Mail:
What's so good about this? It looks like every PC mail client released since 1995. Gmail's first big selling point (and my favorite feature still) is the conversation concept. Ever since, I have had my normal mail clients use a filter to integrate my sent mail into my inbox in a similar way.
I thought the idea here was to move ahead, not reproduce what Outlook Express had 10 years ago.
And to everyone else, you're overreacting. Get over it. - Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2For those who want a list of possible Google alternatives should AOL garbage start to appear on Google.com homepage...
Google-free alternatives with clean search portals:
http://search.yahoo.com
http://search.msn.com
http://www.ask.com
-or-
Alternatives with the Google engine:
http://www.hotbot.com
http://www.dogpile.com
http://www.webcrawler.com
http://www.momma.com - lowbot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Don't like advertising? Then just block it. I don't see google or AOL ads and I probably won't ever.
http://www.everythingisnt.com/hosts.html - SirSid, on 05/27/2009, -0/+2I bet google IS AOL in 10 years or less
- kkaabboomm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3holy hell fear mongering at it's best. google is not going to put aol links higher up in their search results or anything like this. they will prolly give higher placement to aolmusic for their music site (like buy here, or click here to see the aol music page of this artist), they will prolly get preferential ad placement on the right hand side of search results, etc. this is NOT saying at all google will be giving aol related ***** higher search placement what so ever. god damn people.
- killerofkiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Microsoft didn't give up aol..they wanted AOL but Google made a better offer and Aol said sorry to MS. Google is going to get a ***** load of people, since Aol i still the biggest ISP. this was a good move on google even though aol is the Sux0r. computer savy people know this but to the normal everyday person Aol is still number 1
- captainjy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Like most of you, I use Google to search, but I use other search engines, as well- MS Search, Altavista, Ask Jeeves, etc. Sorry to say, I just don't see the value in Google beyond their search engine. I don't use their maps, I don't shop through Froogle, I don't watch any videos through their services. Most people are in this Google craze because they have grown so much so fast, but other than the buzz phrase, "Google It.", as a consumer and Internet user, Google is of no value to me. I use ITunes and AllofMP3 for music, Pricegrabber.com has never let me down, MS's new maps are good, but I don't spend more than 5 minutes a month using maps unless I am bored and want to zoom in on Golden Gate Bridge for kicks. My point is, Google could buy Microsoft, Apple, Sun, Ebay and whoever else and I wouldn't really give a ***** because to me Google IS search and I have more confidence in the other guys for other services and needs than Google.
- cmirza, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Why is AOL still around?"
Alot of people don't bother cancelling their AOL accounts. I predict Yahoo will eventually surpass Google in search engine quality. Just look at Yahoo's other competing products, Yahoo Mail Beta is much better than Gmail, Yahoo Maps Beta blows Google Maps away. I was hoping Google would step their game up after being surpassed in their Mail and Mapping apps, but this AOL deal make me doubtful. - notkevin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Nothing like an AOL deal to make the fanboys jump ship.
- replica, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Huge mistake.
- MacGyver, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What a waste of money, AOL is a sinking ship. http://www.gearlive.com/index.php/news/article/aol-losing-300-members-per-hour-11160500/
Article says they lost 2.6 million customers since last year. Now that you can get cable and dsl for around $20 a month AOL will be gone pretty soon. - optimusprime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh no. No one is safe from AOHell. They will get you somehow. They always do.
- Pizpump, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1***** Google. Just another corporate sell-out. Google + 3 years = Microsoft Now.
- RT55J, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A better search engine than Google:
http://beta.previewseek.com/ - SaintStryfe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1OK OK, some people here really need to chill on the AOL hating. I'm no fan, but realize what these guys have:
They need spend almost nothing on infrastructure: Their steady to declining user base requires very little. So they've barely had to make an investment since 1998. Has Dial up changed since then? Not much. But they have people every day sign up for crappy service - either because there's no high speed in their area, or they're dumb. And they spend 24 bucks a month on it. In other words: they have a big captive audience of people who are easy to sell to.
This is a good thing for Google: They're getting AOL's big subsciber base to go to them. So when they smarten up, they'll hit google.com and not yahoo or MSN. All the big players were in this thing, and google won. We'll see an annoying AOL box,maybe, but stop hating. It's just business. "do no evil" is nice copy for a book, but in reality, there's no good and evil. Just business and wasted opportunity. - jesusphreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Uh oh. You guys should've seen this coming. Google has been a money-hungry business for several years now.
