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- plamoni, on 10/12/2007, -20/+65yup, find it at http://hypochondriac.google.com
... - trylleklovn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Because if everyone should point out that they find this interesting, the digg function might as well be removed and news could be rated by amount of comments instead.
Find this interesting? Digg it.
Got a comment that applies to this story, questions it, or something similar? Comment. - Daniel591992, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25because most digg users are always in a bad mood :(
- Lomi, on 10/12/2007, -35/+52Everybody knows cancer was designed by the US government to kill off all the sinners.
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -9/+25why mod him down? He's right. My doc is always bitching about those people comming in because they got on-line and tried to find out what they have and think it's some horrible sickness thats going to kill them in a month...
- SouthernDigger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10online health stuff is a tricky topic because someone may be self-treating for something that is actually a more serious condition. On the other side, if done correctly, it just cuts out the doctor and saves you a lot of money. Hopefully people can determine when it is appropriate to self treat and when they need to go the the doctor.
- DrDigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I would consider 4 years of college, followed by 4 years of medical school, followed by at least 3 years of supervised residency training a little more than "a series of specialized education steps". There are also nationwide standardized tests during medical school (USMLE 1 and 2), during residency (USMLE 3), and then Board Certification exams (my require renewal every 10 yrs), plus state required continued medical education hours every year to maintain your license.
BTW if most doctors don't know the "latest research studies and information out there on disorders.. (I.e. multiple sclerosis link to mercury toxicity, and omega-3 deficiency)" is because most of that research is flawed. Most doctors have been burned in the past by new fads and new drugs. When the good research comes in on this stuff the treatment (or disease link) doesn't pan out.
The key is that everyone should be a skeptic consumer. Check up on the advice your doctor gives you, and check up on the advice you get from some self help book. - alandd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You are not considering the middle ground. I don't research health issues in order to eliminate the need for a doctor. I do it to participate more fully in my own treatment. For example:
- If I know the terms the doctor is using, we can get to how they apply to me instead of what they mean.
- If I know the possible causes for something, we can talk about the possibilities to make sure nothing is missed.
- If Internet research shows that the doctor needs a record of my symptoms or my activities or diet or whatever over time, I can start doing that BEFORE I see him to get a head start on the treatment.
- By knowing the right questions to ask I can actually have a meaningful discussion and longer time with the doctor instead of "fast food medicine" that results in a prescription for me without knowing why.
Now, I must say that I try not to circumvent the doctor nor come across to him as if I know and he doesn't. My purpose is not to annoy but to self-educate and communicate better with the doctor. I am the student and he the teacher. That means I must do my homework. - DrDigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Also, just because you know something about Omega-3 that your doctor may not know, doesn't mean that the rest of the advice that they give you is wrong or uninformed.
I agree with you that people are on too many drugs, and I think that prescription medications should not allow to advertise to the general public. It increases the cost of the drug (advertising) and it increases the use of the medication when a cheaper (not advertised drug) may be available. You wouldn't believe the number of people who demand the latest drug that comes out ignoring the cheap older alternative that has been around for decades. My favorite is the people who request epogen because they feel tired (never mind that they don't have chemo induced anemia or renal disease leading to anemia). - haochi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Keywords, flu, pain, cancer, poison ivy, allergy, ache, *ache,hair loss, and more.
- tenchiws, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5You are extremely wrong Tiabin. My mother is a doctor and she has to go through regularly scheduled tests covering the latest in medical practices. If she doesn't pass the test, she loses her license and thus her job. Doctors have to keep up with the latest, simple fact.
- MikeF74, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They're just asking for a lawsuit. Seriously, there will be some person somewhere that feels that they were "misdiagnosed" by Google and sue for damages. Just wait.
- kuchino, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4As much as i like google, i Will stick with WEb.MD, they have researchers for years, Google is still new to this project.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"Are you tired?
Tell us why."
Rightly damn so. First page in the search and almost already my health is getting better. - IQ70, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I tried the link on top and it searched for tired. Then clicked on treatment and I got treatment for rectal cancer.
WTH? This is more misleading than anything I have seen even in the tabloids! - MrGeneric, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Needs a lot of work, common slang and synonyms for medical terms don't always get results.
- koregaonpark, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'm on English, it's not working. Just turns up a normal Google Search page.
- ionut, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5More at http://blog.outer-court.com/forum/29834.html , http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2006/05/google-cooperation.html .
- DrDigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well if you expect your doctor to be up to date on every bit of health information, you are easily going to be disappointed. There is just too much information for a person to master.
- bjtitus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It's not as good as kosmix:
http://kosmix.com/ - CoolJammer00, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4one small step for hypochondria
- xcalibre, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Now Google wants to add our medical history too to their records?
- johndi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Most doctors know what they are talking about, but are hampered by HMOs. I say most because the Army doctors are trained to treat symptoms, and to make no diagnosis. When they finally did put a name my cough they misdiagnosed it as bronchitis. The funny thing is a doctor who barely spoke English got it right through a translator, sinusitis sucks! BTW: He speaks English well now, and is one of the doctors I trust most.
