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- AdonalFoyle, on 02/13/2009, -6/+214REMOVE SHOUTS PLZ
- Lapper, on 02/12/2009, -9/+173Digg doesn't exactly have the best record for rolling out changes that stop power diggers in their tracks, but hopefully this will do some good.
- nichesiteexpert, on 02/13/2009, -32/+150I can build you a Digg clone right now! Just pull RSS feeds from:
Wired
Xkcd
Cracked
HuffPo
NatGeo
NewScientist
Pull in a couple of random sites for good measure, and then add some retarded comments. Voila! Instant Digg clone.
Digg is dead - mbfielding, on 02/13/2009, -12/+124I'll believe when I stop seeing MBM stories.
- akchrs, on 02/13/2009, -23/+110I'd like to see a huffingtonpost filter.
- membership, on 02/13/2009, -7/+89yes, especially MBM stories with 1000 diggs on the front page that I submitted 2 days earlier (that was this morning):
1000 diggs for BabyMan
http://digg.com/travel_places/Camera_on_a_sushi_co ...
... 2 diggs for me
http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Camera_placed_on_a_Sushi ... - Tyrghast, on 02/13/2009, -3/+78Know how to fix the algorithm? get rid of the shout and friend systems.
- jonstewart24, on 02/13/2009, -4/+72At least this wasn't submitted by a power user :]
- gamebittk, on 02/13/2009, -14/+71They finally convinced MC Hammer to take a look at everyone's stories.
- BDOUG, on 02/13/2009, -3/+51I wish when you "blocked" a user you didn't have to see their submissions, either. It seems to only block their comments, which it really only grays out. How about a full & true block option so that person is invisible and no longer exists in my tiny little universe?
- perrym, on 02/13/2009, -7/+48any chance of sorting out a filter for the blogspam yet? huffpo, gawker, etc
- dbossnirvana, on 02/13/2009, -3/+38At least they're pretending to do something.
- inactive, on 02/13/2009, -1/+35You guys fail to understand that it's not a better title, but the fact that MBM has a ton of friends who digg everything he submits. When he submits an article he pretty much gets an automatic 100+ diggs which puts him in upcoming where his story will be noticed by others and then will probably be frontpaged a few hours later.
- pingpants, on 02/13/2009, -5/+38You had me at "We keep the Digg algorithm behind this door."
- serif69, on 02/13/2009, -3/+35This would be better if it had been submitted by MrBabyMan, d2002, or badwithcomputer.
- DelMonte, on 02/13/2009, -7/+39You completely miss the point.
The problem is (or was?) that a minority of users are controlling what reaches the front page. Sure some of what's submitted by them is good, and it wouldn't change a thing if it was submitted by someone else, but there are plenty of interesting stories that the majority of digg users would love that don't make it to the front page because the power-users didn't stumble on it or didn't bother to submit (or didn't get paid to submit).
Having a minority of people that can put almost whatever they want on the front page is opening doors to abuse by some site/blog owners who can pay power-users to put their article on the front page and make a lot of money with ad revenue, usually with content they stole on some other site. - vsujohn2, on 02/13/2009, -3/+35And was also submitted by a non-power user hours earlier.
"Totally original, I swear!" - ryan83189, on 02/13/2009, -7/+37And a weed filter. Every article is the same, every comment is the same, all from the same people.
- IrvineKinneas50, on 02/13/2009, -37/+67This is the part where Digg-nerds make a big deal about the name of the person who submits a story while the rest of us come here to actually find stories and don't really care.
- mmittimm, on 02/13/2009, -12/+39Then why are you on digg? Why don't you just do that?
- stephenpjc, on 02/13/2009, -1/+27don't forget APOD
seriously, I'm intrigued by space as much as the next geek, but c'mon! - membership, on 02/13/2009, -1/+27My comment probably comes across as whiney - wasn't my intent. My point is just that, aside from the worth of the content, there is obviously something else going on between getting 2 diggs from one user and 500x as many from another.
"You guys fail to understand that it's not a better title, but the fact that MBM has a ton of friends who digg everything he submits."
Exactly. There's hundreds of thousands of users on digg - you shouldn't be seeing the same user over and over again
"if some guy wants to spend all his time finding ***** to entertain me"
...it's more like one person spamming links to digg at random and getting bots to vote for it. - gavintlgold, on 02/13/2009, -4/+29Shh... You don't have to shout...
- techguru2006, on 02/13/2009, -2/+27In the last 8 days, about 270 stories were homepaged in the technology section. 18% of those stories were from arstechnica.com, appleinsider.com, torrentfreak.com. I ***** you not. I actually counted.
- 11oops, on 02/13/2009, -1/+25Well, hopefully they break the pattern with this update and I can finally stop my bitching about the power-users and their blind-digging, outside IM'ing, and submission stealing that is making the frontpage full of goats and other *****.