- replica, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Google dead in 5 years or less.
- regedit2D, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"My God. This is horrible news."
It's a sad state of the world when something like this is horrible... - DrBudro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"If a user searches on Google for a topic for which AOL has content - like information about Madonna - there will be a special section on the bottom right corner of the search results page with links to AOL.com. Technically, AOL will pay for those links, which will be identified as advertising, but Google will give AOL credits to pay for them as part of the deal. They will also carry AOL's logo, the first time Google has agreed to place graphic ads on its search result pages."
-http://battellemedia.com/archives/002135.php
So it's just like their Sponsored link section, but with the AOL logo (so you know not to click on it) - Vlatro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1AOL is a ***** ISP. But keep in mind, they have acquired a lot of infrastructure hardware and lots of decent software over the years. Netscape & ICQ to name a few. Those sound like things google would care enough about to keep in good relations with AOL. Not to mention google's money comes exclusively from ads. Take into account that many, maybe as much as 90% of AOL users are too stupid to tell an ad banner from a legit search result... Sounds like good money. When was the last time any of you clicked on a paid advertisement. The ones complaining aren't the ones paying google's bills, so why the f*** should they care if an AOL banner or top result pisses you off? Besides, the rest of us are just a firefox extension away from filtering google result pages and blinking ad banners anyway.
- j.carcinogen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"No kidding. I hate AOL."
So you hate Firefox too? AOL owns Mozilla. - SebastianX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Smart move. The interesting part is Google offers SEO services.
- pavelich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1they prob want aim, to watch what we are saying as well, they want complete control and influence
- l3ill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1you know aol may be dying but Instant messenger isn't. this is so google can start using google talk with AIM, and can place ad's based on your conversations....
- kafka47, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What is the possible benefit for a dying, irrelevant company to yet MORE advertising?
As if their ubiquitous CDs weren't enough, and will it really do anything OTHER than to make Google look like a ***** Internet n00b? - FRAGaLOT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1But still.. I'm gonna keep using google for my main search function. This is really meaningless in the long run. Aside from the anti-AOL mood everyone has... everything else is pointless.
- silentauthority, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Have you all forgotten that the most widely used instant messenging program is AIM? And Google Talk sucks.
Think about that, and not so much on the negative. It won't be as bad as it seems. - FullMetalMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Over the next couple of years Google is going to slowly buy up more and more of AOL meanwhile moving the idiots who use AOL over to Google. Eventually Google will own AOL. I think this is a smart political move!
- duncane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Just seen that AltaVista is really a frontend for Yahoo.
It seems there are only 4 main search databases out there:
Google
Yahoo
Teoma (Ask.com)
MSN Search
Not much choice really.
I think I will try Yahoo for a while (the plain version at search.yahoo.com). - brianmcleod237, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0AOL should DIE!! Why Google, why you done it in the first place!
- jabfish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0get CustomizeGoogle extension for Firefox, click on filter tab add *.aol.* and be done with it ;)
- 2ndDairy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand the value of an innovative company like Google investing in such a terrible service provider as AOL.
- famouspete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0EyeDye (1) - Kudos to the obscure Eddie Murphy (Delirious) reference!
- snapcase, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So who bought who? I can just see the ads in Google Talk and the popups on Google.com now... Maybe those nuts on the streets shouting about the end of the world are right....
- ratsg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have never had a reason to leave yahoo as my primary search engine
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0*****, google better renig on that offer once they own Aol, I seriously, passionately loathe Aol. But for now I still love google. Albeit maybe alittle less now... :/
- MajorOutage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google as of late just creeps me out. They had a great thing going, but it seems their priorities have shifted from pure inovation to pushing profits.
- FullMetalMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0 * Jumping the shark is a metaphor used by television critics since the 1990s. The phrase, popularized by Jon Hein on his web site www.jumptheshark.com, is used to describe the moment when a television show or similar episodic medium is in retrospect judged to have passed its "peak" and shows a noticeable decline in quality. Hein also uses the "jumping the shark" concept to describe other areas of pop culture, such as music and celebrities, for whom a drastic change was the beginning of the end.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jump_the_shark - glitchbit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0nm altavista rided themselves of ads recently
- glitchbit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0still like alltheweb better, altavistas logo looks like a photoshop amatuer did it. oooo emboss!!
- nuclearpower, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wtf does 'jump the shark' mean? I hate newspeak.
Here's one: http://www.*****.net/cards/*****/
NP - cprior, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sounds like Google is becoming a doorway page to AOL -- wtf?!?
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