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- BrandonAbell, on 10/12/2007, -7/+51With the right look and attitude, you can get free sex too.
- t0ny, on 11/05/2007, -0/+26http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-to-air more information.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=95214 Use your pc as a dvr with satellite. - Jozer99, on 11/05/2007, -1/+23Actually, you can technically get (steal) most satilite channels. How it works is this: Amost all national/international TV channels (probably not your local access) beam their TV signal up to a satilite, where is bounced back down to your local cable TV company. The problem is this, usually, there is only one channel on that signal. That means that your cable comapany has several dozen satilite dishes, one for each channel. With a satilite dish pointed in the right direction and a decoder box from eBay, you got your channel. Its great, because oftentimes, it is commercial free (commercials are added locally). That means if you watch CNN, you get to see the anchor persons bitch to their assistants/smoke/copulate or whatever they do during commercial breaks. However, you only get the one channel that your dish is pointed to, to change channels, you need a VERY good idea where that particular satilite is, a signal meter, a GPS device, and LOTS of patience.
"Satilite TV" as we often know it (DirectTV, DISH) work by recieving all these separate satilite channels at their headquarters, re-encoding them, and bouncing them up to their own satilites. With DirectTV and DISH, every channel is on the same satilite, so you don't have to move the dish to get a different channel, just decode a different part of the stream. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9That's all you get for free if you are pointing to sat 119 w.
point 123 w, that's galaxy 10r there you got more choices.
The good stuff for FREE is on C band, for that you need a bigger dish like 10 ft wide - Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Oh! Tomi has been doing this for years!
I guess that means we're not allowed to do it too. Move along folks, nothing to see here... - TKDWILSON, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I don't understand how to do this. Can I get some help? I set up the receiver but I only got like 3 channels. Nasa channel and a couple others.
Eric Wilson - jgc7, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15Try googling "hack Nagravision". I am presently getting over 1000 channels, including 10 pr0n channels and PPV. Not to bad, but not exactly legal.
- coyforce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5We used to get Astra in Germany. Everyone over there seems to use it. They have MTV, Eurosport and other name brand channels. Pretty nice since it was free.
- astroid0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This seems pretty cool. Hopefully I'll get the time to set this up.
- rosspal, on 11/05/2007, -0/+5You cannot use a Dish network or directv antenna to view most of the Free to air (FTA) channels.
Directv and Dish Network use a technology called Circular polarization (right hand circular and left hand circular) transmission which all of their retail dishes are set up to use. This technology allows for easy set up of the dish (Azimuth and Elevation angle adjustments only).
The FTA channels mainly use Linear Polarization (Vertical and Horizontal). Antennas that use this technology require a third adjustment called Polarization. Most cable head ends and networks use this technology to transmit and receive the video signal including Discovery Channel. - jeolmeun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Are there any videos of CNN people during commercials online somewhere?
- mattspammail, on 11/05/2007, -1/+5Normal very good satellite quality. No HDTV receivers that I know of.
This stuff (beyond FTA - getting all Dl5h N37VV0rk channels) is not for those who don't enjoy the thrill of the hunt. I spent many hours ordering, questioning, redoing, etc. Then I got it to work (kind of a proof-of-concept project for me). I was happy. It looked good, I was creating and sharing channel lists, answering questions, etc. I really never watched it, because I wasn't about to stop paying for cable. Then I sold my house. I left my dish on top of my old house, and never got the receiver back out of the box. It's a Fortec Lifetime Ultra. Nice system. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4green: that's ku band, that's like your common direcTV dish size.
pink: thats C band like a 10 ft wide dish. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4yep there are tables you can use to point the dish according to where you are and what satellite or "bird" you want to catch.
- Computer_Kid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I want to do it just to watch the CNN people bitch!
- wmpp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6First of all, G4 does suck.
Secondly, this list is kind of misleading. Sure, you can freely receive the HBO and Playboy signals, but you'll still have to decrypt them. They're not FTA. In fact, nearly every (all?) channels on the Echostar satellite is going to be Nagra encrypted. - stalky14, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Most of the channels on that list are off of European or Asian satellites that can't be received in the US.
