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- Godric, on 10/12/2007, -24/+123"Your education is inadequate"
I must have over-slept when they covered that in Blowing ***** Up 101. - sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -12/+70Detriot?
- boberthepker, on 10/12/2007, -12/+59Your education is inadequate...a 700 ton bomb means that it has the explosive force of 700 tons of of TNT, not that the bomb itself weights that much...also rtfa because the article states they are going to put the bomb in a tunnel and blow it up, not drop it from the air.
- v0id, on 10/12/2007, -0/+45i hope somebody follows up with pics
- JackDoyle, on 10/12/2007, -4/+43I could think of better places to test it.
- whitehouse78, on 10/12/2007, -12/+47yes?
- matthewsr2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28a mushroom cloud forms when almost any type of compact explosive is used.
the mushroom shape is formed in the following steps:
1. the explosion produces massive amounts of gas at high pressures, which try to escape the blast area as quickly and effortlessly as possible.
2. in the rush for the gasses to "get the hell out of dodge" they create a low pressure area (king of a partial vacuum. . .) in the center of the blast area.
3. to fill this vacuum the gasses rush back in from the surrounding area, and when they meet in the middle, the path of least resistance is UP.
this is the standard explosion, implosion, explosion model.
on a lighter note, gee I'd love to see that thing blow. . . - speel, on 10/12/2007, -24/+52north korea sounds good to me xD
- ArmandoM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26Many years ago at one of those "stadium of fire" type Independence Day events they do in college football stadiums, some promoter got the bright idea of wiring up 1 million firecrackers to explode simeltaneously.
They had that entire half of the stadium cleared, the firecrackers were at in the goal area. We were seated in the stands, behind the opposing goal area, and in addition to a large (ok, maybe not in comparison to a nuke) mushroom cloud, we felt an intense heat wave rush past us.
One of the niftiest things I've ever seen in my life. - pseudo.hero, on 10/12/2007, -3/+29"We're also making sure that Las Vegas understands,"
What happens in Vegas, stays in vegas... - MichaelDaley, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27We're setting a good example for North Korea. Maybe if everybody in California coughs simultaneously then they won't notice.
- pmcall221, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25If you take one of those rolls of firecrackers (1000 or so in a roll) and not unwind it, they go off pretty quickly and create a mushroom cloud. A small one about 2 ft. in diameter but a mushroom cloud none the less.
- captaindan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23I'm not entirely sure about this, but I assume that the Russians (like us) have seismometers to detect large explosions. Something to do with the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, I think. It's better for us to tell them, instead of them seeing a spike on a graph and freaking out.
Sorry this is so vague. I don't really know what I'm talking about. :-) - iSEPIC, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23RTFA - it said the largest conventional weapon, meaning NON nuke, they got a little smarter since the 60s I guess (see the hills have eyes).
- rotten777, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21or some hd video with sound. i can't imagine the real life experience.
- pyrix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21When you think about it in terms of explosive power, 700 tons isn't that huge compared to what a nuclear weapon is capable of. 700 metric tons is 0.7 of a kiloton.
In contrast, a typical Minuteman or Peacekeeper ICBM packs 300 - 400 kilotons apiece. ( http://www.cdi.org/issues/nukef&f/database/usnukes.html ) This thing isn't even yeilding a full kt. The magnitude of comparitive explosive power to a nuke is astounding. - loveandrockets, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20During the Iraq war (the last one) the US decided to drop a DaisyCutter on top of some stronghold--I think to clear the area of foliage. The person in charge neglected to inform the Brits, who were in the area. The Daisy Cutter went off and shook the ground and sent a mushroom cloud into the sky. The Brits could be heard on the radio: "THE CRAZY BASTARDS (us) DROPPED THE BOMB!"
- Mesach, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20Here in AMERICA we consult google before making an ass of ourselves... you must be from Texas
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2005-09,GGGL:en&q=how+many+tons+in+a+tonne - geekchic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15...in other news, a world record domino toppling attempt planed to occur in Las Vegas in a few months time have been forced to find another venue ;)
- ronintetsuro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16That's absolutely what this is about.
"Hey Red China, check this out!"
*accidentally knocks California into the ocean*
Oops. Hang on folks, FEMA is inbound... - Kitsune818, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Well, those are modern weapons.. Fat man and Little boy were about 20 Kton each. .7 Kton of conventional explosive is still tremendously huge, however. Consider the "bunker buster" "daisy-cutter" is about 1 ton. My only personal experience with the after effects of conventional bombing was a visit to Point D'Hoc in Normandy, where the craters from B17/Lancaster bombings and some artillery are still there. Most of the craters there are about 30 ft in diameter and maybe 15 - 20 feet deep. I believe those were 500lb to 1000lb bombs. Not sure. At any rate, they turned hardened concrete to splinters and dust when they hit home.
- cptpike, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Maybe it will create a new race of super heroes
- XSforMe, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17"north korea sounds good to me xD"
Not a good mark, they actually DO have WMD there. - Windsinger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Eating regularly at McDonalds will give you HUGE ASS EXPLOSIONS...
