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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+64Yay! Now the illegals can go straight from Mexico to Canada and skip us entirely. That will solve our border patrol problem.
- johndi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+52I just hope they don't call it "Interstate 2.0."
- quasipalm, on 10/12/2007, -5/+38How exactly is this different than I-35?
I mean, yeah, it's four football fields wide... But I've driven across the entire country before, and didn't see enough congestion out in the middle of nowhere to justify the interstates that are already there...
Oh my god, I just realized after looking at the map... this is a plot by the red states to end their dependence on the blue coastal states for trade! ;-) If you look at it, this shipping route only really serves Texas, the mid-west, and the non-coastal west. I smell a conspiracy! - zeldafan, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31HA, Take that Canadians!
(I kid, I love you and your backwards hockey playing ways) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+28Satori, you don't know much do you?
Here in Toronto it was 35 degrees celcius today. Because you're probably too ignorant to know centigrade, that's 95 degrees F (HELP! My igloo..)
We don't survive on resources, although they certainly are abundant here (which is a good thing.) If we're a third world nation, I wonder what that says about the USA dollar? There's only a 10 cent difference (conversion= 90 cents USA/1$ CAN).
"Since about 85 per cent of Canada's external trade is with the United States, Canadians are mainly interested in the value of their currency against the United States dollar (USD)"
This third world country helps you guys out a lot..
Jobs? The unemployment rates in the states are much higher, sorry to say.. - spartan018, on 10/12/2007, -8/+29because most of our illegals come from mexico, and because its so easy for them to go from there to here....?
- theone3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Feh. A Massive high speed train network with a car compartment would be far better!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19posted below by The Jeffer:
"This article has got some major problems. Four football fields is 1200 feet. The average highway lane is about 12 feet (http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/paffairs/faq/faq92.htm). Figure in shoulders and medians, and you're still talking 40 or so lanes each way. That is complete and utter bull. I've driven almost the entire length of IH-35 (Minneapolis, MN to Waco, TX) several times, and there is absolutely no way this could be done. The highway passes through many cities where expansion to even half this width would be impossible because of existing infrastructure.
Even if it was possible, expanding the highway to such a ridiculous size would be... well... ridiculous. It would be a traffic engineer's worst nightmare. You think it's tough to make your way across 4 or 5 lanes to get to the exit lane? Try merging 40 lanes over.
Vote this puppy inaccurate." - aptget, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19Change the P in your name to an R.
- byronm, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19US has been doing business with Canada and Mexico even before this road. If you read the website the road has nothing to do with helping those two countries as much as it focuses on breaking US labor unions. I'm not a big labor union fanatic myself but it doesn't take much to put 2 and 2 together and see this is a tax payer paid corporate give away at the cost of HUNDREDS of thousands of jobs and an influx of cheap labor ala reagonomix
- TheJeffer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Agreed. This article has got some major problems. Four football fields is 1200 feet. The average highway lane is about 12 feet (http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/paffairs/faq/faq92.htm). Figure in shoulders and medians, and you're still talking 40 or so lanes each way. That is complete and utter bull. I've driven almost the entire length of IH-35 (Minneapolis, MN to Waco, TX) several times, and there is absolutely no way this could be done. The highway passes through many cities where expansion to even half this width would be impossible because of existing infrastructure.
Even if it was possible, expanding the highway to such a ridiculous size would be... well... ridiculous. It would be a traffic engineer's worst nightmare. You think it's tough to make your way across 4 or 5 lanes to get to the exit lane? Try merging 40 lanes over.
Vote this puppy inaccurate. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Well, if they live in Mexico and work in Canada... boy, that commuting would cost a LOT after a... day.
- gandre, on 10/12/2007, -14/+27Why is it always mexico=illegals here
- quasipalm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15I found more info on this on Wikipedia. It's not quite as sensational (because it's not written by a Swift Boat author like the linked article is -- check it out) and mostly sounds like it's just an extension of I69 down into Mexico.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_69 - neocitron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14imagine missing an exit during rush hour and being stuck on the other 24 lanes accross
- glitch47, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14"The Mexican trucks will cross border in FAST lanes, checked only electronically by the new “SENTRI” system. The first customs stop will be a Mexican customs office in Kansas City, their new Smart Port complex."
They don't get checked until Kansas City?
There's absolutely no way this will be abused for drug smuggling.