Most of the "good" channels that can be seen from the US are encrypted, and most of the ones that aren't
are only on C-band (big dish). The number of FTA Ku-band (small dish) channels with regular programming
in the US is quite small, and are typically religious, educational, or foreign language. Lyngsat is the best site for finding what's out there though. The bottom line here is that Europe and Asia get a LOT more good free stuff on satellite than we do, because the broadcasters assume that we've got more disposable income in our pockets, so our eyballs are worth more. IOW, we've got so much money we'll happily pay for the privelege of watching their commercials! Yay! Sadly, they're pretty much right. - asskey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Sweet, Spongebob in Dutch!!!
- apexweb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ive been using a Dreambox receiver for about a year now in the UK for the FTA channels and have around 600 free channels, and around 150 in english.
- erazmus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I blogged a description of getting Nasa TV from free-to-air quite some time ago. You can find it at:
http://www.broadbandpig.com/archives/2005/07/how_to_receive.html - ungabunga, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I have been having an FTA receiver for over a few years now. Pansat 2500A and a DVB pci card for my pc twinhan to be exact. They work great right now i receive over 500+ dishnet channels. Its awesome. You can buy them cheap here at freetoairdish.com They do free shipping. And you can get all your info at www.al7bar.tk or i can help you out=)
- TalGreywolf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The problem is that for the US viewer, there is no service that's similar to what's available in the UK and Europe. In the UK, you have Freeview (30 free television channels, but is a domestic transmission system) and Freesat from Sky (which has 120 channels) for all of 150 pounds (roughly $260). This pays for the dish, the receiver and that's it. There's no other monthly fees for the service, so you can watch what is provided (which admittedly isn't all that great a choice, a lot of shopping and special interest channels). But it does provide all of the BBC and ITV channels, which for most folks is sufficient. With the way the US networks and services have been set up, anyone trying a Freesat-type service would get squashed by all the major players in no time.
Still, it would be nice for those of us in the US who would prefer an alternative to local cable services (or DirectTV). - bchow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4This links to "Channels from United States" - this doesn't mean the channels can be watched there!
If you want free TV, you should find out what satellites broadcast into your area and then check this site to get a channel list for the satellites you can point your dish to.
@godmode: (who said FTA channels suck)
Depends on what FTA channels you can receive. If you are not limited to one satellite, a motorized satellite setup will give you an amazing selection of channels. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Yeah, as I'm typing this, I'm seeing another Adelphia commercial saying "Don't get Satellite!"
- Craig1394, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Back in the 80's, my family had a 6' C band dish. One of my favorite things to watch was, if I remember correctly, Transponder 21 on Telstar 3. The Wold network would transmit a weeks worth of some syndicated shows on the weekend. I really loved being able to get the original Canadian Much Music station years before the US broadcasters got ahold of it , too. Man, there was so much neat stuff on C band back then.
- Klowner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4you point it at whatever bird you want to watch a signal from
- Computer_Kid, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I hate those commercials, Note to Adelphia:
I HAVE CABLE, you dont need to advertise me cable through cable! - jgc7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Actually dish network encrypts the signal using the nagravision scheme. Lookup try googling Fortec and nagravision. plenty of resources on the web.
- rosspal, on 11/05/2007, -0/+3There are two parts to this: The Satellite Operators like Intelsat and Telstar and content providers like CNN and HBO.
Satellite Operators do not care that you are receiving the signal transmitted from their satellite. They do care if you attempt to transmit a signal to their satellite without their permission. Big no no!!! FBI usually gets involved and will hunt you down.
The content providers do care that you are receiving their signals not meant for you and they attempt to stop this by encrypting their signals. If you are able to decrypt it without leaving a trace (ie. calling the content provider and asking for decryption) it would almost be impossible to find you and they really don't care. What the content providers are most concerned about is that you might decrypt the signal and rebroadcast for financial gain. This is another big no no!!!
Enjoy!! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7G4 doesn't suck. HBO doesn't suck. CNN doesn't suck. Playboy doesn't suck. Okay, maybe Playboy does suck - it depends on your definition.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Anyone know what the difference between green and pink means in the table?
- Computer_Kid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4So why pay for satalite?
- Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I think 10 feet is a bit of an exaggeration. I've got a C-Band dish, it's only 5 feet.
- kimastergeorge, on 11/05/2007, -3/+5Look at the choices--they have everything! From HBO to CNN, and even CNN Turk!
