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- trapilales, on 10/29/2007, -2/+168definitely NOT comcastic!!!
- teeks99, on 10/29/2007, -1/+91Awesome! This is going to be a breath of fresh air for the internet. Not only will people be able to even out BitTorrent swarms, but they'll be able to do things like run web servers (at a reasonable rate) from their home computer. Think how easy it would be to share a file with someone if all you have to do is drop it in your ~/www/ folder and give them a link to it. I yearn for the day when I don't get 5MB attachments to e-mail!
On the flip side....this could make botnets even worse. Imagine what kind of DDOS could happen with 10k people with a 20Mbps pipe each (200Gbps!). - ChromaVita, on 10/28/2007, -0/+64Alright, so when does it come to my area? When does ANY FiOS service come to my area? No one at Verizon has been able to answer this yet. I really want to get rid of Comcast.
- inactive, on 10/25/2007, -2/+53Alright!
Now we're only a third as fast a Japan and Korea.
This is an improvement. I guess. - benjpw, on 10/26/2007, -3/+52I'm sick of that argument. Japan regulated, funded, and supported high tech development because its important. Im America people just want to use myspace and e-mail each other chain letters "disproving" evolution.
Its a matter of priorities - America no loner values science and technology - Japan and Korea have been "living" in cyberspace since the 80s. Anime is becoming real over there - we are becoming fat and stupid. - inactive, on 10/25/2007, -1/+46"Verizon offers 20/20 symmetrical FiOS service"
They don't offer it for me. - Supadude, on 10/25/2007, -0/+41And to think, Im paying $56 a month for 5/.5
Thank you cable companies for giving it to me from the rear! - zensequential, on 10/29/2007, -0/+39From the post in USA Today: "The high upload speed makes the plan similar to but slower than the business-class connections used to host websites. However, Verizon won't allow subscribers to run a server from their home."
Soon in the future, there will be a debate as to whether a PC hosting BitTorrent client(s) would be considered as a "server"; technically according to BT protocol, you're "serving" files as you downloads - thugok, on 10/26/2007, -1/+33Yeah imagine providing the service you advertise. Those ***** consumers think they deserve what they paid for. 20 Mbps symmetrical.
- neutrino15, on 10/24/2007, -2/+30lol the description!
- copperhead, on 10/29/2007, -2/+29Since it looks as though Verizon wants to allow users to run servers, I wonder if they're going to turn off their blocking of port 80 (http).
- shifty2, on 10/29/2007, -0/+27this would be nice. with those speeds, running a personal website from home would be sweet.
now digg can bring down your home! - SuperCow1127, on 10/26/2007, -0/+26It's symmetrical. Read.
- schoate09, on 10/25/2007, -0/+23I just want FiOS to be available here...
- badassninja, on 10/25/2007, -2/+25I hate those ads so much. Whenever something really bad or dumb happens I always say, "oh.. that's comcastic".
- ibeetle, on 10/25/2007, -0/+22I live in north east New Jersey; Verizon country. You even think about saying anything bad about the big red V and they will chase you down and beat you with sticks. So I am running a big risk here. If they find out I am dead.
Called Verizon customer service (Basically India). Never heard of it. Not available.
Called Verizon Corporate (Not a toll free call; my dime) Never heard of it. Not available.
Called Verizon local; Transfered 3 times. On hold for a total of 45 minutes. Finally got FiOS IT department. His response: That is out now?!? Wanted to know where I read it. I told him. He put me on hold. Never came back.
When Verizon starts advertising it in one of the weekly FiOS ads they send me it is true.
Until then... marked inaccurate. - badassninja, on 10/24/2007, -2/+24We (all of digg) hate you.
- ShrimpCrackers, on 10/25/2007, -2/+24Comcastic? no surprise that it rhymes with Craptastic!
- Beylan, on 10/25/2007, -0/+22Hell, I'd be happy with my 6/512k Comcrap connection if they didn't spend so much time trying to keep me from using it.
- ShrimpCrackers, on 10/25/2007, -3/+22Yeah? Then why the heck are populous areas like NYC/NJC, SF, LA, not wired like Korea, where everything is in one city, Seoul and everywhere else is pretty much empty.
- Solkre, on 10/26/2007, -2/+18It was stated that they will not allow you to host servers. If the traffic is low I doubt they'll care, but if you're going max upload all day they'll shut you down in a second.
- inactive, on 10/25/2007, -0/+14I live 5.5 miles from Microsoft and we were finally able to get cable TV about 5 years ago. I'm pretty sure it will be at least another 10 before FiOS rolls through for me.
- arcticblue, on 10/24/2007, -1/+15Oh yeah? Well here in Japan I have 100/100 for only $50 a month with NTT OCN. Also, standard ADSL is no slower than 10Mbps and gets as high as 45Mpbs. The 45Mps service can be had for about $40 or $45 a month. My e-penis is bigger.
- KnightMareInc, on 10/31/2007, -0/+14I've been waiting years for fios to come to my area
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/25/2007, -0/+13The only thing that will ever be Comcastic is this old lady and her actions against an extreme and greedy corporation.
http://www.cepro.com/article/75_year_old_woman_tak ... - thugok, on 10/25/2007, -1/+14I can't wait to ride in my own fighting robot.