Ruh roh, Rhaggy. - LiterateWolf, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17It's called free trade. Read the Holy Books written by Her Holiness Ayn Rand. Using taxpayer money so corporations don't have to spend any of their own is a lame idea. There was a time when corporations were responsibile for themselves but now, Congress gives them free money whenever they ran into problems. And they call poor people "welfare queens".
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10"..NAFTA Super Highway as a 10-lane limited-access road (five lanes in each direction) plus passenger and freight rail lines running alongside pipelines laid for oil and natural gas."
Maybe the 1200-foot wide statistic in the article includes the rail lines and pipelines.. which would be separated by a good amount of space..
apparently it'll be only 10 lanes.. not 80 - LiterateWolf, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16No. Free trade does just that. It's the core idea, really. Lay people off, hire 3rd world folks, and give taxpayer money to rich companies. Sounds a lot like communism in reverse.
- dontbejack, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14What a stupid question. It's the easiest border to cross and the majority of immigrants in this nation are now of Hispanic descent.
- Bensch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10The biggest problem with this is that it's ridiculously inefficient. Want to have the same capacity and higher speed? Build four train tracks, CTC, with signalling for 110mph or more along the same corridor. It'll cost half as much (probably less), be nearly an order of magnitude more energy efficient, and it can be electrified. It'll also be cheaper in labor - a 120 car freight train takes three people to operate, and each of those cars can carry two shipping containers. There is a *reason* that with no government subsidy, the railways still compete effectively with trucks using multibillion dollar taxpayer subsidized roads.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8this definitely sounds completely unfathomable.. i cannot believe that this could possibly be true.. i don't even think there is enough asphalt in the world right now to accomplish this
- WalkerBurgin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Good, so now the mexicans can jump the border and keep going to Canada!
- nkassi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Thanks for that comment CBTF. Seriously it's extremely cheap to get a ticket to visit Canada. Go visit and stop imagining it as a backwards country. Hell Canada is second after Japan when it comes to adopting new technologies. Anyways if the U.S. dollard dosen't go any lower it's not to bad of a trip to shop up there. Plus you get taxes back.
Take the trip and then make comments.
Nic - ShaneApex, on 10/12/2007, -9/+17Oh my god, Bush is building a highway, with the intents to bypass American ports and American workers, and outsource the work to another country.
Um, isn't that like the opposite of what he should be doing? - graemee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Bush's new immigration plan
Ship them to Canada. - speezer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8They just raised the speed limit in west Texas to 80mph.
- dontbejack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9And on top of that, cause millions of people to be laid off, destroy our environment, and blow our tax dollars to hell.
- byronm, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12Welcome to Conservative America where business goes on without you and you thought your voice meant something.
- Woofcat, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13What about US business to Canada and Mexico? Man it works both ways. Take some Economics.
- heresy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Posted by CBTF: "Jobs? The unemployment rates in the states are much higher, sorry to say.."
That is *****. The US is at 4.7% unemployment as of Apr. '06 and Canada is at 6.1% as of May '06. - 45rpm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I don't want some damn 1200 foot wide concrete monstrosity being put into my back-yard. I mean, enough drug runners travel on I35 through MN as it is, but this highway would corrupt and decay the small towns that can't afford to police all the people that are simply passing through.
- NathanLoehlein, on 07/27/2009, -0/+5SENTRI system ftw. No drugs or illegal immigrants in our country, because computers can scan the trucks! http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/weapons/sentri-system-recognizes-people-039691.php
Can we get started on the border wall yet? - vandy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5ya know, the point of the SUPER highway is to not have exits...its a direct shot
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5there is nothing there that would lead me to conclude that it's a fake. i have no idea how you came to that conclusion..
- heresy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9"Theres a vulgar language filter, how about a retard and a racist filter in DIGG 3.0?...I seriously dont want to come to DIGG and read racist ***** like this. Im not Mexican but alot of my friends are, and Im truly getting tired of hearing all this ***** about Mexicans...Just so you know, you wouldnt be living in this "great" country ncalled the USA if laws that are being debated at the moment existed back when the nation as a whole formed."
Ummm...he didn't even say Mexicans. He said "illegals", people who do not belong in the US. Calling him a racist is very rude.
Now this could be considered racist: "Why don't you and your wetback friends all climb in a beat up van and carpool back to Mexico where you can wave the Mexican flag and feel wanted."
:) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11
I realize that most of you don't play football or have stepped on a football field, but a football field is 65 yards wide and I believe the article was referring to the width of a football field and not the length. So, it's more like 780 feet in total and 390 feet for each direction. Remove 90 feet for no traffic use and this leaves us with 300 feet or about 15-20 lanes each way. - YoHisho, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6YIKES! I was hoping this was not true.. but did a little searching and found this article
http://www.dot.state.tx.us/news/001-2006.htm
Looks pretty legit...
I agree with ShaneApex, Bush is screwing over the working class for his rich buddies... We have not heard about this because he is afraid to set an even lower all time record on the approval ratings.. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7
Guys, don't blame satori3000. He was raised and schooled in a trailor home and as such knows only the life and laws of the trailor park. - Hickeroar, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I have my doubts that this is true.... Sounds like someone just wants to draw traffic to me...
- scsikool, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I don't have a problem with it as long as there are no offramps between San Antonio and Winnipeg.
- Trecherus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I hope they set aside a large budget for signs. They are not going to be able to keep the I-69 signs up. Every college kid will have an "I 69" sign in their dorm room.
- loveandrockets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This will be a private highway I believe. Only special trucks will be allowed on the highway.
- redsrule2500, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11That's the plan!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5True- but how does that = third world?
Also, the temperatures here are about the same as NY, etc. Not saying it's paradise, as you know.. the winters are killer. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Digg is never usually libertarian, it's usually leftists that feel any platform is appropriate for their agenda, even digg, a science and technology site.
True libertarians recognize that artificial restrictions on the movement of labor are just that, artificial, and wrong.
You can't expect some made up border to protect your lazy ass from losing its job to a harder working Mexican. - steve23063, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11redsrule2500 most illegal immigrants ARE from mexico you moron
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/31/illegal.immigration/ - enderu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Those were my thoughts exactly. I can't speak for the rest of the country, but most people in MN enjoy nature, and this monstrosity would be nothing but a scar on our state.
- Bensch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Actually, that's part of why wider highways are so much less efficient per lane. Multiple lane changes drastically reduce capacity.
- dragonopolis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What a waste of transportation money. We have a serious lack of Public Transportation in the U.S. When I was training soldiers to drive military vehicles a lot of the people from the New York almost never had a drivers licenses. They said they didn't need it. Wow! you won't find to many cities with public transportation like that. I wonder, if personal vehicles were taken out of the picture how would people get around. My suggestion get a bike for local areas but weather is a big factor with bikes. Hot Humid weather and you better bring a change of close. Wet or cold icy weather sucks too. What if you need to travel to different cities? How about traffic congestion? Would more people live in small rural towns if bullet trains stop in these areas. Europe and Japan have excellent transportation compared to the US with many rural areas that people could live and do not travel far to get fast public transportation out of the city. Amtrak you say. Amtrak is a Joke. I think it was easier for people to travel city to city in the Old West than today in the U.S without a vehicle. We here in the U.S rely to much on Personal Transportation. I'm not saying that we should get rid of Private transportation. I think people would be surprised on the number of people who would give up owning a vehicle if they could get around town without the need of a vehicle. I'm a non-tradition college student or in other words I take care of two children while attending college. I'm getting tired of paying for yearly state fees and the rising cost of car insurance. I tire of fixing my used car or paying someone to fix it. I could get a new car but new vehicles are two expensive and the small eco cars are not built to last/impratical to use (If I forking over more than 12,000 it better do more than shuffle people around and last forever). I know my situation is not the same as everybody but there are plenty of other situations/reasons people would use public transportation. Single Soldiers in living in the barracks had plent of money to buy a maintain a vehicle and most do. However, you would be surprised at the amount of single male soldiers that choose not to own a vehicle. I know single - no children - college students that would choose not own a vehicle if other options were present but it usually isn't the case. Some people would say that you have to have a car for somethings. I disagree. We say this because we live in a World dominated by Private Own vehicles. I travel once a month to the Big City (which is over a hundred miles) I'm not going to drive my beat up 97 chevy truck all the way there. Luckily for me some business minded person saw the need for rental vehicles and convince Enterprise rent a car to open up shop here. I just rent me a nice vehicle for the day and off we go. I wonder if more kids out here would go to college if there was a cheap way to get to one. Not everybody likes Big Cities or large Colleges but unfortunately to afford to live and travel in the U.S. you got to make some money and the wages are just better in large Cities. Putting a Huge Freeway down the center of the U.S. isn't going to solve any transportation problems but create new ones. What we need is fast cost effective public ground transportation that can compete with our dying expensive airline industry and public Road system. Thumbs down on this Super Highway.
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