- benologist, on 02/13/2009, -5/+27This one will for sure. Now the power users will have to add like 100 more friends, and they'll still only be able to digg hundreds of stories a day.
They're *****. - spacebuddy, on 02/13/2009, -2/+23Digg is still Broken.
- Dr3w, on 02/13/2009, -6/+26I'll believe it when MY cat videos and daily telegraph article submissions make it to the front page...
- scratend0788, on 02/13/2009, -3/+21it aint about that at all, its about having ***** stories not get to the front page just cuz of who submitted them.
- artfuldodga, on 02/13/2009, -1/+19i don't believe digg fixed anything, oh and kill shouts... work on dupe detection methods, let users mark dupes, something
- inactive, on 02/13/2009, -2/+19But then How Would MrBabyMan Formed? How article get popular?
- AdonalFoyle, on 02/13/2009, -0/+16i agree with reason @.
- 11oops, on 02/13/2009, -0/+16No, and that's the point. It gets to the frontpage because a poweruser's 200 'friends' blind digg it. At that point, it's on the frontpage and no amount of buries can get it off.
- Archaic1, on 02/13/2009, -0/+15It's good that some attention is being given to the issue, but making Digg truly unbiased towards power users is going to a take a *lot* more than just an algorithm change.
- grungegbunny, on 02/13/2009, -0/+15Anything so 90% of the front page articles aren't the same ten people over and over.
The whole "friends" thing is just a way to legitimize I scratch your back you scratch my back. - inolikeai, on 02/13/2009, -8/+23Good news. I'm sick and tired of seeing AppleInsider dominate stories on the Apple page. They've figured out a way to play the system so that their stories reach the front page. Although they offer some good content from time to time, many of their stories simply provide the SAME information from other sites that have also been submitted to Digg.
Anyone else observe or is sick of the AppleInsider overload? - Plasmatica, on 02/13/2009, -1/+15I wonder if now anyone without any "friends" will be able to reach the front page. Probably not.
- CynicSight, on 02/13/2009, -0/+14Make sure you put The Onion in there and the weekly dose of Zero Punctuation. Cause we wouldn't want to miss those things, right?
- ahhell, on 02/13/2009, -0/+13I say "bull ***** *****".
Take one look at the front page and tell me that it's fixed. - jeremymccurdy, on 02/13/2009, -3/+15The problem is that there's plenty of quality stuff that'll never get near the front page due to power users.
- beelz, on 02/13/2009, -1/+13http://dancejam.com/videos/1054597335-the-secret-d ...
- a2z22a, on 02/13/2009, -4/+15nice to hear things are being done
- FunnyBoyz, on 02/13/2009, -3/+14you forgot
add that Nasa site to the list
then you have 100% cloned digg "home made script"
its not even funny - 11oops, on 02/13/2009, -0/+10Oh please god, no.
- yesplease151, on 02/13/2009, -3/+13looks like every front page story right now is from power users.
Try again... - m3arvk, on 02/13/2009, -0/+9They need way to do instain poweruser!
- jeremymccurdy, on 02/13/2009, -0/+8It'd be nice to have an option for people to submit tags for each article, then have each tag diggable and only the ones with x amount of diggs actually count. Then we'd just need a setting to be able to filter out stories with certain tags in our profiles.
- rhedrick, on 02/13/2009, -2/+10Whatever the algo is, it's crap. It's purely designed to maximize the number of clicks. They can spin it any way they like. It's about the clicks. It's not about fair. It's not about the best content. It's about the clicks.
- drex8, on 02/13/2009, -1/+9That is the reason I don't add friends on Digg. Spam shouting. Previously my shout used to be open to anybody, and I did receive one nice shout from a fellow digger commenting on my profile image. And then when I started commenting more, some diggers added me as friend and just left a ton of drive by spam shouts. So I had to disable the shout system to only to my friends. And since I have really 1 mutual friend, who has never ever spammed me - the shout feature of Digg is potentially of no use to me at all.
And this is the case with most Diggers too. They usually restrict their shoutboxes to their friends..so you cannot random shout them. And they did it, just 'cause of the spam shouts. And if you add those diggers as friends, just to send a shout, you risk getting spammed by their shouts.
Sometimes I get some friend requests. And then I check to see what their friend list is like. If it's over a certain number, and I see a ton of spam shouts in their shout box (which may not be visible sometimes, because of settings), just a fan do they remain. Because I know what their intention is. Add you as friend and send you shouts, requesting you to digg their story.
I come here on digg to spend time, to read news, relax and comment garbage stuff (like this stupid one for example) ..and I'm not going to ruin it, attending to some stupid spam shouts.
Digg probably had a good intention when they introduced this feature. They thought that diggers would interact, and you know..whatever. But unfortunately, some diggers in the community found a way to game the system. And now practically anybody or everybody uses it to send digg request shouts. Now it's just a joke..compared to its true intention. - Barbarino, on 02/13/2009, -1/+8filter please...
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