(Sorry to sound like an advertisement... but it's true!) - tower31, on 11/05/2007, -0/+2You can normally get these boxes cheap at http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=SearchBody&search=satellite
- rosspal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Here is a slightly better link from the same site. The will take you to a list of all the visible satellites in the US. Click on any one to see what networks are available.
http://www.lyngsat.com/america.html - tomi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5anchor, even though it's a "secret society" [which it isn't really], most people probably won't have a clue how to use the information properly...
- jasqwerty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Except, you know, they can't? Sue you, maybe that would work, if you left your decoders next to your dish outside, but they can't send you to jail or fine you. And somehow the police just don't care.
- inactive, on 12/15/2007, -0/+1Good Source: http://www.dishcheck.com/internet-tv.aspx
- tidejwe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Haven't had a chance to finish my list yet, but here is a list of those FREE channels that some satelite companies like DirecTv CHARGE extra money for:
Bloomberg TV US
BYU TV
C-SPAN
Celebrity Shopping Network
CNN
*Comcast Sports Southeast
Daystar
-Discovery Civilisation
*Discovery HD Theater
*Discovery Health Channel
-Discovery Science Channel
-Discovery Turbo
*Encore West
*ESPNU
EWTN US
*Fox Sports Net Rocky Mountain
Fuse
G4 Video Game TV East
G4 Video Game TV West
*Gol TV
*HBO West
*HBO HDTV West
HorseRacing TV
HSN - Home Shopping Network
Jewelry TV
-LOTS OF LOCAL CHANNELS
-International MTV channels
NASA TV
-NBC Central
*-NBC East
-NBC Mountain
-NBC News Channel
*-NBC Pacific
*NET HD
-NHL on OLN
-Outdoor Channel 2HD
*PBS Adult Learning Service
-PBS HDTV
*PBS Kids
Playboy One
Shop At Home
ShopNBC
Starz West
TBN US
TCT Network
The Church Channel
The Learning Channel East
The Men's Channel
The Outdoor Channel East
The Outdoor Channel West
The WB Central/Mountain
The WB East
The WB West
The Word Network
When you can get them yourself for free if you know where to point the dish etc. kind of funny... - Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Do you know if I can use my C-Band dish with one of those receivers?
- Mental64, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Haha, yeah right, that's going to happen.
- mckinnej, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Very true. I found this site over a year ago and it was well established then. However, I'm glad that some more people have found it and have a use for it.
On a different track, in the US, it is legal to receive anything that is broadcast. It is the broadcaster's responsibility to secure their transmission. Before the general public became tech savvy, you could watch everything on satellite for free. They didn't start encrypting until they realized a lot of folks were on to them. You could grab the raw feeds with no commerials. It was cool to see what the live shows did during the downtime. - cbdgr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1anyone know what format or quailty theses are in?
- dunstdunst, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1http://moneyclimber.com/userguide/userguideTVonPC. ...
- samsite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1this is ok, all this information is avalible if you get the satilight times, or what satilite TV. I am living in the Uk and have been at this since the D2 mac days, sadly i cant put the 1.5m dish i had on the side of my new flat!
- peterbarbosa, on 11/05/2007, -1/+2Yeah im running my Fortec Lifetime ultra, pointing at currently three birds. Been doing this for 3 years now, and im in shock that this is dug.
But note, that the post made is legal... but the comments people are making are illegal lol - Mofo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1We've got a direct tv dish from the previous owners, wouldn't we need a hacked card in the box to read the signal? I've got digital cable right now anyway, probably not too much point in going through all that effort to change.
- haifastreet, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1This site is not a story, and it does not have much content. This is a very informative page about American satellite tv providers: http://www.satellitesweeper.com/dish-network-vs-directv.htm
- rosspal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1To add to Jozer99 comments:
There are typically 24 channels (aka transponders) on a C-band or Ku band satellite. Each channel can hold 1 to 10 digital channels depending the transmission set up. In most cases you can do very well if you point the dish to one satellite and can navigate through all the channels.
Each channel is assigned a frequency. For the 24 C band channels they use the receive frequencies of 3.7MHz to 4.2MHz. For Ku they use 11.7MHz to 12.2MHz. These are typically used for the Satellites visible from the United States. -
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