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- mclove, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Those actually aren't Japanese characters, they're ZhuYin (also known as BoPoMoFo) - similar style but different characters. The other characters are Cangjie, so this is most likely a Taiwanese keyboard.
And most modern Chinese words actually have two characters - there are a few (mostly grammatical particles) that have only one, and some words / fixed expressions have three or more, but the norm is two.
Nice of Slate to post an explainer on this. - Tmacman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I always wondered how chinese kids would do a spelling bee.
- soapdev, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2好笨。。
- HeroreV, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There are better articles at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_input_methods_for_computers
- rodball, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"What Does a Chinese Keyboard Look Like?"
Not as cool as I imagined (think church organ). - donsherio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1wow its funny watching all the people comment thinking they know more than they actually do. OOOK... sooo
#1 - @ zinp and mclove, Its KANJI not Cangjie or Hanji.
#2 - Kanji is a form of Japanese that was derived from the Chinese Language.
#3 - That Keyboard IS NOT JAPANESE
aaand i dont feel like ranting... but id also like to say that the Japanese, and i suppose Korean, keyboards also use a system like Pinyin. In Japan, some characters called Hiragana and Katakana are created using a combination of consonant and vowel according to how it sounds *with the exceptions of the character N, A, I, U, E and O, which also have their own characters, and not ALL consonants are used, so no, you cant ask me to spell ur name in Japanese cause it just doesn't work v.v* a combination of these Hiragana or Katakana characters will create Kanji Characters. Also, Katakana is mainly used to spell out foreign words, like english, but in a Japanese way. wow... i better not have made any mistakes :P but yeah, I have 2 Japanese computers and sometimes its a pain, but its not any different from a western keyboard... id say the ONLY main difference is key placement. In an asian keyboard, All of the basic keys like the alphabet, numbers, and shift, enter, ctrl are all in their normal places. but symbol keys like @ : ' " ; and * are shuffled around to a new place. This was one of my problems when i switched back to an english based computer, i kept hitting the wrong key :P And a Japanese keyboard needs you to push Shift + Caps Lock in order for caps lock to come on... i have no clue why v.v... and one final note. If your wondering how you switch between the english and the japanese keyboard as you type, there is a special key right above the CapsLock key that will switch the language mode. u can also do it with the language bar in windows. Wow thats the longest comment ive written for digg... Hope that clears some up for yah. - Stopher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's just like ours only it has 5000 keys.
- crazypip666, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1climan
remember that each character they type is a whole word not just a letter so they would only need to enter aroud 25 characters which is a speed comprable to yours. - dickyducky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@zinp: those are not japanese characters
- GamaFu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1zinp: "on the picture the keyboard must be Japanese, as there are both Chinese and Japanese characters."
Actually, the picture shows the keyboard that Taiwanese use rather then Chinese one. Also, not Japanese one either. - pervy_the_clown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1+digg because I've always wondered that
- itsnotvalid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2(In reply to climan's comment)
OK. You should have known that a Chinese sentance has about less than half charactors of the English counterpart. Like:
好，這好像很不濟啊。如果我要這樣做，我可不會用電腦。
Character count: 1...2...3...22 charactors for the (roughly) same meaning as of your sentance. - dbr_onix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1..I think I prefer the 102 key english keyboards for some reason..
Still, interesting..
- Ben - darrenford, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I was expecting a regular keyboard with the L missing
- usermac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1好笨。。
*web* translator "Good is stupid" - muikano, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That keyboard is just a memory aid. All keyboards support cangjie functions.
Personally, i use twinbridge. My rudimentary pinyin is enough for my daily uses and it has a English Chinese dictionary.
Yeah, me am big fan of Twinbridge software.
你最好去死了， 白痴.
@bulletseed
Um, ppl type really fast in cangjie. A sentence in chinese is like a paragraph in English. Maybe even more if it's a parable phrase.
If your thinking about inferiority, it's alphabetical languages that fit the bill not symbolic ones. You could say that, Chinese is harder to learn and therefore less useful as a universal language, but to say that Chinese people regret their language....that's preposterous.
For example, my Itunes smartplaylists are all in chinese. 音樂 takes less space than the word "Music." Symbolic Language are powerful when used in the write place. - GiggleStick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Who you callin' a Bopo Mofo?
- Manchucka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@zimp
Actually, many simplified characters used in mainland China and Singapore are from Japan. For example: Chinese 國 became Japanese 国 which China then borrowed back. And no, you are confused: the keys on the keyboard pictured have 3 ways to input characters: bopomofo (Zhuyin, the Taiwanese alphabet, used to spell out a word, after which one chooses the correct character, the same method as using the roman alphabet ), roman alphabet, and the radical system (to build characters by their parts, usually 2). So, only type what you know... - PomPomMono, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Lame.......
I have Chinese characters on my laptop keyboard. It's always fun watching people's eyes bug out with a confused look on their face and exclaim "what's wrong with your keyboard?"
That just makes me wanna scrape out all the English characters on the keys and confuse people more!!!!
Muwahahahahahahahahaha!!!! - jayf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is a pretty lame article.
Its done the same way in Japan and Korea and everybody knows this. Anybody who wondered this but didn't exert the effort to hit Google doesn't deserve to know the truth and should be made to continue believing that Asian keyboards are comprised of 3000 keys, one for each kanji glyph.
How do you say "No digg" in Chinese? - marreka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0meh, it's similar to IME for Japanese input. Nothing all that new.
