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- Rogem002, on 11/14/2008, -2/+95I think toyota decided to shoot itself in the foot here. I hope the lawyer gets fired for being such a n00b.
- tj111, on 11/15/2008, -9/+76I don't care what you say about Toyota, their new Aygo looks awesome http://i38.tinypic.com/2hyxwfm.jpg
- Junior612, on 11/14/2008, -0/+62From freeculturenews.com:
"Toyota sent DesktopNexus a DMCA takedown notice, telling them to take down all their images. They are refusing to say which images they must take down, and asking them to take them all off."
WTF? - Thuktun, on 11/15/2008, -0/+45http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
"The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it."
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Gilmore - renesisx, on 11/15/2008, -4/+45***** Toyota!
(and the RIAA)
(and the MPAA) - cobracommander, on 11/15/2008, -1/+38These corporate giants need to stop being so stingy and realize that this is helping them more than it is hurting. Nothing like free advertising/brand awareness.
- BinaryFragger, on 11/15/2008, -0/+32Right, great business strategy.
"Somebody likes our products.... sue them!!" - inactive, on 11/15/2008, -2/+33How the ***** could this even harm their business? Incredibly stupid move.
- NicoNicoNico, on 11/15/2008, -1/+22Careful, can't go around spreading images of their brand, they may get you.
(Honestly, this is just stupid. It's called fandom! If the execs don't get that, then their brand deserves to die.) - dafragsta, on 11/15/2008, -1/+22This is why copyright as we know it is wrong. It can't even be fairly interpreted by lawyers in cases which have no precedent of IP ownership. You can't copyright photos you didn't take and you can't stop people from photographing their cars.
- MattS, on 11/15/2008, -0/+18it looked better pixelated
- j1ggy, on 11/15/2008, -3/+20For the same reason I'll never buy another Metallica CD, I will never buy a Toyota.
- Sil369, on 11/15/2008, -0/+16cool theyre seeling lego pixel cars nows
- Ne007, on 11/15/2008, -0/+16yeh...who wants free advertisement anyways....
- stealthspc, on 11/15/2008, -2/+17Just another "I'm a huge company and I can do whatever I please".
***** you Toyota. - GUNIT42, on 11/15/2008, -1/+15That's crazy!! People who use Toyotas as their wallpaper are actually HELPING their brand/image. Toyota should be thanking Desktop Nexus.
- Khast, on 11/15/2008, -0/+12Eh, this is much like Ford's claiming copyright of all images with their vehicles or likeness from a couple months ago.
Corporations don't understand "Free Advertising" very well, do they? - rockon4life45, on 11/15/2008, -4/+16Toyota has fans?
- apexracing, on 11/15/2008, -1/+12Fan loyalty is being punished here. Hello, Toyota, these are the people who buy your cars...
- Chasey, on 11/15/2008, -0/+10that's just stupid of them....
- Sil369, on 11/15/2008, -0/+10expect to see hauls of new toyota wallpapers uploaded everywhere on wallpaper sites just to spite them. gotta love it :)
- nurbsenvi, on 11/15/2008, -3/+11Who the ***** wants to have Toyota wallpaper anyway?
it's like putting up a picture of local accountant on the wall instead of Jessica Alba in bikini.
P.S I drive Camry by the way. - Mandegar0, on 11/15/2008, -1/+9It's the Toyota Way!
- DrLeePhD, on 11/15/2008, -1/+9rabble rabble rabble don't buy toyotas
They just don't make anything I really like right now.
who would want a toyota wallpaper? - Wilarseny, on 11/15/2008, -0/+8You'd best get yourself a good lawyer.
- h377r1d3r, on 11/15/2008, -2/+9It sounds to me like an Apple story, only for motoring, that is full of ***** and full of advertising company that creates image of being cool, reliable, the best you can have, but on the other hand stomps on a little man.
Good thing, that I don't own, and never will own a Toyota vehicle :) - D_Rock, on 11/15/2008, -0/+7Tell Toyota what you think: http://toyota.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/toyota.cfg/php/ ...
- TremorX, on 11/15/2008, -1/+7Every manufacturer has tried this at some point. Recently it was Ford telling members of a Classic Mustang club they weren't allowed to use pictures of their own cars in a club calendar.
It's stupid, but I still love my '83 Land Cruiser. - malanic, on 11/15/2008, -1/+7"all images featuring Toyota vehicles should be removed, even images with copyright belonging to others."