- brandizzle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4While you might know more about certain subjects than your doctor does you're most likely fooling yourself (or you're just a plain genius) if you think you know more than him about everything. While it might be okay for you to realize you don't have to go to the doctor for a flu and that you do have to go when your hand falls off, most people don't realize that. They either go every time they sneeze or never at all.
Telling the people that never go at all that they're doing a good job won't do anyone any good...they're just going to keep putting off going when the doctor could probably make life a lot easier for them.
Plus I don't see how you link obesity to independence from doctors (in fact most doctors will recommend you to a gym if the notice you're overweight). Or how you think everybody should just start teaching themselves what the doctors learn in 10 years is a good idea. That's what specialization is for...it'd be great if we all knew everything but we don't.
Remember...you're probably smarter than most people. Not everybody should be trusted to diagnose themselves because they'll probably do it wrong. - sadler121, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"We are the Borg...We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated."
- cryonix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ok im not sure whats so special about the link... its just a search for "Tired". Ive tried this with other medical key words along side a "normal" google (not this http://64.233.167.99/search?q=tired&btnG=Search whatever link) and get the same results. again, whats special about this? it doesnt seem to work any different than normal google.
- Th3_anOmoLy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1People should go to doctors and explain symptoms. To which the trained medical professional submits a diagnosis and treatment.
People shouldn't go to the doctor with a diagnosis and assigned treatment becuase they googled symptoms.
just my opinion - JC4P, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1When I did it when it wasnt on front page, it would show like "Treatment, causes" and more above the reutrned results.
- godmode, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2sweet they can treat my gynecomastia
- mjaleo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Fairly unimpressive... Just searches again for whatever you click.
Doctors get driven insane by people who have self-diagnosed on the internet. If you're really sick, go see your doctor, not Google... - CoreBurn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Probably the same type of people who would sue business for their coffee being hot... or burgers making them fat... people who abuse and waste the legal systems time for profit and attention. They deserve to be misdiagnosed.
- majorgeneralist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The search worked great! My wife is headed in for an EMG. three-letter acronyms are not an easy thing to search for because of all the false positives. The first hit was exactly what we needed.
Thank you Google! - vekron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1At least for me, the same information shows up when you do a regular Google search.
- Daniel591992, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Gotta love that first link :D
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Edit. That site is quite popular!
Read this http://www.slate.com/id/2103823/ - Sgeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1OK..... Sorry to spoil the joke, but try looking up Google's IP.
The address ***IS*** a plain Google search for "tired"
EDIT: Hmm, didn't see http://nico.nfshost.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/search.htm
If, of course, that URL isn't a hoax
A bit like Google Calculator? - Fowz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4interesting...it can only improve with time
- Sgeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That's because it *is* a normal search page
- jasonsbytes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Maybe Google is going to buy Emdeon (WebMD).
- kefs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Amazing!
This site just helped me understand my currently undiagnosed illness which has been affecting me for over 2 mos, landed me on disability, put my life on hold, and pulled me further into debt. Too bad it can't cure me. - elvankoshar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1it's interesting; kosmix was found by the very best friends of larry page & sergey brin duo. And now they're rivaling their best friends!
- truebullfan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Is this supposed to rival WebMD.com? Seems very similar
- doubleYou, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Shortly after that, they partnered with oil companies and the Saudis and changed their focus to the oil industry. They felt that recruiting blacks and other minorities into the army, and then sending those soldiers to fight in manufactured wars would be a good way to both increase oil profits and eliminate more "unwanted" people from their own country.
Jimmy Carter tried to change all that by at least diverting the oil focus to peanut and vegatable oils, but the auto companies had already gotten involved with trying to get Congress to help them sell more cars and successfully kept us from exploring biodesel alternatives. Bailing out Chrysler was proof of the government's connection and loyalty to the industry, however some of this unholy alliance started falling apart and the first thing the Congress did was to sell Chrysler off to the Germans (by pretending to join them to Mercedes Benz of all improbably partners!) so that the secret CIA prison in Germany could "talk some sense" to the executives.
Do the research if you're inclined.
Or make up your own and add your facts to the existing body of research. - cntp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3HORRIBLE idea.....
- keimig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Been playing with Google Health - much to be desired (though I do like).
I think google has a lot to learn from http://www.kozmix.com and even MORE to learn from http://www.healthline.com.
But google does love putting out unfinished products... - txrat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1http://64.233.167.99/search?hl=en&lr=&q=ebola+hemorrhagic+fever+more:medical_establishment&cx=disease_for_patients&sa=N&oi=cooptsr&ct=col3&cd=1
- johndi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I hear lately the government has switched its mind control frequencies so that a tin foil hat will focus the waves instead of blocking them. They are so dastardly, everyone run for the hills! Just make sure it's not the hill they run the shadow government from.
- Torqued, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There is a good round-up of the best of the Google Health speculation as well as a preview of the Google Health functionality (including links and screenshots) over at Nursing Informatics Online @ http://www.informaticsnurse.com
The direct link to the thread is: http://www.informaticsnurse.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12328 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Wow, this site helped Google understand what's wrong with me and now everywhere on the internet I'm seeing the cure in little "Ads by Gooooooogle" blocks!
Don't they collect enough info on people already without needing their ***** medical conditions too? - razorsharp84, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Good old sponsored health advice
- CharlesDarwin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1You people will believe anything.
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