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- modafekshen, on 10/12/2007, -13/+44do people actually use yahoo?
- patience, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16What about the 10 seconds you have to wait for dancing guy asking if you are having problems with your email.
Just let my email open so I can see what demands I am getting from friends, collegues, family etc.
I don't want to read the news, view videos in my email and other junk.
Just open and close quickly. - scabbers, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16#12 - don't use Yahoo if you're a Chinese dissident.
- LonesomeFighter, on 10/12/2007, -14/+28they missed a tip.
-just google it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+22I tried Yahoo and on anything except the world's fastest connections it's unusable. Completely unusable.
Web 2.0 is a codeword for "works really, really slowly."
Gmail's good, though. - heifetz, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17Two reason why I'll never use yahoo mail
1. Why would you want ads to be displayed in every mail you send, when gmail is ad free?
2. Yahoo gets so much spam, they need to improve their filtering. I get significantly less spam in gmail. - kevintmckay, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11SLOW SLOW SLOW! and those ***** dancing silhouette adds pushed me over the edge so I went to to Google!
- sabaina, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9gmail isn't ad free?!! there are ads EVERYWHERE!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I check out the new yahoo mail every few months. They keep asking why I switched back and I keep telling them.
It *IS* a kick ass AJAX application.
However, there are some things it does not do that I either have with the old yahoo email or web client.
I want them:
1. When I reply I want quote marks, ie ">", not the Outlook style top posting.
2. I want the ability to choose my signature with each individual email.
Maybe someday they will listen and I will use that new app - sigmaman2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I have a Yahoo account, mostly because I have been using Yahoo Messenger for years.
What I'm waiting for is an online service that combines mail, IM, contacts, and tasks seamlessly, and then make it easy to synchronize them all to my PC and PDA from a standard, secure internet connection.
It looked like Yahoo was headed in that direction for a while, but I don't know what happened to them. If they can get the calendar and tasks integrated with the mail and contacts (which are already there), then they might have something. - jtoon, on 10/12/2007, -5/+103. LESS ADs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- vicaya, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The old yahoo mail is way worse with banner ads on top, while the new outlook wannabe is slower with equally annoying animated ads on the right. Text only ads like those on gmail is much more tolerable. gmail sucks these days too, as it's getting slower, though its pop3 service and excellent spam filtering keep me there.
However, the worst thing about yahoo mail is that they zap your account after a few months of inactivity. I lost all my contacts of my ex-colleagues that way. I will never, ever, ever, ever use yahoo mail again! (except for checking out its design once in a while when some article mentioned something new) - luchid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5How about you switch to a decent browser and ditch IE?
- locojones, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"I tried Yahoo and on anything except the world's fastest connections it's unusable. Completely unusable."
LOL then you and your computer must be extremely lame. It takes about 2 seconds for me to reach my inbox screen (Yes, the AJAX version) from login. And I'm hardly on a blazing fast connection.
It's hardly unusable. In fact, I use it everyday and it is hands down the best AJAX application I've encountered so far. So please take your anti-Yahoo rhetoric elsewhere. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -21/+25I use yahoo and I even pay for it.
No offense to anyone, but yahoo has more features from me than google. I've been tempted to use google because it is fashionable, but it has fewer features and is less customizable than yahoo. - duerra, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I converted back to regular Yahoo mail instead of their AJAX beta because I consistently and continuously would get IE JS errors after using for any reasonable amount of time. I would have to reload the screen to get the error to go away so that I could use the application again. It may be nice and pretty, but it wasn't working well with IE. I changed back about a month and a half ago after using the AJAX version for a couple months. I figured it would get addressed and changed quickly, but it never did while I was using it.
- locojones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Wow, you mean the 1 or 2 line text ad in the bottom of the mail? That's sooooooooooo overbearing.
And Yahoo's spam filter is the best in the business. I've had several accounts with them for years, and from the second I've activated the spam filter, I have never received anything but legitimate messages in my inbox. I cannot say the same for my gmail account. - jbarnum, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8The thing I dislike about Yahoo mail is that it doesn't open into the Inbox, but instead shows an ad.
- darrickc, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7The emails that you send from gmail don't have ads in them. This is what heifetz was saying. Gmail doesn't add any crap to email.
