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- ddrirc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17I stopped listening to FM radio the day I got my iPod. At least where I live, there are waaay to many advertisements on the radio (which are usually combined with idiot DJs that spend too much time talking about unrelated crap).
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9wow, i couldn't agree more.
the ipod (and other large capacity players) allows you to create your own radio station.. with only the music you like, no ads, much better sound quality, ability to skip tracks.., etc.
i can't stand radio anymore. - andywirtanen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I listen to AM sometimes for traffic or weather updates when I'm on the road. Also, sports broadcasts since I don't have XM Radio. Key word: sometimes. I usually just listen to podcasts on my iPod.
- pilot3033, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Sounds about right, internet radio is great, so is podcasting :)
Not to mention, sometimes when I DO get a craving for a local station, they have their broadcast streaming online!. - nlatimer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Sometimes I like to station surf to pick up on some new rock, although most of it isn't good, or something more classic that may have slipped my mind.
Still I think all AM talk shows should offer a podcast, preferably free, although there are a few I'd pay a nominal fee for. - g30ph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It's difficult to tolerate the radio once you're accustomed to commercial-free entertainment.
- britkev1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Based on the story and the location references, I would say this is something UK only. Actually it might not even be the entire UK but the London area only. I am sure if you conducted the same poll online in the US, it would be much different results.
- andywirtanen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I don't think there really is a site for this and I agree there is a need for one.
Here's a simplified version since you're on Digg:
People on Digg like Diggnation
People who like Diggnation like everything on Revisision3.com
People who like everything on Revision3.com typically like everything on Twit.tv, except for maybe The Daily Giz Wiz
People who like Twit.tv podcasts that have a lot of time also like dl.tv and What's New Now
Some people who like Twit.tv podcasts and find Amber Macarthur attractive watch commandN if they can put up with Mikey
Everyone likes Rocketboom, Ask a Ninja, Tiki Bar TV and NPR's Wait Wait Don't Tell Me
Americans like the President's Weekly Radio Address parody podcast - razmig, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5actually, in the dictionary, percent can be written as both "percent" and "per cent", just a matter of preference and location really. so neither is right or wrong.
- OmegaNine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I wonder if this was an online pole. I use my Zen for all my music when im not in my car, but when im driving I tune in to what ever is on at the time. i think the numbers might be warped a little, not that I wouldn't like for it to a higher number.
- tokyopimp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3See I can understand if you have a cool radio station that you like. But I think in the vast majority of the United States, it's Clear Channel BS, 50 percent ads, 50 percent crap music.
So screw regular radio, I don't even remember the last time I listened to AM/FM radio. - csrster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Does anyone have any good ideas for how to find good podcasts? I'm thinking of
something that can correlate from user-supplied playlists to give a "People who liked
X also liked Y" type of listing. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Satellite radio is not just about the talk shows. You get superior audio quality and over a hundred commercial-free music channels.
- bergur1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2people are just realizing this now?
- kalleanka, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Unless you know something my dictionary does not know, the correct English spelling is "per cent" and the correct American spelling is "percent"?
- Mardala, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That is why internet radio rules. Between SomaFM and the radio lists in iTunes I never run out of commercial-free music. Most stations tell you what they are playing in case you want to find it for the ol' library. Nothing beats endless streams of quality music.
- guru12v, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Podcasts, Sat. radio, cd, Pandora, Archos, and Modded X-Box, who has time for analog?
- MrZop, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yeah, I use my Zen all the time. i havent listened to radio in years. only for weather or sports. but even that is easier to find online nowadays.
FM/AM is dying - cebbs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I agree that most people are progressing to podcasts and music on the portable players. However, there are a few talk shows on AM with loyal listeners such as Air America, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. My old roomate listened to Rush every day for three hours. I couldn't believe him....
- mesoed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2While I'm not from outside of London (where the study took place) I still have a hard time believing these figures. I've been a podcaster for 16 months now and I listen exclusively to podcasts myself. If this figure was true, I wouldn't get the deer-in-the-headlights look from people when mentioning the word "Podcasting." While a nice thought, I don't quite believe it. Most people listen to audio programming in their car. Most people to not have the ability or cash to take podcasts into it. That's why there have been studies claiming that 75% of people listen to podcasts on their computer. To get to the point this article claims, there needs to be a larger percentage that can take podcasts with them into their cars and truely replace traditional radio.
