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- deanlowe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27I don't get Calacanis' problem with Kevin Rose. It seems like he knocks kevin every chance he gets. Is it because Kevin wouldn't sell out to him?
- LegendarySock, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27Its because Kevin made a better site than Calacanis and Calacanis needs to buy people to come to his site. Sad, sad little man.
- geuisteses, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Web 2.0 is so passe, so... January.
My secret new company is already on to 3.0. Debuting soon! - OficerMantimber, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Calcanis and Arrington are arrogant *****.
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14So let me get this straight... he wants to buy failing companies?
he'll feel right at home with Netscape. - ThatsUnpossible, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Circle Jerk time.
I'm so sick of meta 2.0 (web2.0 sites discussing web2.0).
Everyone just shut up and make something... other than a discussion about people who are making something. - Axios, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Only when you're not able to do a better job than your competitors.
- tlongren, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Both are rat finks who believe they're better than everyone else.
- Ninjab3ar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12isnt rooting for your oponents failures the only way to get ahead in business?
- RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Calacanis is in a sticky situation. Having copied Digg, there is no way for Calacanis to hype Netscape without also drawing attention to the fact that he stole the idea and design from Kevin Rose. Netscape is a living testament to Calacanis's lack of integrity and creativity. He knows it, the internet knows it, and so does the mainstream media (reference the BusinessWeek article on Digg). Calacanis is being a dick because asshatery is all he has left at this point.
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -0/+83.0... man that was so 9:20pm last night.
web 4.0 right here. I don't know what it is and i've not worked on it yet but you can sign up to the BETA if you want. And you know it's better than web 2.0 because 4 is like two 2s... or something. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Calacanis is a moron. I still read two newspapers everyday. The New York Times isn't going out of busines anytime soon.
- gimmegimmenow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I can't stand these 2 guys. They just regurgitate what's been said elsewhere, just like all those annoying bloggers. They're hype and should go away.
That's why when their blogs come up, I don't digg them because I prefer going straight to the site they're mentioning or ripping from. - TomTester, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Calacanis is a thieving loser. Always has been. We here in the Alley (what Alley? Silicon Alley!) remember him all too well...
During the bubble times it started all nice and dandy... he did launch the silly-con-aley reporter (SAR), at first a bunch of copies, then a mag (rag?). Later people were nice to him to avoid being ragged on or thrashed in the now-full-fledged 'ragazine'. Finally he turned it into the Venture Reporter (even more power!)
People don't like him. People just 'tolerate' him... Ask anyone.
Of course this self-promoting opportunist wants another bursting bubble. The first one taught him how to get rich: steal a good idea, sell it as your own to a fool with money, and get the hell out....
Case in point: he stole the web log conglomerate idea from Nick Denton (the guy who started started Gawker and Gizmodo, and ran famous networking parties in London / New York in the first bubble).
Been there done that... His reasons for hoping on another bursting bubble must be clear... especially now that he has money. - Sagarian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6though it would be nice if Arrington in particular had a shred of humility or a sense of history. He doesn't seem to recognize that Web 1.0 : Web 2.0 :: Industry Standard/Red Herring/... : TechCrunch
As the linked article aptly points out, nobody cares about your commentary if the subject goes out of vogue... - gimmegimmenow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Well SOMEONE cared enough to register TODAY in order to kiss the ass of a regurgitator. So no, you STFU as you're only at digg (for the first time) to defend your favorite douche who uses digg as a vehicle for his hype.
- jaimevejar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5according to Alex Albrecht... Calcanis = Satan...
- Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Who's Calacanis gonna steal from if Digg fails?
- jrsims, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Calacanis and Arrington are long overdue for couple's therapy.
- teledog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What's the saying, "those who can't do, blog"? This is an acurate description of what happens in the blogosphere. Most people (the minions) don't care for readership or followership, they just want to be heard. The "experts" like the two talked about in this article are just setting themselves up for a beating when they actually do something (a la Seth Godin).
- vdxc, on 09/29/2008, -1/+4Calcanis also doesn't seem to understand what BusinessWeek actually meant. Kevin is worth $60mill, he doesn't have $60mill. It's calculated by his shares in Digg (BizWeek worked out how much Digg is worth then worked out Kevin's share worth)
- pseudojd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5A rising tide lifts all ships. You want your competition to do well. That forces more competition.
- onethumb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You can add me to the list. The companies that have a real business model ("grow big and sell to Google" isn't a business model) will be left standing to reap the rewards.
- TomTester, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Alas... I betcha they learned from the first time around... sticking others with the bill this time.
- illegalchuck, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I agree. This reminds of "virtual reality." It doesn't mean anything. I just want it to go away.
The original web success stories like Monster and Ebay resold an inventory they didn't pay for that was supplied by the general public. It is not a new concept. The only difference today - that content is rendered using AJAX and surrounded by fading, mirrored gradient images. Pretty soon investors are going to figure out that using AJAX doesn't instantly monetize a flawed business model and most of these sites will be going away. - RevEng, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I hate to agree with anyone making such cutting remarks, but there are no ad hominem attacks here because there was no logical argument going on. Instead, people were making comments about their impressions of him. gimmegimmenow is probably the worst person to rip into, since he was the first person to make any specific argument as to why he didn't like them: he felt that they were only copying others. That's a fair enough statement to make, even if it wasn't backed up by any evidence (though much has otherwise been said for Netscape's sudden likeness to Digg).
