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- steelmaverick, on 10/12/2007, -25/+142Er.....there isn't even 400,000 available yet.....let alone sold...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -20/+114what's that? a sony console that has trouble reading discs?
this just doesn't make sense! - Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -44/+134Ah yes - 1 out of 400,000 people has a problem with their PS3. Therefore, all PS3s are buggy and broken. For all we know, the guy could have smashed it on the floor, it could have been chucked round at a mail depot or he may just have been really unlucky.
- primehifi, on 10/12/2007, -29/+102Unless sony comes out with a firmware update that gives you a blowjob, it is time to say they lost this round.
- shmatt, on 10/12/2007, -19/+86Wow, one guy's first-generation unit crashed. meaning absolutely nothing.
Can you guys get over the Sony vs MS, Apple vs MS *****? do you really care that much?
LAME - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -33/+100Yawn. This is exactly the kind of tripe you get in the British tabloids. Ignore the complexities of the fabrication process, interperet quality assurance to mean 100% success rate and throw in the occasional sweeping statement like "...but we figure Sony should have learned from Microsoft's mistakes..." to make it sound like you have an argument.
- killdashnine, on 10/12/2007, -3/+54Ahhh, the risk of the early-adopter.
Hope he got the Best Buy return policy with that! - Wireddd, on 10/12/2007, -17/+64it's a first run sony console, what do you expect...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+45lol @ Beep of Death. So cute.
- mozillamonks, on 10/12/2007, -5/+37"Show me 100 and you've still got a 99.99 success rate for quality control."
Actually, you would need 10000 customers with only one breakage/failure for a 99.99% success rate. - LRFalk01, on 10/12/2007, -11/+41There is a guy in my IT department who preordered a PS3, and when he got his unit, it was dead on arrival. He received this unit from one of the stores that was selling them at midnight. He went to a Best Buy which opens at 6 and bought another one. This second PS3 powered up, but it appears as if the blue ray diode is not working. It will not read any PS3 games.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+35I just got a new 360 last week, also got Project 8 and it crashed, it's happening during the skater's videos.. and i've heard its happening to others..nerfed development i guess..
On another note all the other 4 games i got are great. - knightblade2oo4, on 10/12/2007, -11/+37this is twice now.
this guy's PS3 and the smashmyps3's PS3 both have the same issue. - Skullpop, on 10/12/2007, -3/+29I feel sorry for the people who qued so long to be the 1 in *whatever* that gets a busted one.
- farther, on 10/12/2007, -8/+31Wow. I really didn't see this coming. HAH! Good thing the PS3 doesn't have a built-in lithion battery.
- UnoEfe, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24I kind of doubt this will be the only instance. Buying faulty launch hardware is always a risk that early adopters must face. Hopefully, his unit will be replaced very soon.
- cbreaker, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23It's mass-produced electronics. It happens. But, it also happens to *everything* mass produced. $4000 TV's, $40,000 cars, memory sticks, $400 video cards, 500GB Hard Drives, etc etc etc.
Are you under the delusion that there were zero faulty Nintendos? Or Arari 2600's? Or Sega Genesis? Of course there were. There was just no Digg for people to whine about it and claim "TOLD YOU IT SUKED!!!1111" - deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -11/+25"Ah yes - 1 out of 400,000 people has a problem with their PS3. Therefore, all PS3s are buggy and broken."
Unless you have a good amount of knowledge about statistics and product MTBFs, you really ought to research that (sarcastic) statement.
First, glance at this article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve
If Sony isn't willing -or- able (I suspect the latter) to properly burn-in and test PS3s, expect a rash of reports like these in the coming months.
The die sizes of Cell and Nvidia's GPU alone, coupled with their high power consumption do not bode well for product lifespan of the PS3.
...not to mention the weak 1 year warranty.
That 1 in 400,000 (now) could translate into 10,000's out of a million in a very short amount of time. - EntropyFan, on 10/12/2007, -10/+24 NiGHTSChao
The problem here is that the very same people who are posting about manufacturing problems or 'its only a few units' or whatever other excuse are the very same people who came down hard on the Xbox 360 when a few units failed during its launch.
