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- boscorelle, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25the MPAA is way out of line -- on this one
- pabster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16The MPAA has been way out of line from the start.
Thank god people are finally starting to stand up instead of bending over. - maczealot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14This lawsuit was filed by the MPAA back in February. So it is kind of old news. What IS new in this link is TorrentSpy's response. So, no offense, but it is not going to be covered by an objective source as it is specifically about a motion to dismiss by TorrentSpy's lawyerbots.
If you didn't know this (google is your friend) here is the original press release from the MPAA:
http://www.mpaa.org/press_releases/2006_02_23.pdf - longman2g, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16ya, it is too over reaching. The search engines do not and cannot review every webpage for content, which makes them not laible for anything done on those sites. If it were possible for the search engine to review all of the pages for content, and then let copyright infringing material be posted, then they would be liable.
- jiub, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13How is this different from suing google because you can use that so search for pirtated material?
- mjaleo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I do believe you're thinking about it too much!
I think that people are just too damn sue happy lately. What ever happened to a good ol' fashioned fist fight?
Oh wait... http://mosnews.com/news/2006/03/23/beatpirate.shtml - sabster, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13Good Luck to them..
- maczealot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Because it is such a SMALL issue in a legal case, it would be like having a full blown news story on the results of the coin toss at the beginning of a sporting event.
Basically it is just saying what we all knew was going to happen: TorrentSpy ain't goin out like that.
What WILL be covered by "larger" and more "objective" (not that there is such a thing) news sources like CNet or Wired perhaps is when the judge makes a RULING or a DECISION based upon this case.
If you STILL don't understand why this is such a non-event please check:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_to_dismiss - VadimKatchkakov, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Is seeming that world today is becomming to be based on intents of the action rather than an action itself. Is world becomming to be less freedom all the way that I must to be fearing the government says it is knowing what I am thinking when I do activities? Who is holiest person to decided my thoughts and intents?
- edrift101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I need to sue Google, Yahoo! and every other search engine for displaying images of my art. They are infringing on my copyrights! F U MPAA!
- hutch113, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The Movie Studios could do something about their exorbitant costs and loss of revenue. Follow the example set by Robert Rodriguez. He has a small team of workers that he almost always works with and uses like 2-3 digital camcorders to record the movies then he edits them himself at his home. He constantly gets the movies done in way under budget. He and Frank Miller together directed Sin City and it was an amazing movie.
The MPAA could figure out that if they cut costs and so that they aren't spending over $50 million per movie and then watch it tank. Even if people weren't stealing the content and were paying for it, the MPAA and the RIAA would still be crying because they would still be losing money. Change how you do business, adapt to the changing world around you or die. - pabster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yeah, I always get a good chuckle out of these "speed tests" over fiber where the number of DVD images transferred is the metric used to express the speed :) You can imagine the looks on the faces of the AA's...
- Zuggy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4This isn't right. The studios covered by the MPAA are suing as many companies and individuals as they can to make up for the losses they incur when they make movies with 200-300 million dollar budgets then don't get that money back in box office sales and video sales. Why doesn't the MPAA face it, 90% of the movies that are made suck. It's not the companies and individuals faults, especially search engines that don't link copywritten material, that hollywood can't make good movies.
The sad part is that the RIAA does the same thing. Instead of releasing new, fresh original music, they release the same cookie cutter ***** and sue grandma's without computers for copyright infringement. - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5One could argue that Google isn't searching specifically for torrents where most are illegal. However, www.bittorrent.com also do these kind of searches, and it's legal!
http://www.p2pcore.com/stories/301.php
It's legal because Cohen has agreed to remove copyright infringing links.
But wait a minute... TorrentSpy does too, in compliance with the requirements of the DMCA about search engines and copyrighted content.
http://www.torrentspy.com/dmca.asp
There's something seriously strange going on here... And that part is why TorrentSpy is taking these actions, actually. - chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4it's not.
just Google have better lawyers and more money to chuck at it.
money to lawyers is like fire to cave people, the more you wave it around the further they run. - ArmandoM, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'm sure if they thought they could get away with it, they'd love to try an intimidation lawsuit on Google. Unfortunately for them, unlike the smaller torrent search sites & such, Google has a ton of money to spend on lawyers too. If both parties were on equal financial footing, as it would be in a case of MPAA/RIAA vs. Google, I believe the courts would side with google. And the **AA knows this, so they don't try.
- casca, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5It's on http://www.techfirm.com
- benthekuno, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3>>I need to sue Google, Yahoo! and every other search engine for displaying images of my art. They are infringing on my copyrights!
I think you are making a joke here, but this has already happened: http://wfrv.com/entertainment/entertainment_story_053094011.html - Cerberus047, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2i say we burn their crops and take their women!!!!!! who is with me!!!
- xaxxon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3So I'm guessing that it does link to torrents that contain copyrighted works. The difference, of course, is that it's not infringing to distribute the contents.