I should also say that it's insightful to see what percentage of Digg doesn't like him. All of them have specified his attitude as the problem. Perhaps you should mention to your friend that a large number of potential readers are put off by his grandeur.
And lastly, if you were trying to defend your friend's reputation, why would you do so in such an offensively defensive manner? Perhaps a well-thought out reasoning for his attitude would work better than denying what others have experienced because you haven't and passionately attacking others the same way you say they are attacking him.
Edit: gimmegimmenow replied before I did, ruining half of my point, but I still state my case. - TomTester, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well... I do, and he knows me too... we almost met in court.
- gimmegimmenow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well as I stated before, I have a dislike for them because of them just writing or promoting what was said elsewhere. If a techcrunch post comes up on digg promoting a site, I don't want to hear it from a blog. Digg is here to promote that site directly. I want to cut the middle man and go straight to the source, a news oriented site or brand new web company.
If a blog has original content, I'm all for it. Techcrunch hardly provides original content and that other guy is just a jerk for trying to mimic digg for netscape, trying to buy digg posters, and of course his continuous promotion of his blog company is sickening. - amoirae, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As if.
We all know that Satan is a megacorporation like Beatrice was in the 1980s.
He's more a subsidiary of Satan. He's Satan-Lite with 90% less evil and none of the intelligence. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What the F are these torrents of Web2.0 articles about? Aside from a few entrepreneurs running these blog-like things, is anyone supposed to care?
I simply like reading a few good articles ocassionally, and commenting once in a while. I'll happily move from site to site, never knowing or caring who these people are. - MisterKen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow, 2 young men with too much success, to early, talking ***** about other people in the same industry. It's like history all over again.
Wake me up when they start loose everything...I wanna watch. - TomTester, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oh and for good measure... Arrington has indeed taken to removing non-favorable comments on companies he promotes... I have proof... Circle Jerk 2.0 is the right conclusion indeed. The fame has gone to their heads...
Note: the only good guy in this space, with critical sense AND foresight, is Om Malik (and yes, I know him too, quite well even, worked with him in a previous company) - chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Who?
These people need to move outside the bubble then pull there head out there ass because your not that important. You just run a website, get over yourself. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This just makes want to see the demise of Netscape even more.
- amoirae, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3But.. but... it's a new *paradigm*!
;-P - chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2cockpunch FTW!
- marcamillion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For some reason, whenever I digg a story that has the name "Calacanis" in it, I feel like I am selling out. He is such a l0s3r. I get sick even seeing his name. If it wasn't zdnet, I would bury this story. Calacanis SUXX!!!
- treleung, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I hardly know anything about these two, but they come off as major deuche bags.
- akinbanjo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Calacanis is just plain jealous of Kevin. It's funny really. Kev must have a good laugh about it from time to time, I imagine for Kevin, reading Calacanis.com must be extremely amusing.
- zaqintosh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is mornic...
THERE IS NO WEB 2.0
Business people think web 2.0 is the new marketing strategy applied to the internet.
Dev geeks think web 2.0 means dynamic pages with AJAX (or any other magical api/tool on-top of jscript)
They are both wrong. It's a totally meaningless buzzword... in fact the next person that mentions web 2.0 to me, I'm going to punch in the genitals.
I read one of the zdnet articles.. the term "web 2.0" was repeated like 15 times in the one page article... obviously a pathetic attempt to increase the google rating.
it's just the WEB... get it? - troublemaker, on 10/12/2007, -8/+9Rrrgghhh I hate the term "Web 2.0" with every sore muscle in my body. Please, pretty please, stop using that term. Now.
- sherwinn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What the heck? This is what EVERY businessman wants. Good lord, you "Web 2.0" idiots really are opposed to making money.
- TomTester, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1He already did (steal) from AOL. Why was the previous comment dugg down... it's a good joke!
- vexd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0hilarious.
- TomTester, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0PS I do think this Web 2.0 thing is simply new tools for young people... more hopes and dreams of making a quick buck, some succeed, others follow, precious little innovation (unless you call a mashup innovation)
I too have been there and done a lot of 'that' sinclair, CMB64, IBM XT, AT, 386 (25 Mhz!), email (1988), nntp/news, Laserdisk, CD-Rom, CD-i, compuserve, pipeline, netcom, mindspring, earthlink, Spyglass, NCSA Mosaic, Netscape, IE 1.0 (bought), FireFox etc. etc. More of the same. No real change. Things do get better the second (third) time around, but I'm still waiting for another revolution... (like the internet).
Two phrases that will make anyone over the age of 40 laugh:
- a kiosk in every store!
- you can use it to store your recipes! - Jolla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is why shorts don't fail and how they have corrupted our markets
http://www.thesanitycheck.com/ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1You realize that anyone who seriously uses the term "Web 2.0" is ignorant, right?
- akinbanjo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Ya know, I don't know too much about Arrington...but what I do know is that he runs a great blog, which is a daily read for me. He does his work, and he delivers, and I commend him for that, no matter what.
TechCrunch does pretty much rock.
Re: Calacanis. Do not get me started. LOL. Complete theif, and living way back in the past - I'm talkin' '95. - atomiq, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Donna Bogatin is, in my opinion, a hack. And that article is classic link-baiting (just like her Google hate-on).
By the way Donna, *everyone* thinks the web 2.0 bubble is going to burst. - FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5AOL ;)
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