So events that 'Prove MS can't do anything right' are the very same events that Sony needs to be forgiven for That is just plain ***** - endekks, on 10/12/2007, -8/+21Let's give it a few weeks to a month to see how many of them die – and then find out why it happened. A few crashes on ANY hardware are always to be expected and not necessarily a reflection of bad manufacturing on the whole.
I do clearly remember MANY 360's dying within the first couple of months of the system's launch. In fact, I personally know no fewer than five people who had to return their systems: one in Osaka, one in Tokyo and several friends who live just north of DC (who probably got faulty units from the same batch). I managed to escape any hardware malfunctions.
But I wasn't so lucky with my original Xbox. I was working at a game development company in Rockville / Bethsoft Maryland at the time and received one at the annual Christmas party. Apparently, quite a few units had shoddy optical drives in them – the Thompson drive. Many many MANY people who had this particular drive had their Xboxes become giant black bricks because the drive gave up the ghost within 6 months of use, enough to where there was a class action suit against MS.
And even if a system crashes regularly, that doesn't mean there is a hardware issue - or necessarily even user error. I treat my 360 with kid gloves, but that doesn't stop the R& demo from crashing often just after I start playing a level. That doesn't stop Gears of War from freezing or locking up my system at random times. Sometimes it can be a game's fault when the hardware crashes.
The fact of the matter is, if a person here or a person there meet with hardware failures, it should be expected – at launch or ANY time. This is not a remark to excuse poor manufacturing, but merely a realistic assessment that just because a few people have issues doesn't mean we need to equate it with some pandemic issue a huge batch of users will face.
But I guess fear and negative conjecture are more fun, right? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12All he needs to do is take the game out and blow on it till he passes out. It always worked for NES.
- Kahnza, on 10/12/2007, -10/+21I think its funny all the bad stories we have been seeing about the PS3. Sad thing is, a friend of mine just got a Wii and it died after less than 5min. So he returned it and got another one. That ones working so far.
- Philodox, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15Is there going to be a story submitted for every time a PS3 stops working? I certainly hope not or digg is going to suck pretty hard for the next few weeks.
- Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -13/+22so where are the wii stories?
I get the feeling there will be more of these to come (hell if it took 1/2 hour for the first one, imagine what a few days will produce)
then again this could be a very unlucky one off - shmatt, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14dude. nobody cares.
- deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12"It's mass-produced electronics."
It is possible to mass-produce (in the millions) with very low failure rates and long lifetime.
Intel is -famous- for this, and it's the reason they dominate their respective markets.
It is -also- possible to design a limited lifetime into products so that customers will buy new products every few years.
Apple (with iPod) and Sony (with most of it's enrty level products) are famous for that. - ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -14/+22Show me 100 and you've still got a 99.99 success rate for quality control.
- Alucard90, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8One of the problems is that Sony is using many unproven hardware components such as cell processor and Blue Ray. Neither have been used very long and are bound to run into problems. Even the sensors in the Wiimote have been used for a while in 3d mice used in corporation meeting rooms.
- dimension128, on 10/12/2007, -15/+21Why do people keep defending Sony with the "but its the first run" argument?
So what! They have had since ps2 to be planning, developing, and testing the ps3.
Yes maybe the specific hardware used wasn't available back then, hence the inclusion of the word 'planning'. But the point is, Sony knew when they wanted to have the system ready, there in the business of gaming consoles, they know what is required to have them ready.
But something else they know, people are going to be blind enough to actually accept their poor quality and failures. So they take advantage of the situation, and lo-and-behold their correct. - mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12I do not exactly like the PS3 - but - I never had problems with my 2 regular xbox's, PS2, Gamecube, or 360. I think its usually the fault of the user, such as putting the console inside a closed environment or, for instance, turning it vertical from horizontal while running. All products have failures but seriously, why sit here and bash the PS3 when the majority of you don't even have one. Why don't we just stop buying nvidia cards all together because of the 7900GT problems, or stop buying ATI because they can barley ever hard launch and have no linux drivers.
"They have had since ps2 to be planning, developing, and testing the ps3."
They cannot cover ever possible scenario, and more often than not if they see an action that would mess it up, they include it in the instruction manual - but alas, nobody reads it and their console breaks.