Damned if they can tell you what to do with your own photos. If they don't want their cars photographed, then they should stop selling them, and take them all off public streets. - inactive, on 11/15/2008, -1/+7Toyota is guilty of extortion.
Demanding that the owner of DesktopNexus pay money for Toyota to identify the infringing images constitutes extortion. The owner of DesktopNexus really needs to file a complaint with the FBI for this; I am filled with glee at the idea of Toyota (the worst car company in the world) being charged with a federal crime. - hamobu, on 11/15/2008, -2/+8We really need to redefine ownership as applying only to material possessions. You should not be able to order people what they can do with an image of your product.
- pencilneck, on 11/15/2008, -1/+5Toyota is far from the first to do this kind of stupid *****. VW has done it. Ford tried to stop some "black mustang owner's club" from selling a calender of club member's black mustangs, claiming copyright of the customer's cars.
If there is a fan site, embrace it. I have my doubts any large company has ever lost it's trademark rights due to fan sites. It isn't like the fan sites are passing off bogus parts under the brand name, or trying to mislead people into thinking that said fan site is an official [insert brand here] web site.
Hammering down on clients is not good business. - ACiDGRiM, on 11/15/2008, -0/+4You can delete comments now...
- alpharaptor, on 11/15/2008, -0/+4pics or you don't have one.
lawyer, because you're gonna need one. - zakatov, on 11/15/2008, -0/+4"Honestly, I cannot for the life of me understand why they are the worlds largest auto company."
Same reason Dell is the #1 PC manufacturer: cheap, boring products sell. - netneutrality, on 11/15/2008, -0/+3Tsk. Yet another company using frivolous lawsuits to get the bloggers riled up as a method of viral advertising.
- DestroyFascism, on 11/16/2008, -1/+4People can't make art depicting Toyota products? Are you nuts? has this planet started taking LSD for FFS! Smoking the weed too much? getting a tad paranoid are we Toyota?
Ok everyone take down Art and images depicting Toyota products and put up Nissan and Subaru instead! there ***** you Toyota! - Seidoger, on 11/15/2008, -0/+3Maybe not having a DMCA in the first place..
But yeah, WTF.. - Generik777, on 11/15/2008, -0/+3Yes, Some people from a Ford forum were going to make a calendar for forum members with pictures of their vehicles. Then Ford Got a hold of them and said I don't think so.
- Seidoger, on 11/16/2008, -0/+3I was looking at some of those pictures:
It reminds me of those movie 'FMV's people do on YouTube.. (I hate them a lot as they're stupid most of the time)
They put the picture of the car, and associate it with ton of random stuff, names, events, some that Toyota may not want to be associated with.
I think it's a foolish move too, just playing devil's advocate here. - pak314, on 11/15/2008, -0/+3Why would people buy foreign cars if there were really crappy?
- cobracommander, on 11/15/2008, -0/+3Not news? You must be new to digg.
- slowth, on 11/15/2008, -0/+3Because they hate our freedom?
- NegativeDigg, on 11/15/2008, -2/+5For those who don't know how to look at pixelated images or video, step back about 2-3 feet and make your eyes blurry. Worked for me when they tried to blurr nudity on the girls gone wild infomercials.
- kjd84, on 11/16/2008, -0/+3Because Detroit makes ***** cars?
- javaroast, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2***** Toyota. I checked the details and they are so off on this one it's not even worth discussing.
- inactive, on 11/15/2008, -1/+3I don't see the problem here...a simple solution is to avoid buying a Toyota, Scion or Lexus....ever.
That'll send a clear message.
edit: One more thing...I hate the DMCA, it does not protect copyright holders, it is there to benefit large corporations. - locojones, on 11/16/2008, -2/+4The reason no DMCA takedown notice was issues was because this isn't a DMCA copyright issue, rather, it's a trade identity issue. And this website is profiting from advertising by hosting unauthorized images of the Toyota brand name and logo. And because those identities qualify as famous marks under 15 USC 1125, virtually ANY use not licensed by Toyota will be open to attack as infringing.
And I don't know where this argument that "it's OK to infringe your IP because it's free advertising!" comes from, but it's nothing but a naked rationalization and will get you laughed out of court if raised as a defense. - scoottie, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2if someone buys a toyota and then makes a wallpaper off of that its different then taking a image from toyotas site or some other site and making a wallpaper off of that
- sh4rkb1t3, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2Who would put a picture of a ***** toyota on their desktop, when it's just as easy to get a picture of a cool car?
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