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- MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26Comment buried for negative impact on my intelligence.
- markmorow, on 10/12/2007, -12/+29"For months, the company has been struggling with an issue in the Vista set-up process. As the operating system was loading, the screen would appear to freeze up, with no indication that the installation was still progressing--although it was."
I love how Microsoft struggled with the install progress bar. I'm not nervous at all for more advanced features such as saving files or using the internet. - meatmcguffin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Gawd that is so ***** irritating.
And even though i'm not too keen on microsoft, please just sod off. - awhiteflame, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7that's *résumé*.
- dwemer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9The merits of your post can be summed up by this quote "Trusted Computing could turn the world into a police state". That is the silliest thing I have read all day.
- tvashtar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Web based OS"
Please please read ANY primer on what an operating system is (start here maybe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_System although i'd recommend Operating System Concepts to Silberschatz Galvin and Gagne for more info) and then revisit that term – web based OS. The fact of the matter is what your talking about is a user interface, at best a window manager of sorts –– not an operating system. - tvashtar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Motion Desktop?
Yes a truly revolutionary idea – animated wallpapers. Excuse if I'm not so overwhelmed, this is already available as a third party app. - antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3And how badly AOL will break Vista. [grin]
- WhiskerTheMad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"The fact of the matter is what your talking about is a user interface, at best a window manager of sorts –– not an operating system."
The fact is, my dad still calls his monitor "the computer" and his tower case "the hard drive." I'll let you be the one to try and explain to him the difference between a "web-based OS" and "lightweight operating system using web applications as the primary GUI." - ilikevag, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7if you read the article without such a negative attitude you would see that there aren't that many issues remaining and that the ones that are are being fixed
- DucksofAnaheim, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5What`s really cool is that MSFT hasn`t shown all their cards yet...Motion Desktop and Sideshow just to name a couple. http://on10.net/Blogs/laura/2890/
- bigbird1040, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I wasn't into the whole 'P2P' thing for anything but music back in 2k1 when my friend gave me a leaked copy of XP...so I don't know much about how torrent communities will react to a new OS. What I would like to know is based on this article, when do people think we can get our hands on a "Retail Version" via piratebay etc.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Dude, just shut up. No-one cares.
- antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16600 is the final build I think.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Pretty quickly. I don't imagine you'll be waiting more than a few days, that's for sure.
- Pwelborn1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2If he does work for Microsoft, then he's a lot smarter, and much better off (job security) than you are!
- justncase80, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You couldn't be more wrong, we're practically drooling in anticipation. With .net 3.0, office 2007, the new version of Visual Studio and Team Foundation Server! It's practically as good as porn.
- superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I've seen your statement before, or at least declarations identical to it.
Your message is that the tool is evil, while ignoring that it is the wielder of the tool who is responsible for evil uses.
TPM has some valid uses (such as how OS X uses it, where OS X checks to see if it's running on a Mac but still allowing any other OS to run on Mac hardware) that do not harm users, as long as it is not abused my the makers then you have as much to fear from TPM as a coffee maker.
There are plenty of other good reasons to switch to free platforms, this just is not one of them. - justncase80, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1because we all know that every single operating system in the universe has no bugs what-so-ever except microsoft operating systems. All of those annoyingly frequent package updates on linux systems are just "feature upgrades" not bug fixes. yeah thats it...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ajck
...and as soon as your vision becomes a reality, I'll move to an OS that *does* work natively. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1is vista 5840 the same as the final released version? or did ms make any changes before it was sent to manufacture?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5I woudn't trust Vista as far as I could throw the DVDs it comes on.
Microsoft and quality software engineering go together like oil and water - never the twain shall meet. Given this product is re-engineered from the ground up by Microsoft monkeys, can you BELIEVE the amount of patches you're going to have to apply over the next 2, 3, 4 years? SO not worth it.