"But something else they know, people are going to be blind enough to actually accept their poor quality and failures."
ALL, ALL, products have failures. Its such a minority, same with the 360 it is irrelevant. I guess I was so blind buying a 360 at launch to realize its failures aswell right? It was failing so much - IT NEVER CRASHED - I was able to play oblivion and COD2, whenever I wanted for however long I wanted. I think you are the one whose blind to lump defects in the the majority. - archiesteel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6All consoles, from all manufacturers, are buggy at launch. It was true for the PS2 and Xbox. It was very true of the Xbox360 (overheating, scratched disk). It will also be true of the Wii.
I wonder how many of the anti-PS3 posters here are legit, and which ones are astroturfers? - Chesh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If he bought it from Best Buy he was probably forced to get no less than 36 warranty's, so he's probably in good shape. ; )
- EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10It's obviously only anectdotal but I've been by the Sony kiosk at Wal-mart twice and the PS3 has been locked up both times. The only other time I saw one was at a Gamestop--also locked up.
- cbreaker, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10I don't. It was a risk they took. They will get a new unit; Best Buy or Sony will replace it. They could return it for a full refund and wait for more, or they could send it off to Sony. Either way they'll still get another one before a lot of us can get our hands on our first one.
- EasY_TargeT, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6anyone know what batteries are in the controllers?
- tendonut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I am a Wii fanboy, but lets not count our chickens before they hatch. It's only be out for 13 and a half hours......I haven't had any hardware related issues yet...just their overworked update server
- Bitgod, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I want to hear about every PS3 issue, if only to show it's like most every other console with their own issues. I don't recall many issues with Saturn and Dreamcast though.
- mrgeekguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5My Coleco Pong still works, anybody wanna play?
- dimension128, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Its more likely that Mr. Tony will accept returns than Best Buy or Walmart.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Wouldn't it suck to wait in line three days only to find out the gen I console has bugs? It would be depressing to have to admit your game platform wasn't worth the hype.
It's really too early to make judgments from one story. Time will tell if it's the rule or an exception. - psylence, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Had it for a couple days and only one lock up, and you're happy about that. Long time Sony customer?
- shmatt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7You have no proof of that. i never bashed the xbox, even though it deserved some criticism at launch as well.
Fact is, this is a non-story. - sdwilly, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@Dimension128
So you are saying that they should have 100% of them work? I guess you have never owned a single piece of electronics, failures will happen you can plan and test all you want they will still happen. That's not even taking into account for all we know what the shipping company did to his unit, for all we know it was bounced around like a drunk chick on prom night. - tendonut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@Murdats
I haven't seen any Wii complaints yet, but what I AM going to complain about with mine is the fact that it seems Nintendo's update server is having a hard time with all the connections it is getting. It took me like 15 tries to get the damn update to come down, and that is required to use the VC and maybe the Opera browser, if that is indeed what it is downloading. Took a while, but the second part is downloading now. - Spo8, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I don't remember every single positive story about the 360 being dugg down, and every single negative one dugg up like crazy. There's just so much Nintendo bias right now, it's insane.
- JimV, on 10/12/2007, -11/+14"this is one unhappy PS3 consumer."
No *****. - maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@ktan
People didn't over react if you looked at the official numbers, using a very large data sample. About 20% of all the initial Xbox 360's had some significant defect, with 9% or so being DOA. I mean honostly, dead on arrival, will not work before you even turn it on. The rest had something else wrong whether it was overheating, damaging disks etc.
20% is not overreacting that kind of "quality" product release is absurd and MS deserves all the crap they got over it.
As a note, 20% of Sony's current 500,000 consoles out would be 100,000 systems. I don't think one guy, and one console who posts a youtube video makes up 100,000. But we'll know for sure by the end of this week. - n3tfury, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3so we can expect issues with the HD-DVD drive too then for the 360?
- Chrysalid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5And this is why you get dugg down for your troll'ish commentary.
PS. Please consult your doctor. Your Caps Lock Syndrome is getting kinda nasty. - LowFuel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Cool - I'm looking forward to every PS3 problem every user encounters making it to the front page on Digg.
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