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- ZephyrNinety, on 07/15/2008, -4/+131"Google would like to start a direct connection"
"Google is trying to send file 'YouTube' (12,000,000 mb), would you like to accept?"
"Viacom has accepted file transfer. Estimated time remaining: 35 years" - irishjays, on 07/15/2008, -6/+117I, for one, do not welcome these binary storage overlords.
- MJG2007, on 07/15/2008, -1/+82But first you must bring us........a shrubbery!
Seriously though. Wait until they find out 11.3 terabytes are of people watching Rick Astley. They are gonna think he's so popular, they'll sign him for life. - GvnMcCld, on 07/15/2008, -1/+77The same company giving all of their email users 6.93Gb of storage.
- gcnaddict, on 07/15/2008, -1/+68"Error during file transfer."
Score. - bobfuller30004, on 07/15/2008, -2/+62That's great, but will Google mask the data in a way that will prevent Viacom from later saying, "OK, now unmask this one and this one and these too."
- rnawky, on 07/15/2008, -4/+54Who the ***** keeps 12Tb of logs.
- pcpimpster, on 07/15/2008, -1/+45In this scenario...
https is a false sense of security for your thinking.
https secures the transport not the end point from extracting your IP or whatever else it wants to slip into its logs: server side.
https Only ensures that the server is getting the most accurate information from its communication with your browser.
https in this scenario actually legitimizes the servers logs which could then be used against you. - compu73rg33k, on 07/15/2008, -14/+57I completely agree with the quoted comment from the youtube blog. Also every site needs to start offering httpS for all traffic. If someone doesn't want to use it, fine, but with my increasing (and well placed I think everyone would agree) mistrust of the government and ISPs, I certainly would (and do) use it for any site that it's available.
- trdrstv, on 07/15/2008, -3/+40Google doesn't believe in "DELETE"
- Origin415, on 07/15/2008, -1/+37Just take out the ID and IP columns of the database, doesn't sound too intense.
- inactive, on 07/15/2008, -3/+39Duh! All you have to do is delete columns A and B from the Excel spreadsheet!
- hexydes, on 07/15/2008, -7/+42OH! OH! THANK YOU VIACOM! You are so benevolent! How nice of you to, after demanding the entire database of information and data from a company, including their source code, concede to let the data (which wasn't relevant in any way to you to begin with) be made anonymous! GENEROUS, WONDERFUL VIACOM!
You, Viacom, are the reason old media needs to die a fast and bloody death. I hope Google loads the data with trojans and spyware. Burn in hell. - cam0man, on 07/15/2008, -2/+36I don't know why these companies aren't embracing the free bandwidth and storage their content is getting. What's the point of this? You remove your content from YouTube and find out who uploaded, then 1000 other people upload it to dozens of other video upload sites that aren't nearly as cooperative when sharing IPs.
Learn to leverage the free publicity your content is getting on YouTube and figure out how to use it to your advantage. I'm pretty sure that NOBODY is using a youtube clip as replacement for watching a show on TV or buying a Blu-Ray. - Azulya, on 07/15/2008, -0/+33Of course, this has nothing to do with the problem of Youtube logging your requests, so..
- airwalkery2k, on 07/15/2008, -2/+33I'll bet half of it are comments like "FIRST!", "Fake" and "No, you're an idiot!"
- angusm, on 07/15/2008, -1/+30Because they're going to be using it to sue Google, not individual users.
They might like to be able to sue individual users too, some day, but for now they've got their sights on Google. - heanshi, on 07/15/2008, -1/+26i hope Viacom will have fun going through 12TB of data for the rest of the century
- kevingarnett, on 07/15/2008, -3/+26damn, 12TB of data to be anonymized...suddenly my grunt work doesn't seem so bad. I realize that it will be some sort of automated process. But it will have to be verified
- tenspeedogbb, on 07/15/2008, -1/+24I think you've been in a coma since sarcasm was invented...
- inactive, on 07/15/2008, -0/+23Google keeps everything.
- Drahkar, on 07/15/2008, -3/+24I think you are trying to be funny.... But I'm sorry. You are really failing at it.
- krellor, on 07/15/2008, -2/+23Holy missed the joke batman. You thought he was being serious with Excel?
- Magicmasta, on 07/15/2008, -0/+19But Viacom doesn't have broadband. After all who needs broadband if you're not going to download movies :/
- wexmajor, on 07/15/2008, -6/+24Why the ***** do they even want it if they're not going to be using it to sue people?