I'm also miffed at Virgin's claim that "professional podcasts dominate the top 20 downloads." While I can somewhat believe this, they claim it's because of the name and the quality. In reality, it's because Apple sells their prominate space in iTunes to people that can afford it... aka Big Media. Marketing goes a long way. Those that have the cash to market get the recognition. - ironbear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I discovered that there is almost no over the air radio available in the bottom of the Grand Canyon, and that Sirius is huge there. I fully expect my survey to demonstrate that exactly NO terrestrial listening takes place anywhere, the obvious conclusion from that data.
Of course, the Virgin survey is specific to Virgin Radio and their listeners, (and represents rural listening 'outside London' according to the story), it's utterly meaningless outside that restrictive sample.
No Digg. - grizwald, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Im sorry .. but this is impossible. I would bet it isnt even remotely close. I would be stunned if the internet radio crap (including IPods and everything) is even 5% of the radio audience.
- OficerMantimber, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I just download all my music or listen to satellite on my satellite. The only radio stations around here play "classic" rock that are 6 minute minimum length songs that everyones heard a thuosand times, country, and terrible current music. The only AM station is a talk and news one with at least 5 political conservative syndicated shows (most misinformed and horrible comedians) that all seem the same to me.
- thefinger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Imo, there is still some traditional quality radio around. Well alright, one station. I bought a really nice (somewhat expensive) radio that sounds, to me, awesome. I keep it on one FM station all the time. They have classical, jazz, experimental late at night. Newscasts are kept to a minimum.
I'd rather use the computer as a way-station for tunes, I mean the ones I audition.....yeah audition.... :)
I sometimes tune into shoutcast from winamp but other than that, I don't care to use the computer for playing streaming music. Net connection not too reliable, and slow.
Finger - eldenno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I can believe this. Since I got my ipod and started discovering online radio and podcasts I've pretty much abandoned am/fm. Besides the radio in the UK is awful, a lack of specialist radio and too much repeated chart music causes this. About the only thing that's worth listening too is the radio 5 live sports and radio 1 specialist shows like one music. Oh and xfm is ok, especially the remix show.
- delp3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's never going to threaten big radio. There's always going to be people who will listen to commercial FM radio and be happy with it. I recently moved from Atlanta to DC and Atlanta had much better stations than DC. There were much more diverse stations in Atlanta and that's one of the reasons I believe people are being driven away from commercial FM radio. When you tune in a commercial FM station you will hear the same songs from a very small rotation played day in, day out for X amount of weeks depending on how much money they are getting for doing so. When you tune in to most internet stations you can hear something besides the big hit from an artist. An internet classic rock station may be playing Hendrix's "1983..." not damned "Foxy Lady." And even most pop stations will deliver something different than the same Sean Paul song five times a day. That's where the attractiveness of internet radio comes in play for me.
Hoepfully the commercial FM world will catch on that a lot of people do indeed like diversity in their music and make some changes. - Egoist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The only thing listening to on the radio anymore are ballgames and AM/FM talk shows (C2C when I haven't reached my daily quota of crazies that day). FM was fun when I cared about winning tickets to concerts, but there's just too much crap to put up with to make it worth it.
- iliketurtles2, on 11/20/2008, -0/+1"People using the web to listen to radio during the evening now outnumber those using traditional AM or FM receivers, according to Virgin"
You should remember that this is Virgin Radio we're talking about, the most pathetic radio station I've ever had the displeasure to listen to. They broadcast nationwide in the UK on AM, which I can't imagine has many listeners anyway and FM in London only... no wonder they get more listeners online(!).
Go ahead and listen online, I can guarantee you'll turn off within 10 minutes due to the sheer number and repetitiveness of the advertisements and crap music. - premedios, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I too prefer internet radio and podcasting to conventional radio.
- isosceles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I concur. As much as I'd like to believe this were the case throughout the US... It's not. I've tried to get several friends to checkout Podcasting and they just don't get it yet.
My dad actually started checking out one of his favorite radio shows via podcast loaded onto his Treo. It works well, but for the most part he still listens to dreadful AM reception.
We are dealing with consumer habbits and changing those that have already been set for decades is a tough task. - willcode4beer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Damn, right. The radio is fine is you love hearing the same five songs over and over and over.
I can name dozens of interet radio stations where I can get a whole day without hearing the same song twice.
As for satellite, lets just say I am very disappointed. I got Sirius, paid for a year up front, and they repeat songs MORE frequently than the local am/fm stations. Anybody care to chip in as to whether XM is like this?
Maybe I just need to put a computer in the car w/ 802.11. Then while its parked in the garage, it can download music with rss/mp3 magic. hmmm.... - mesoed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Try PodcastPickle.com, they have something similar set up.
- astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Radio is dead... its just talk all the time.
All the morning, noon, and evening shows are trying to be Howard Stern which they can not be and they just
end up making a ass out of themselves and wasting my commutte time listing to their garbage.
