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- nevesis, on 10/12/2007, -12/+74I hate these lists.
Computer Software Engineer/Systems Analyst/Computer Programmer is ALWAYS one of the big ones.
What isn't said is that this growth appears to be all going to India, and there is a significant number of unemployed coders in the saturated US market. - picto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+56Hi everybody! My name is Dr. Nick Riviera!
- brandonking, on 10/12/2007, -1/+54So, I want to know more about the 1% of surgeons that have "High School or less" education. Reminds me of "Call 1-800-DOCTORB!" The B is for Bargain!"
- Bigbro69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+37Really? I could swear I didn't see male prostitution.
- floridiot2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+37There are some surgeons with High School or less? Uhh..
- Bigbro69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27They just need more mathematicians.
- jongens, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26while that is the case right now, i think the general consensus is there will simply a shift in what western software engineers actually do - i would think a lot of the higher level conceptual work will be done in the west, with the brute coding going offshore. software will become more and more complex, requiring bigger and bigger teams to conceptually piece it all together. once that has been done, the programming itself is quite simple, but at the same time, laborious and time consuming.
im not sure about you, but i hate to code. and i'm a programmer. this article rang true with me:
http://rentzsch.com/notes/programmersDontLikeToCode - spock627corfu, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25Top occupations for the next 10 years? The first three are easy: Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran....
- nicoladimaria, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22no philosophers needed, damn !
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19"there is a significant number of unemployed coders in the saturated US"
I don't know if that's actually true (unemployment is quite low in the US right now) but from my experience in the IT industry I see a lot of people who are somewhat clueless about how the real world works. I know a guy who programs ONLY in Java and he's constantly talking about how he can't find a good job. Why? It turns out he doesn't really want to work on a "boring" project. Instead he wants to program games but it turns out real games aren't really written in Java. So instead of learning C he sits around and whines a lot about how unfair life is. He's making a little over min. wage trying to pay off student loans. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Actually the crappy jobs are going to India. The maintenance of old code, the monotonous database updates, the 1st level technical support that is expensive for the company and mind numbing for the employee, these are the things that are going to India in increasing numbers. India, Turkey and even Mexico in some cases are becoming hi-tech sweat shops. Creating new and innovative things is still happening in the U.S., Canada and Western Europe.
I've been interviewing people for weeks for a software engineering job and just cant find someone who can do the job. The contractor we hired to get us through a couple of busy months lasted 2 weeks before he was shown the door for lack of performance.
Yes, the computer science world has changed but it doesn't mean all the jobs are gone, it does need that the U.S. needs to step it up. The days of getting handed a huge salary and cushy programming job simply for having a CS degree are long gone. You've got to proove you can provide value and provide it quickly. - Shizlanski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Yes, the really old ones. Think 60+.
- washingtonydc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13don't worry, lawyers are always needed. you'll never see a jobless guy on the street with a "Will Draft Briefs for Food" sign.
- washcapsfan37, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I was going to dgg you up because it made me initially chuckle, but then realization set in and it sounded a little too true. Now I'm depressed. Thanks.
- Slog, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Hi Doctor Nick!
it needed to be said - PissedGodzilla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I am surprised by the lack of science positions on that list. Sure there are doctors and dentists, but the real science of R&D and the bio tech fields aren't there. Considering that is my field of work, it's a little upsetting. We really need those science jobs to keep up in the forefront of medicine.
- VeryAngryJim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8No air traffic control? There's going to be a huge demand over the next 10 years due to a large amount of the workforce retiring and they make 100k+
Perhaps I'm biased. - washingtonydc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7our R&D situation in this country is absolutely disgraceful. For a nation that prides ourselves on innovation, ingenuity and inventiveness, we sure aren't doing what we need to do to develop the next generation of scientists. This is something China and India can certainly overtake us on--and it would be a great loss for the US.
- Fluidity, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Mechanical, civil, electrical but no chemical engineers required, i'm suprised!
- lagrange, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7> Do not, repeat, do NOT go to medical school. I've been in the field for almost 20 years, and it is going downhill. Right now, in most places, you are treated as the hired help.