- mllind, on 07/15/2008, -0/+18The intent, according to Viacom, is to show that it was infringed content that is the most popular on Youtube. If they can prove that Youtube would be nothing without this material, then it helps their case that Youtube owes much of its success, and maybe some money, to producers like Viacom. There is no need to know personal IPs to obtain what they want. Now with this agreement, they can't do anything else besides their public intent, which is a huge relieve. They want money from Youtube, not people. They don't want to be like the RIAA in the PR department.
- D2Much, on 07/15/2008, -3/+19If that ever happened, I would mega lawl.
- Jayso89, on 07/15/2008, -1/+16^ WTF is the reply feature?
- RyeBrye, on 07/15/2008, -0/+14"Defendants shall substitute values while preserving uniqueness for entries in the following fields: User ID, IP Address and Visitor ID."
That part will take a bit of work - but can you imagine what kind of horsepower you will need to create reports from 12 TB of data? I just don't think Microsoft Access on your mom's PC can handle that kind of data... - teh_techie, on 07/15/2008, -1/+15Overestimate. You can thank google for the quick actual calculation:
(12 TB) / (10 (megabits / sec)) = 116.508444 days - thecyko1, on 07/15/2008, -0/+14Regular expressions saves the day?
http://xkcd.com/208/ - soccernamlak, on 07/15/2008, -0/+12Not really. Viacom still wants to see the popularity of played videos that are copyright infringement versus normal videos. Essentially, they want statistics of types of videos that users watch and the traffic to specific types of videos. As of now, they do not want nor need specific usernames and/or IP addresses to tie users/IP addresses with specific counts of copyright infringement.
- t0x2c, on 07/15/2008, -0/+12Actually about 10 rows in Excel is 12 TB.
- LeviTheSmith, on 07/15/2008, -1/+13What about racial slurs and homosexual hating slurs?... don't forget about those man.
Oh and comments that are like: DONT READ THIS! IF U DO UR MOM WILL BE KILLED IN 10 MINUTES UNLESS U POST IT IN 10 MORE VIDEOS! - RMoore08, on 07/15/2008, -3/+14Its still stupid. I still say send it to them on floppies.
- sparql, on 07/15/2008, -2/+12Because they are going to show how Google is profiting off of other company's intellectual property.
- xptweakerntn, on 07/15/2008, -2/+12Google
- MavRevMatt, on 07/15/2008, -1/+10The same company who says archive is better than delete.
- patricksweeney, on 08/19/2008, -1/+9You would make enemies with a lot of server admins as well, as it is a lot harder on the server resources.
- bundwallah, on 07/15/2008, -0/+8Bingo!! They'll ask for the keys to nail the "offenders". This isn't about market research and "seeing how much user generated vs copyrighted material" is posted. If Viacom wanted to do that, I'm sure Google would've obliged selling that data to them. That Viacom had to go to court to get this data means something more sinister is afoot.
- Origin415, on 07/15/2008, -2/+9Then viacom could run sha1 on usernames/IPs and find them in the list anyway.
- FredFredrickson, on 07/15/2008, -1/+8The scary part is not that Viacom is getting this information, it's that it wasn't anonymous before they got it.
- FurtThePirate, on 07/15/2008, -1/+8*****!
DONT READ THIS! IF U DO UR MOM WILL BE KILLED IN 10 MINUTES UNLESS U POST IT IN 10 MORE VIDEOS! - hexydes, on 07/15/2008, -1/+7Boy, it's just too bad they couldn't do that when it was YouTube (net value: $526.00), and not Google (net value: $billions).
I'm sure that's just coincidental though... - Lazydriver, on 07/15/2008, -0/+6This is Google to Viacom, so we're not going to be using a 10mbit, we're talking gigabit connections here.
(12 TB) / (1 (gigabit / sec)) = 1.13777778 days - MavRevMatt, on 07/15/2008, -1/+7Note to Cybermaul, Excel is not used to store online databases.
Except for Twitter. - t0x2c, on 07/15/2008, -1/+712 TB of the internet crowd...
Those poor souls. - ikrit2006, on 07/16/2008, -0/+6Yet another Digger pretending to be a coder by reading xkcd...
- imapluralist, on 07/15/2008, -1/+7Dugg for cyber-rage.
- Shootfast, on 07/16/2008, -1/+7Welcome back meme. We missed you
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