Sure, digg me down MS fanboys, but just remember this comment when you're cursing at all the Vista bug fixes in the future. - PointGuard, on 10/12/2007, -10/+7This is sweet!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Reading the HUGE labours that this bunch of people (i.e. the Windows dev. team) goes through to get this vast lump of code (i.e. Windows) out the door makes me realise just how much Web based software and a Web based OS is going to replace large scale operating systems in the future.
The future is not one where Windows or it's descendants feature. It is one where lightweight network apps that can be fixed for everybody instantly grow in abundance, on open standards, fast networks, and mobile devices. That future is almost here now, and thank God Microsoft haven't realised it, because it'll make it all the easier to sweep them aside and realise the great new future of personal computing we're all inevitably going to experience. - realyst, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6Vista's got no place on my workstation unless they liberate it from their legal team more.
I don't know how it can remain economically feasible for use in a small business with the draconian EULA it has. Also the high licensing and retail costs.
XP will do good enough for now, then Ubuntu or OSX from then on. - dSlifer, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Is it just me, or does Ina Fried look like a man wearing a woman suit???
- AgentBorrelli, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3Isn't it XP's last mile and Vista's first??
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -15/+11"I personally think that freezing up is probably a 'feature.'"
Yeah it is..all the time it freezes your machine isn't getting spyware and relaying spam email. - mofomojo, on 10/12/2007, -12/+6So, does anybody feel like debating the merits of my post? Or do they feel like digging it down because it's anti-Microsoft and makes them feel bad because they possibly have invested interests in such evil?
- quamsta, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5I bet there is a little bit of disappointment in the air of the Microsoft offices over what Vista could have been.
- chesscat, on 10/12/2007, -11/+4That's nice-count me out of the upgrade merry go round. For the first time in 15 years I will not be upgrading my windows OS and will switch to MAC. This disaster, known as windows, is so broken that Jesus himself couldn't fix- if so inclined.
- ujangdigg, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2what a stress
"did u find my rèsumè honey??.." - chesscat, on 10/12/2007, -17/+9I personally think that freezing up is probably a 'feature.'
- chesscat, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3I imagine you work for microsoft. how well does the shill job pay?
- chesscat, on 10/12/2007, -15/+5"Two weeks ago, Microsoft thought it had something that promised to be the final version. But within a couple of days, two new glitches had surfaced. The issues were arcane, but significant enough. In one case, there was a potential problem with burning DVDs. If a Vista machine attempted to burn information to a blank DVD directly from a network drive, there was a chance that data could be lost, if the network was slow. The other problem had to do with offline folders: Under certain circumstances, applications weren't being notified if the cache was full." This was a quote taken from the article. Gee, I could lose my data from burning a dvd? Yeah that would be bad. Still want to upgrade? How many other problems are lurking that they don't know about? What's gonna happen when you start installing apps and mix everything up in the Vista soup of 25million plus lines of code? Good luck for those upgrading.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+1*****.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -16/+3btw a look at microsoft can never be fascinating.
- mofomojo, on 10/12/2007, -20/+7Personally, I denounce Vista as a sham.
While, I do think that everybody should be able to post what they want and what they think about Microsoft - Good and Bad. What it does, in terms of user rights and what I can do - IS ABSOLUTELY ATROCIOUS. Absolutely.
I reccomend that everybody switches over to a free operating system and secure themselves a computer that doesn't have a Trusted Computing chip in it, right away. Essentially, Microsoft plans to implement secure restrictions of user rights on their Operating system, and through TPM, they could possibly prevent users from switching to competing operating systems on their systems.
If you're more interested, invest some of your time in reading what exactly Trusted Computing is, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing or what exactly the DRM scheme is on Vista at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Windows_Vista - and while you're at it, vote to keep the Article because of it's immense social importance in the coming years.
In essence, Trusted Computing could turn the world into a police state, if the manufacturers desired that. Microsoft is far more evil than anybody has ever comprehended. - freakitude, on 10/12/2007, -19/+3gr8
- vsujohn2, on 10/12/2007, -25/+6"Ok, lets see, what can we take out or mess up to totally piss the consumer off?"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -39/+5buried for non-negative microsoft topic
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