You ARE hired help, just like everyone else. The medical profession would be a lot better off if the people practicing it behaved more like hired help and less like lords of medicine. - chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7No chemical engineering? Biomedical engineering? Mechanical engineering?
- Bytor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I have seen outsourcing at my company since the mid 90's, it accelerated drastically after tech bubble burst. I work in telecom, my company went from 100 000 employees to about 30 000. I want to address some myths posted so far.
Indian programmers are not inferior. On average they are better. They have exceptionally strong technical education and work like hell. I have worked with a great number of them locally and remotely. The big issues are language barriers and time zone issues. That and just being able to walk to someones desk. Work is much better with co-location.
It is not just "garbage" work that goes to India/China. We shut down a group in Texas and moved ALL THE WORK to China. We are staffing long term RFT positions in these countries. Not just sending the occasional bit of "garbage" work.
It is not "just programming" being exported and good programmers are not a dime a dozen. Good programmers are your future architects and technical managers. You are not going to just have Architects in the first world and "programmers" in the third world. I have never met an architect who didn't spend years being an excellent designer/programmer first. You outsource the programming, you are outsourcing the future.
All of this might not apply to doing business apps to correlate reports, but it certainly applies to telecommunications coding which is real time, highly complex and mission critical.
I am established(AKA stuck) now, but I wouldn't recommend this as a field to someone in North America now unless you absolutely love coding and know you are good at. If you are thinking of entering this field for the money, run for the hills. Outsourcing will be a large issue going forward. The labor pools are bigger/cheaper and often better educated in China/India. You will be competing with that - shortarabguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7It's about 3 years late... It's projecting until 2014, so it's the next 7 years, unless we're in retardo-land and 7+10 actually equals 14...
- picto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I think the use of the term "code writer" automatically nullifies the legitimacy of the source.
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -0/+5You get love from the drug community.
- Paperthin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5exactly what i was thinking. The biomedical field right now is booming!
- picto, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12[sigh] I honestly get tired of people that keep bringing up the whole outsourcing deal...which surprisingly enough isn't really that big of a deal at all. I'll point you to this article: http://news.com.com/2100-1022_3-6042347.html ( a bit old but still pretty relevant ). And if seems like a big problem for you still, you're either charging more than other coders in your area, or you're just not that good.
- mitrovarr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Registered nurse has got to be one of the best ones. My sister is a traveling nurse, and there are constantly shortages everywhere. She can get a job almost anywhere she wants, the pay is great, and it only requires 4 years of college.
Of course, it's not easy, and it takes a special kind of person to do it - you have long hours, you can't mess up, and you have to deal with sick people all of the time. But if you can handle it, you're pretty much guaranteed a job for life, and you can find one almost anywhere you want. - lucid270, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Oh, thats just Earl.
/comment below me wins - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6http://www.duggmirror.com
- Homunculiheaded, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3LegendarySock, yes the first 47 other times this was posted, and that fact that this is just a copy and paste of the original.
- Hallik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This list is *****, some of the real high-demand jobs aren't even listed, such as Chemical and Biological Engineering, which is the highest paying engineering field right out of college.
- russellnation, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Where was guerrilla marketer?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Marked as inaccurate, drug dealers make the best money and it is a growing industry for the next 200 years.
- essjay, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Actually, its mostly coding work thats going out to offshoring companies. I work as a systems/business analyst and I think the 35% upturn projected by that site is probably on the conservative side. And one of the factors driving up demand for people with those skills is the fact that coding is being outsourced. Typically customers don't mind outsourcing because it saves them money, but when they have to actually deal with the outsourced company for requirements gathering and contract negotiation, they're not so keen. As someones who's done the whole degree thing then the job hunting in IT, my advice is make sure you keep up your soft skills. Programmers are (literally) dime a dozen, people who can deal with customers aren't. Probably because only a small percentage of the population can put up with that much stupidity every single day...
