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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17And because Google has the same legal backbone and financial strength that Universal does.
It would be the never-ending lawsuit, Google can do well with their negotiation strength. Youtube got lucky.. - TheWalkingDude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8YouTube doesn't seem to give it much effort; it's only when something is brought to their attention. I'm wondering when someone will go after Dailymotion (French YouTube). Dailymotion doesn't have the 10 minute time restriction, and people have started uploading entire series of shows then opening websites that index them and profiting off of web ads. I love being able to watch American shows, but uploading an entire series and profiting off of it seems reckless.
It's too bad entertainment corporations couldn't offer their videos online and just keep commercials in like television. The problem is they won't agree on one source for hosting them, they would want people to register accounts to watch, they won't allow YouTube style of streaming (where people with slow connections can pause them and wait for it to load all of the way before watching), and they realize it is more profitable to just sue everyone.
Copyrighted videos? I don't know what your talking about: http://digguser.blogspot.com/ - ifonly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Instead it’s two smaller players - Bolt.com and Grouper - that face the wrath of Universal’s lawyers and a possible $150,000 in damages for every infringement.
Per every infringement?!
One word: OUCH! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7even if it is because of googles army of lawyer ninjas, Bolt and Grouper need a good sueing to get rid of some of their offending content. Right now I could point you to several full length movies on Bolt that were reported a week ago
- chrisu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I think its more likely because the music corporations don't want to get dragged into an expensive legal battle with Google.
- Portside, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6That's ridiculous. There's no way Universal lost $150,000 on every copyrighted video that's up there.
(il)legal profiteering at it's best. - unloud, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6This is because Youtube makes efforts to take down infringing videos quickly while Grouper and Bolt have left full videos up for weeks at a time before (and still now).
- ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Dailymotion was the only chance for me to see 'Rome'. Now, I'm planning to buy the DVD collection when it's released in Europe.
- scuzzphut, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Here's what I don't get.
* Music videos are made to promote bands and albums
* More airplay (even if it's on youtube) equals more exposure
* Nobody actually BUYS music videos. They buy the CD that the song is on.
Where is the loss to Universal? - Aharoni, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Does anyone really think Universal is suing Grouper and bolt because "it hurts their business"?
Nope. They're suing them because:
A. Grouper is owned by Sony (and Sony pictures, direct competitor).
B. Universal signed an agreement with YouTube. This is just a way to hurt the competitors.
This has nothing to do with Universal believing that watching clips online will hurt their sales. Purely a business move... - TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3People should maybe...keep....dailymotion..ya know....on the Dee Low
- diecastbeatdown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2let's see here, google strikes a deal with universal and other companies to allow youtube to broadcast their content but also wants all the competition to suffer. think it's possible?
- ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NET_Act
It's ironically called no electronic theft. - Kolar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I expected them to go after Dailymotions first.
- richiejp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yes because as we all know watching music video's on line makes us less likely to buy music. Also I'm not going to get off my computer to go and watch music TV, I'll just do something else on my computer. Do Universal really expect people to pay to watch music videos when given the choice? Their over glorified song advertisements... well to be fair I might buy something like Tool's videos on DVD given the free cash, but that's after I know what I'm getting.
- IcerC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Now sony will sue youtube... oh geee.
Isn't there a 30 sec rule? You can use a song/video for 30 secs and its fine? - pussyWagon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This was all a timed lawsuit.
If youTube was sued before Google bought them - youTube would basically be brought down with nothing left but a 404 page. Everyone knew youTube was in sell mode so the entertainment companies waited for it to be purchased. youYube needed to be kept alive because eveyone wants the video business model to happen - and where else but on youTube. The rest of the clones will be setup as examples of piracy and copyright infringment.
To scuzzphut: "Nobody actually BUYS music videos"
You buy them on iTunes & Google for 2 bucks a pop. The comapnies see these as content now, not promos. Just wait - in a few years we will be paying for movie trailers. - unloud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"it's only when something is brought to their attention."
That's my point though. They act when something is pointed out to them. I've never seen Bolt or Grouper act and there's no way that movie companies wouldn't have notified them at the rate which movies have shown and stayed on there lately. - happyfappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They want to set a precedent with this. Bolt is a much easier target than Google.
- shreky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Could it also be that because of youtube's popularity it would be really bad for universal to sue them.
The minute universal sues youtube the entire copyright problem and **AA illegal tactics would be in the mainstream media for the first time. The average citizen would learn of what these co-operations have been doing. This would put a major blackeye on them and finally put an end to the practice. - ThirdPrize, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just as the Lion singles out the lame Gazelle, so do record and film companies.
- mtmal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They're suing Grouper et al, then they'll take any ruling or settlement agreement and assert it against YouTube. That way Universal avoids a big fight against Google and still gets the precedent it wants.
- HiFi613, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you were universal.. what would you do?
be honest.. if you paid for something to be created.. would you want others making $$$ off of it and not you? - zephdotorg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sony buys Grouper, receives kick in nuts for their troubles. Battery explosions, PS3 delays, DRM rootkits, lawsuits -- Sony's businesses are getting bonked so much that they're beginning to look like the moles in Whack-a-Mole.
- msikma, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Well, sure, but it's partially also because Universal Music is afraid to pick on someone of its own size.
- khyberkitsune, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Universal Studios has been around FAR LONGER than some frikkin software company, pal. Go check the creation dates of each company.
- iAlex, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1This sucks. These big idiot companies are suing companies so they have to close or lose millions of dollar. ***** you Universal I will not buy anything from you idiots!
Universal, you steal the name from Universal Software: http://www.universal.com/
Hope you will get sued!
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