I think there is one decent station in Philly... 88.5 XPN.... they don't garbage the airwaves with gibberish, other
then that I jack my Mp3 player into the car stereo and don't bother with radio. - jdupez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree with this article. Since i have a fast internet speed now i mainly stream music from this excellent site, www.1club.fm, which has something for everyone. i also just listen to mp3s, and such. Listening to the radio has been a rare event in the past few years. A single exception is in the car, which i think is when most people listen to it.
- roodscreen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The more I look at the stats, the more I am conviced they relate only to Virgin Radio's listener habits.
Still, it is technology that is getting in the way of more people becoming podcast listeners. First you have to download and navigate through iTunes or some other aggregator, the if you don't have an iPod then you have to manually transfer the content to your mp3 player. Most cars to not have an aux in on their car's sound system so you either have to get an adaptor or listen via earbuds.
On the other hand, I can jump into my car and push a botton to listen to crappy radio. It may be crappy, but it is easy to access. Often my choice is between listening to the radio or listening to my kids scream in the back seats. I normally choose crappy radio. - antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I would love to see Internet radio where I can skip songs. About 95% of the songs I hear, I want to skip. :)
- g30ph, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I have a sirius subscription, but I only have satellite radio in my car, so I download the howard stern show 90% of the time. I doubt I'll renew next year because I have an ipod and got the adapter in my car. I can copy howard to my ipod.
- mikebeauchamp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It's really a shame though, because campus/community radio IS still worthwhile.
You can almost literally walk into a local community station and get your own FM radio show, to talk about whatever it is you want to talk about or play any sort of music you want and it has the potential to reach thousands and thousands of people. I know streaming audio ('podcasting' for the hipsters) is sort of similar, but honestly how many listeners do the average podcast get? I know a few people who have tried to start one, only to have listeners in the single digits. With FM radio, they could have reached thousands and received calls live on the air, etc. AND had an archival mp3 to 'podcast' when they were done as well.
People are moving towards satellite radio, which in my opinion is way worse. Any chance you could get your voice heard on satellite radio? nope.
I do agree though, FM is dying. It's been dead for 10 years, the ONLY thing that keeps it alive are the fact that car manufacturers put radios inside cars. Nobody wants to listen to an automated clear channel radiostation with a playlist of 20 ***** songs in heavy rotation. This should definitely die.. and it will. I hope this frees up the radio band for more non-profit radio stations.. maybe some that re-broadcast online radio shows.. that would be neat. - rnelsonee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Headline is misleading. This covers evening broadcasts in London suburbs.
The number of people that listen to the radio vs those that listen to only online programming is probably 50:1 or so. Digg users are certainly more likely to not listen to the radio (I certainly don't - I just use my iPod in my car), but just think of all those morning commuters that don't have an iPod, let alone an interface to their stereo. - csrster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I found a site that does this, but they don't seem to have much of a user-base yet.
http://collectik.net/ - cliffzdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is just talking about who listens to Virgin radio in the evening, a useless statistic.
To say radio is terrestrial radio is "dead" ignores the millions of us commuters tuned in to am or FM on during our windshield time Monday through Friday. Regardless of how much better Sirius or XM are, they aren't good enough to demand $12 a month vs. free FM or AM for most folks. I'm a tech head, and I won't shell out $12 a month for satellite radio, now if it were free??? That's another story... - smujeremy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I listen to local talk radio on FM. We have a pretty great talk station here in Dallas - KLLI.
But for music, I have MP3 CD's and my MP3 player for that. - g30ph, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Your comment about satellite radio leads me to believe you don't have it or haven't spent much time listening to it. It's all about what the people want. XM and Sirius have to answer to the people, not the advertisers. Personally I still find my ipod more entertaining with the exception of howard stern.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0wrong digg story, digg down now!!
- tokyopimp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Who the hell listens to regular AM/FM radio anymore. With MP3 CD's/ipod/and satilite radio, wtf is the point?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Leo Laporte: "I've heard of this new website that's serving 1080p porn; porn always advances the tech industry.
*TWiTs glare at Leo*
Leo Laporte: "What?" - WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1They still have radio broadcasts? I thought that went out with corporate-owned television broadcasting with all those damn forced commercials!
- gerriediaz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0its "percent"
- prcpaul, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4*cough* www.punkradiocast.com *cough* www.unrestrictedradio.com *cough*
Sorry, shameless self promotion. - JeanPetanque, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2I don't believe it. I listen to neither radio neither online radio.
I think it was a poll on the internet, of course you get numbers like this.
So, no digg from me.
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