For example, Linux is most definitely copyrighted -- it's just that distribution is allowed under the terms of the GPL.
For some reason people assume that "copyright" is the same as "illegal to distribute". - tryferos, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I just love the fact that the MPAA thinks suing people like TorrentSpy will actually do anything. Sure it could potentially bring down ONE torrent site, but um, yeah, there will always be another site ready to replace it.
Did anyone see the article about the 2 Terabit connection testing? Thats still a long ways off, but whats the MPAA gonna do when stuff like this is in place? Hey, MPAA the internet is getting faster and faster, lets see you stop people downloading movies in minutes instead of hours.... - siouxmoux, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Torrentspy is one better BT tracker sites. I will hate to see them go away. At least there is still Mininova pirate bay for all of your BT needs.
- Ilyanep, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Jeez let's just sue google.
- xaxxon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's a lot late, but Linux is absolutely, most definitely copyrighted. The GPL is a copyright license that allows redistribution under certain circumstances. Copyright is what allows the GPL to work.
If you don't agree to the GPL, you have no right to make COPY(right)S of Linux.
It's just that most people use copyright to completely stop copies, the GPL just uses to allow certain types of redistribution.
Linux is copyrighted everywhere in the (interesting) world. Linux is only trademarked in some places (not in Australia). - Parmon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The many pieces of code that all goes together into making "Linux" are indeed copyrighted. Just that the code is licensed out with very broad allowances
- tidejwe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1OK, I agree that the MPAA is being ridiculous in general, but so are the arguments used by torrentspy in this article. I had to bust up laughing when they claimed they don't link to copyrighted materials. OK, so it's true that it is being done by USERS and not torrentspy employees themselves, but they also claim they have always been making efforts to remove copyrighted file links etc. LOL That's a joke! They even intentionally created specific categories for specific copyrighted movies, and TV shows among other things. You can't tell me they didn't know there were copyrighted files being transferred. Don't misunderstand...I stand by torrentspy! But they can't use ridiculous arguments that will destroy their credibility in court. I say they need to do arguments such as how they can't responsible for what visitors post and do on the site. Is google held responsible for helping people hack, or steal software or figure out how to create bombs?
On the other hand, the MPAA could point out that other websites could get shut down if they didn't moderate their site...I mean if someone starts posting child porn in a forum, the forum mod would have to remove it or get a new roommate named Bubba!
*Sigh* - LouisC, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2i thought the word "Linux" was trademarked, but Linux isn't copyrighted...
- EnricoFermi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The MPAA and RIAA are just so pathetic. Instead of using new technology in order to find new and more creative ways to distribute their content, they get threatened by change and start suing everyone. I bet if they had it their way they would take us back to vhs and casette tapes just to protect their precious business model. I wish they would wake up and start to utilize these new technologies to benefit the consumers instead of using scare tactics to force us all into supporting their increasingly lame, and expensive, movie going "experience" .
- Stri, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1All I gotta say is
MPAA = Cheeky Bast**ds! - method77, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2my friend Mike made a list and posted it over at Beatking when Suprnova and Loki Torrent went down and reguire no registration
http://www.beatking.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9657 - Capuano, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Am I the only one who thinks it's stupid to even try to stop file sharing? I mean, it seems like to do so one would have to get rid of EVERY search engine on the web. That's pretty stupid, considering that search engines are people's portal to the internet.
- maczealot, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3www.torrent-finder.com Covered on Diggnation (great podcast btw).
- dcypher, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Anyone else annoyed by TorrentSpy's new categorization of torrents? Can't find anything anymore. Too bad too. I switched to TorrentSpy after suprnova.org was taken down. Been loyal (mostly) until their recent site redesign. Moved on to larger and greener pastures.
- awakndreamin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1"It will among other things argue it doesn't not link to copyrighted works"
So, it does link to copyrighted works....wait, I am confused - orbitalleader, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4"If you STILL don't understand why this is such a non-event please check:"
1) only losers quote wikipedia like this and 2) yes, IAAL. - mastershake1, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4Is it really that necessary to say whether you Dugg the article or not? I thought the new comment system was supposed to eliminate self-absorbed comments like this. WAAAAAHHHH IT'S A BLOG NO DIGGGGFG!
- bhiggins, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Are you saying that the action of downloading a torrent file does not imply illegal intent?
- orbitalleader, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2"but it is not going to be covered by an objective source as it is specifically about a motion to dismiss by TorrentSpy's lawyerbots."
Why? If the response is newsworthy -- and you can't tell if this one is, because there's little actual information here -- then it would be covered by an objective source. - orbitalleader, on 10/12/2007, -21/+14I'd like to see a little more information from a more balanced site than such a cheerleader for p2p. -no digg.
- newevilmind, on 10/12/2007, -12/+1can anyone recommend a good bitTorrent site to use??
I'm serious btw. - mjaleo, on 10/12/2007, -18/+0(delete)
- en3r0, on 10/12/2007, -25/+1No actualy, bad school internet.
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