- shm0edawg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Everyone is bashing Yahoo! But if you take a look at comscore.... yahoo gets more pageviews per month than google and youtube combined. they also have half a billion unique users. people complain about the ads.... ads pay the people that write the pretty ajax mail and all of the other yahoo sites. if you don't like the bulkiness of www.yahoo.com then use search.yahoo.com. a company with the world in mind can't satisfy everyone. people will be ignorant, or informed and opinionated. i can bet i know why gmail became popular very fast.... can anyone guess? because you had to be invited. it was like a secret club, limited to a select few. ooooohhh.... you HAD to get an account, otherwise you weren't super awesome. i'm not saying that Y! > google or google > yahoo. I'm saying that yahoo catches flack way more than it should.
- Cronus6, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I read this post and went and checked an "old" Yahoo email account I'd not touched in 10 months... it's still there.
Exactly how long do you think they should retain them when inactive? - shm0edawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2no one at yahoo wrote that.
oh... and the us government caused 9/11. I just gave you a conspiracy companion. enjoy. - tonton2012, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_to_eleven
Obscure? - enoshite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2How can Goggles single line ads be compared to the the animated ads? I'm not a fan boy of either one, i just want my mail fast and with as least distractions as possible....
some good points against Yahoo are valid. IT IS SLOW>>...on any machine in comparison to Google...hands down!
I hate that they add the Yahoo link at the bottom of the email and honestly i only have two contacts on my email with an [at] yahoo address, I think people have a yahoo email address to get into Flickr!!! not for the email!
I don't like how you have to keep entering your password to go between their own services, its a waste of time.
Besides, when you get Gmail account (no longer by invitation only) you now have a Google account which gives you quick access to their document creation app, spreadsheets, etc.... - shm0edawg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@bigdavediode
Why would you want to do that? How long would you wait for Outlook to open? More stuff == more wait. It's a trade-off. I'd rather have Yahoo! and have support in case I need help than a beta version of an email service without any of the advanced features of Y! Mail. Also.... Gmail really isn't that stable. If you don't believe me, look in the forums.
BTW.... once you load it the first time, you don't have to wait as long on all consecutive tries until you dump your cache. Why measure wait time from a clean browser when you'll only get that wait time once? - robmcm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Who ever had a top 11 anything????
- locojones, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I just love Google fanbois. Griping and bitching about ads on Yahoo when Google is the biggest ad whore in the business. Quit being hypocrites.
- rwallen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Anyone use hotmail anymore?
- VioletArrows, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2For the three people on my list who won't convert to another message service. I ditched the email a long time ago.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3How can you mod me down? Go into it and measure it on a computer that hasn't cached anything (or maybe even on a computer that has cached it). I'm running on a reasonably fast wireless connection connected to high speed cable, 5Mb down.
Don't just run away, measure it for yourself and tell me your results. Don't be a coward, argue with statistics. My machine's a Pentium 1.7GHz. Why should I have to wait a half a minute to get not even to my mail, but to the first screen? Seriously, I'd like to know why I should do that. - sabaina, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I've been using Yahoo! since forever. Their new Beta is really good - works for me. I hate the folder-less Gmail environment - labels aren't something I'm comfortable with. Secondly the ads in Gmail - all over the place - next to the email, on top of the inbox - let me read my email already! I have very slow internet and I've used Yahoo! beta with IE 6 and 7 - and I've had no problems at all.
- cpeter9, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3seriously...totally *reeks* of "sophomore Yahoo Intern blog post" ----> see, viral marketing.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I pay to use the premium version of yahoo email.
I do this to get two features in particular:
1. Up to 50 filters
2. Spam guard( email aliases ) - I can make disposable email addresses that come to my email account. This is a great antispam tool. For example, if I need to give "booksRus.com" an email address to buy something I can give them the disposable address " mymail_booksRus@yaoo.com.
If the sell my address to spammers I will know where the spammers got my email address and I can delete the disposable address cutting them off.
Does google have anything like #2?
How many filters can I have in google? - locojones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow, maybe if those contacts were really important to you, you would've paid the whole 19 dollars a year for the Yahoo Mail Plus service. It's your own fault for being a cheap ass.