- inactive, on 10/25/2007, -0/+13So? Doesn't do much good when they block HTTP and SMTP ports.
I'd rather have 100% unrestricted access at lower speeds. - inactive, on 10/31/2007, -0/+13That's what happens if you live near Microsoft. They hog all the bandwidth and resources.
- rz8472, on 10/25/2007, -0/+13I'm sure that also explains why sparsely populated Sweden (18.2mbps), Canada (7.6mbps), and Norway (7.4mbps) are faster than us too. We're still stuck at 1.9, and we have to pay more for that speed than Japan does for 60.
And besides, it's only for people who can afford it, so it won't affect the average broadband speed much. - imbetterthanu, on 10/24/2007, -0/+12You have it backwards. Servers listen on port 80, you send at > 1024 TO port 80 when you browse the web. Your connection comes back in as established and Verizon blocks all incoming to port 80 to it's customers. Well...as far as I know. I don't have Verizon (but I do have unfiltered port 80 from Time Warner!).
- sgr215, on 10/25/2007, -1/+13I've already got FiOS and am still at 15/2. They have been promising us the 20/5 speed tier in Maryland for a couple years now. I wonder if 20/20 will have a similar fate. If so, it looks like I won't be getting 20/20 until 2011.
- badassninja, on 10/25/2007, -0/+12Hey 2 up is way the hell better then comcast's upload rate.
- lostngone, on 10/24/2007, -0/+11So what is Verizon monthly limit(cap) before they turn you off? All this means is rather then Verizon turning you off on the 24th of the month you will hit this undocumented limit on the 4th of the month.
- stinkypickles, on 10/25/2007, -0/+10Durring my stint working at the worst small-time ISP in the country, I was witness to them "turning down" several DSL accounts because they were "Running a bittorrent server"
- inactive, on 10/24/2007, -1/+11I would HATE to have your life.
- xxshoexx, on 10/25/2007, -0/+9Personal accounts block port 80 outbound for hosting web servers. Plus you will not have a static ip. You can point your web server to run on other ports such as 443 which is the SSL port and use DynDns.com to manage your changing ip.
- ploop, on 10/26/2007, -0/+9Pay another $50/month and run as many servers as you want. FiOS business with Static IP doesn't have that restriction.
- fayeumi, on 10/25/2007, -1/+10When I was in Japan (two months ago), I had to share internet connection with the whole building. I certainly don't claim to be an expert, but I would think it would be like that in a lot of Japan. The connection ended up being a lot slower than my Comcastic! connection at home. Anytime someone downloaded something, legal or not, no one else could use the connection. While I may have had the crappiest connection in all of Tokyo, I think the super-fastness may have something to do with the fact that people share in Japan. It's not "my internet! stop hogging my bandwidth!" over there. You share and you pretend you like it.
- ynggrsshppr, on 10/25/2007, -0/+9One hand giveth, the other taketh away. So we're back to square one.
- driftwood07, on 10/24/2007, -0/+9ughhh i pay 75$ month for 5/.25 i am getting plowed
- seiha, on 10/24/2007, -1/+9Cable is capable of those speeds, but will they offer it? Hell no, but it's good to see verizon is bring the competition. Let's be more like Korea plz. 100mbit in every household. Everyone will have a personal topsite ;]
- metallimus, on 10/25/2007, -2/+10I just wish they'd hurry up and expand FiOS into Illinois.
- srg13, on 10/24/2007, -1/+9Are you THAT out of touch with reality that you think the average internet user doesn't want to be able to easily upload photos and videos to the web etc.
- nazadus, on 10/24/2007, -1/+9The server receives on port 80 (grep through your apache file -- you'll see this) and the client comes from a random port above 1024.
This is also how they block mail servers (SMTP 25) -- they simply block incoming on 25. - inactive, on 10/24/2007, -1/+8dammit.. i have a feeling you are making a good point but its 1 in the morning and there are way too many numbers in your post for me to comprehend it.
- inactive, on 10/25/2007, -4/+11Not bad considering our population density is ONE TENTH that of Japan
- ploop, on 10/25/2007, -0/+7Indeed. Your entire apartment building would be counted as a single customer for the purposes of statistics like these.
- Stucarius, on 10/24/2007, -2/+9What an idiot comment. the U.S. and Europe are apples and oranges. One of your countries is barely larger than our average state. Rolling out a non "State"(National Government) supported network across a huge country is simply not practical unless the national government steps in. Which in most European countries it does.
Oh and when I was in the south of France this summer decent Internet connectivity was nearly non exist but in very select environments. I am sure if you are in a major city it is great but outside of that it is no better than here and a lot worse in many cases.
The U.S. needs to do something to improve the situation coast to coast and in both Urban and Rural environments but these comparisons to little European countries or even more hysterically Korea and Japan are ignorant in the extreme.
Take a ride on the Get-a-Clue Train. - inactive, on 10/24/2007, -1/+8Even those who live in nyc hate you.
- spoonsman, on 10/25/2007, -3/+10Yes, it's an improvement, but I'm still paying about $30US/month for 100mbps up/down. This is another one of those "In Japan my internet is better than yours" posts that any bandwidth article on Digg can't go without.
It's nice to see them catching up, but there's still a ways to go. -
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