- xtmno3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah,
As a programmer, I know of a number of other programming jobs within some nearby companies that are still open. The company I am at is off-shoring some of the mundane garbage to handle some of the work load, but a majority of the work basically can't be sent to India. If you need to talk to someone in the office, having an 11&1/2 hour timeshift slows stuff down a lot. It basically resorts you to email which is going to make even simple questions a 2 day ordeal. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I don't see lawyers on the list. Guess I'm screwed!
- RonAcierno, on 02/07/2008, -2/+4Nice to see Computer and Information Systems Managers up there ... I decided to go to college for that next year instead of Computer Science ... got accepted for CS but just grew away from it ... I hope I ended up making the right choice .. what do you guys think?
- FarcicalFart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There is mechanical on the 3rd page.
- sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'm really glad to see my career choice up there.
- dopplerdog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Funny - I knew a chem eng who would resist any insinuation that his job enabled him to make drugs for his friends. "Could you do a few tabs of LSD?" - "Nope!", he'd say. "How about some meth?",- "Nope!". So people would invariably ask "so what CAN you do with a chem eng degree??". His answer was, "well, if a chemist described the ingredients and reactions to me, I could design a plant that could pump 2000 gallons of LSD an hour. That's what a chem eng degree lets you do".
- meBigGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You are completely WRONG and spreading BS.
From Wikipedia, regarding BLS unemployment statistics.
On the other hand, individuals are classified as "unemployed" if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior four weeks, and are currently available for work. The unemployed includes all individuals who were not working for pay but were waiting to be called back to a job from which they had been temporarily laid off.
Finally, it is possible to be neither employed nor unemployed by BLS definitions, i.e., to be outside of the "labor force." These are people who have no job and are not looking for one. Many of these are going to school or are retired. Family responsibilities keep others out of the labor force. Still others have a physical or mental disability which prevents them from participating in labor force activities
There are inaccuracies, but what you said is totally WRONG - navster15, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Damn, we chem eng's get no love.
- deansfurniture5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Full list (instead of on multiple pages)
http://www.careervoyages.gov/top50occupations-main.cfm?pagenumber=all&sortby=top50factor&industrynumber= - khyberkitsune, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hahahah, they forgot to list my job.
Technology repair technician (specifically laptops) - $20.90 an hour.
And with so many computer users going portable, I'm gonna make loads of cash. Thank you HP and Dell for being so ***** with your engineering! - washcapsfan37, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It is true that some coding jobs are going overseas. Labor's cheaper, no healthcare coverage, no 401(k), etc. But, for now, the majority of the coding that I've seen going overseas is pretty mundane stuff. If you want something not very complex and doesn't require constant updates then, yes, it could easily go overseas. Personally I know of tons of coding jobs that are not, and probably will never, go overseas. I worked for almost ten years as a Dept of Defense contractor (Northrop Grumman and Raytheon). These jobs are booming hardcore right now (one of the fw things I've ever thanked Bush for at the time) and, since they require Secret or above clearances aren't going anywhere. Of course I live right outside of D.C. near the Pentagon -- most of these jobs aren't going to be available everywhere. While it's not as glamorous as the commercial sector (which I joined all of 2 weeks ago), the jobs are plentiful and the pay is very good. When I had my resume on Monster.com for a two weeks I received several hundred interview/follow-up requests from every know defense contractor out there (in fact, I am still getting them despite taking my resume off Monster a month ago). Just something for all you "starving" coders out there to consider.
FYI - Java/C# is big in DoD and Fed jobs. And Oracle. Got those two and a few years full SLC experience and you're golden. - in2thel2ain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No Bioengineers either?
Who's gonna make that replacement hip so you can use it to supplement your viagra intake? - letdowntourist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1man, this server is crawling.
digg takes down the .gov! - etnu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That isn't occupation, those are survival skills.
And you're a dumb ass. Just because global warming may cause the deaths of a billion people over the course of 25 years doesn't mean that we'll all be living in huts and reverting to hunter/gatherer ways. If anything, those jobs will be more in demand since everyone in silicon valley and bangalore will be dead (unless they were smart enough to get out when they noticed the rising tide). - kublerross, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I didnt even realize the pun the first read as the statement is all too true in the sense of businesses that stand to capitalize off any of those situations. very depressing in either interpretation
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