- VioletArrows, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"3. Easter Egg: When composing a message just hit the Subject: button to cycle through a collection of random (often humorous) subject lines."
Or, how to guarantee that your message will be mistaken for spam. - tempest, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Buried for being an obvious sponsored review per Yahoo.
- kjcdude, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4*Cough* GMail *Cough*
- LGgeek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Yahoo has the BEST spam filter around, I get zero spam. On my Gmail account I still get more spam than i do email.
- mortigon, on 10/12/2007, -16/+17I like yahoo, probably will never change only because it's a pain getting everyone to use your new email, and yahoo has everything I need.
- krc1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"End users tend to think that big business will of course have good security; so I ran a test of the 'Big Four': Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, AOL/AIM Mail, and GMail. Yahoo Mail was the only webmail provider to allow delivery of a VBS script. GMail was the only provider to block a zipped VBS script."
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/16/0225210 - tackle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I just timed it on my PC. It took "3" seconds for the interface to load on my PC. And for these 3 seconds, I did enjoy the little animation they have. I feel it is much better than a "Loading..." screen.
- grandpajesus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5decent tips i guess
I don't like the ads in yahoo mail or the lack of in window chat - briggsb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Um... I do.
http://www.bbspot.com/archives/index_top11.html - JoeDonH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you were willing to use Firefox, you could download the CustomizeGoogle extension:
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/743/
You can disable the ads you see on your Gmail page, and always force Gmail to use a secure (https) connection, along with a bunch of other nice customizations to Google services in general. Better yet, get Greasemonkey and use a script like Gmail Super Clean:
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/7646
There are a ton of ways to customize Gmail if you're willing to take a few minutes to do so. I have a Yahoo email address, but I don't use it because I don't want a splash screen before I get to my mail, and I want to go straight to my inbox, not a news page with ads. It's all up to personal preference, but Gmail can be configured in ways that Yahoo mail cannot. But if you really hate labels, then keep doing what you're doing. Meh. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2loco:
>I tested it on my setup, a 1.8gHz AMD connected via wireless to a 1Mb/s DSL. Cached, I was at the inbox in 2-3 seconds. With the cache and cookies cleared, it was 6 seconds.
Okay, I just tested it again, cached. It took LONGER -- 23 SECONDS! And that's not even to get to the inbox, just to their advertising screen.
If you're telling the truth, you can at least understand why there's a HUGE chunk of people such as myself that find this unusable.
schmoo:
>Why would you want to do that? How long would you wait for Outlook to open?
Forever, since I don't use Outlook. And even when I did (before I got smart and ditched it) it never took that long to open.
>More stuff == more wait. It's a trade-off.
False. And irrelevant, I just want email that works.
>I'd rather have Yahoo! and have support in case I need help than a beta version of an email service without any of the advanced features of Y! Mail. Also.... Gmail really isn't that stable. If you don't believe me, look in the forums.
Good for you, spend your time waiting for it to open. However, as above you can certainly see why others see Yahoo as crap, given the delays. As for gmail, I haven't had any stability problems with it, and I have accounts on both. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You are probably living in a fantasy world. I have accounts on both and Yahoo is bar none significantly worse than gmail.
- locojones, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Go into it and measure it on a computer that hasn't cached anything (or maybe even on a computer that has cached it)."
I tested it on my setup, a 1.8gHz AMD connected via wireless to a 1Mb/s DSL. Cached, I was at the inbox in 2-3 seconds. With the cache and cookies cleared, it was 6 seconds.
So there ya go. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Can the email filters in google read strings in HTML?
Can the email filters in google read strings in signatures? - sremick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I used to use Yahoo. I even got my own domain and paid for Yahoo Plus to get rid of ads and get more features. But then I discovered the beauty of IMAP, and since Yahoo doesn't support IMAP it was bye-bye Yahoo, hello Fastmail.
I've tried Gmail but although its interface is faster than Yahoo's, I still like IMAP (so I can have a dedicated client) and I don't like how I can't pay to rid myself of ads. I spend too much time in email to tolerate my email client being used as an advertising medium. I am willing to pay to not have ads, but Google doesn't want my money. - shm0edawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1When in Y! Mail, click help, then "send feedback." They do listen.
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