With Japanese, if you knwo what you're saying and understand the kanji, it's just as fast as writing in English. In fact it's probably easier. haha - toyotaboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I just asked this question the other day, forgot to google it. if it's sounded out, isn't that "phonetics?" like americans use? if so, doesn't that make chinese on a computer redundant? It's weird to think how american inventions don't always make it so easy for other cultures. If I were chinese, I'd be using voice recognition.
- Manchucka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ donsherio
Look again. While Zhuyin has borrowed heavily from both Hiragana and Katakana, those are CLEARLY not Hiragana or Katakana. Look again, then look again again. - Zopmaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@Exclipt: Me too.
Actualy I have always wondered what one has looked like... Thanks digg! +digg - phytonix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Actually Wubi is not so fast now...
The most efficient input method for Chinese is....Erbi....which means.....2 strokes!
like enlightenment.....in Chinese....is composed of two characters. And you need about 4 letters to input that one.
To make it simple...if you use Erbi Chinese Input Method, it will just require 2 alphabet letters for one chinese characters, average. This input method combine pronounciation, the component of the Chinese character and also common combination together so it is relatively easier to learn than Wubi, also faster!
So... English (7 letters) in Chinese will require only 4 letters
Apple(5)->4
Enlightenment(13)->4
I am so sorry(13, including space) -> - burningheretic6, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wow... it has gotta suck to input text that way. Must make it real hard to learn. But digg cause I had no idea so it enlightenme. :-;
- TA_Superman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah i wonder who was the genious who thought it was a great idea to have a symbol for every possible noun, verb and adjective possible
- antoniojvr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Can't they take a SINGLE picture of technology in Japan orChina without having a girl in the picture?
- Mephistophilis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0jayf (0)
in chinese ”不挖“. - jckosnow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0thing about it is, is that such a keyboard allows Chinese typing people to *cheat*: the keyboard/software suggests the right symbol. in the good old days, you just had to know Chinese, and that was that. why learn those 1000's of symbols if you don't have to? and many don't.
so i'm told. - lordsandwich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Once they complete the transition to Newspeak, they'll need far fewer keys than an English keyboard.
- emostar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@chaos86
Nonetheless it is part of the Japanese language. Read what I said, tool. - sn0wflake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0itsnotvalid: You're right that Chinese takes approximately less than half characters but when it's UTF-16 or UTF-32 encoded it still takes up the same amount of harddisk space or even more. It's also easier to learn 25 letters instead of 100.000+ symbols, right? So there's no advantages of Chinese, Japanese, etc.? I spent a year in Japan as a foreign exchange student and was told by one of my teachers that it would take something like three years just to learn how to read a newspaper.
The Chinese made some great inventions but their way of writing was, and still is, a huge mistake. - exclipy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Dugg. I was looking this up myself after reading the "One Click Revolution" story last week.
But not only are the Chinese the most avid bloggers in the world, they're also pretty zealous with the SMSes. I want to know how they write text messages on their phones. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Digg, but why not better pictures?
- OperatorNo9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I thought this was going to be a joke and that somehow their keyboards were now filtering anti-government rantings by preventing them from typing them...or something. It had a lot of potential.
Oh yeah! No digg. - stumpadoodle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ok...so do they write code in Chinese characters?
sounds like a stupid question I know but still... - Satanstorm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0How is this news?!?! I can imagine in Japan, some hick puts an article on his board that reads "What Does a Caucasian Keyboard Look Like?" If you want to know, just ask somebody - you know, like the Chinese guy you avoid having any social contact. Love how people tries their damnest to alien people.
No digg. - majordanger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I worked at a small computer company in AZ way back in 1983 when PRC first started opening up. The keyboard we devised was a standard QWERTY keyboard. It required two or three (sometimes 4) keystrokes for each chinese character. With the custom keycaps it looked like somebody tagged it with Silly String.
- v3xt0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0y'all gonna learn chinese!!
y'all gonna learn chinese!! - tylerman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Imagine having no standardt keyboards in america all of them typing newb different (newb, n00b, noob, //006, etc etc,) wait a minute.............
- ivachen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I used Pinyin and it's slow, wanted to use Wubi and it's hard to learn, so if I am typing to anyone who can understand a little I will rather type in English.
However I do believe Wubi input is faster than English in the same sentence. Think of typing any word in only 5 or less strokes, it's hard to beat that.. - soadman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i do it all the time. i take chinese in H.S. i use my macintosh to do it, its easy!
- jeff1943, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They don't because non Chinese has developed a language to do that, but let me tell you there will be one someday very soon ^^
@spacebar14
The most spoken language is actually Mandarin. The most widely used language is English. Correct me if I'm wrong. But one thing for sure is that people is America will start learn Chinese. (My mom's part of the Chinese AP group in US) - hadem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Ok, that looks like an absolute pain, I don't think I would want to use a computer if I had to do that." - climan
Each symbol is a word. Way to make yourself sound like an ass! - JaymzM16, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Leave it to China to have giant faces of women attached to the bottom of their keyboards.
- jeff1943, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0我有一個中文鍵盤 =)
Some people in China just use normal English input keyboards since they use Pinyin. I'm from Taiwan myself, and I can type fairly quick using Zhuyin without a Chinese keyboard.
The picture shown in the article is most likely a Taiwan keyboard since all the letters shown are traditional characters.
中華五千年! - sinfony, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0People everywhere are going to have to start learning Chinese.
- Manchucka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ jeff1943
Of course that's a Taiwanese keyboard, as nobody besides the Tawanese use Zhuyin. Also, the Taiwanese are not the only ones to use 繁體字。 Also, 那不是漢字，是部首。 - astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0
The following quote will apply for Sony if they make the Chinese keyboards:
"SONY, because caucasions are just too damn tall."
-Crazy People -
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