- lannybudd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Pikers. I was in the Las Vegas Convention Center when the perchlorate plant blew in 1988. The largest explosion was estimated to be two kilotons. It rocked the house. We were inside, miles from the plant, and I could feel the compression wave in my lungs as it raced past. Tiles came down, a couple of those big segmented doors shook out of their tracks. Big column of black smoke in the sky. Good times.
- simp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Notifying the russians is a left over from the coldwar. To make sure that they do not misunderstand it for a nuke and push the button. Read up on MAD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction
- deut, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15It's obviously gonna be used in Iran at some point in the near future to take out the bunkers housing the enrichment facility.
- Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I stand corrected. Now can somebody tell me what the hell 'Strake' means?
- DEFSMAC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10if you're still alive send a me a postcard with a picture of the mushroom cloud.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17Hey I live in a suberb of detroit. No one lives IN detroit though. Except for bums.
Mmmm.....explosives..... - FlyingAvatar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Because not many other countries have detections systems that tell them when large weapons are detonated (like we and the Russians do).
- hansonc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Nice made up "fact"... here's your sign.
- Kitsune818, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Hiroshima/Nagasaki Nuclear weapons were equivelent to ~20,000 metric tons of TNT.
This weapon is equivelent to about 7 metric tons of TNT
Smallest nuke the US has ever produced was about 10 tons of TNT
A "daisy cutter" bunker-buster bomb is ~1 metric ton of TNT
The largest bomb ever detonated was the Czar Bomba, equal to around 50,000,000 metric tons of TNT. (it was capable of 100,000,000.) - SideshowBob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Great quote:
"We have several very large penetrators we're developing," he told defense reporters.
Heh. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8...but do they vibrate?
- charge, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9How about you tell all these government websites that they spelled it wrong. Oh wait, it's supposed to be ‘Strake.’
http://budget.state.nv.us/clearinghouse/Notice/2006/E2006-222.pdf
http://herbb.hanscom.af.mil/tbbs/EBO/031606.txt
http://www.ees.lanl.gov/news/archive_july_sep_2005.shtml
http://www.eh.doe.gov/nepa/process/jan06chart.pdf - hammerattack, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12@ACalcutt: "i hate thinking like that...but some things in those videos make me think and scare me"
They're meant to scare you. When you're scared, you don't think, you merely react, and your reactions are typically very predictable. That's why people with an axe to grind will dig up, piece together, and present the most unrelated and arcane *****. They want to scare you, so that out of fear, you will give them the support they need (or desire) to accomplish their goals.
That is the essential nature of propaganda. Whether that propaganda comes from the White House, some Washington think-tank, or some fat Hollywood liberal activist hack, it always comed down to circumventing your rational self interest and getting you to do something you wouldn't normally do.
There's a really good book out right now called "Coercion" by Douglas Rushkoff. It examines how people use fear, propaganda, and most of all, symbolism to hack the human consciousness and make people do things they wouldn't do if they really thought about it. You can kind of get the same notions by watching "V for Vendetta" if you aren't do distracted by all the really cool Wachowski Bros. action sequences. - ant1441, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Is this just to open the hell mouth so all the sinning gamblers from Vegas can be punished straight away? ;)
- LoTek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9OK,
a) This story has nothing to do with nuclear weapons, and;
b) I'm not a big defender of American foriegn policy, but Japan and Germany also both had nuclear
weapon programs at the same time. And based on how they treated political and prisoners of
war, I'm pretty glad that the US won the race to be the first to use 'the bomb'
War is bad ... losing is worse! - nicepants, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8*hopes that it airs on live TV*
- Crispin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I want video.
- Bullsnot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Big boom followed by big mushroom cloud, then 15 seconds later...... huge gusher like old faithful springs up and starts filling the dessert with water :).
- rjnerd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7This is far from the largest conventional explosion that the US has tried before. "Minor Scale" (their name) was estimated to use at least 3 times the amount of explosive. (2400 tons of ANFO), with some estimates saying double that amount. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_Scale_(explosion)
- dartmanx, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13And Im sure that there are idiots out there willing to believe whatever they want about the military because learning the truth would damage their fragile little egos.
Like you.
The military is doing as told. Take your problems up with their civilian leadership. - Kitsune818, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Interesting.. The US had/has nukes smaller than this conventional weapon:
http://www.brook.edu/FP/projects/nucwcost/davyc.HTM - ArmandoM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6For mrfish the nonbeliever...
Call whatever you want, but I was there...and apparently so was someone with a camera. :)
http://www.osmond.com/alan/sof.html
(I'm pretty sure that was the same event. If not, they did it again since and I wasn't aware of it. It's been a long time, I don't remember if the osmonds were involved that day or not.) - SixSider, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8No. Just a significantly large explosion will do it.
Heck, if Vegas wasn't ungodly hot in June, I might go to watch - fokuscompany, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7If someone will post a date when this is to be done I will go.
- Scopitone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"We're also making sure that Las Vegas understands,"
Savvy, Vegas?! Stop dickin' around Area 51 or we'll level your city of lights starting with the mighty Excalibur! - affanjam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6they said first week of june
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