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- littlebylittle, on 10/11/2007, -8/+209They've probably been wiretapping mine for a long time.
*****. - JCSaint, on 10/11/2007, -4/+197The problem isn't with the ability to monitor. The problem is the fact that they're doing this without a warrant or getting warrants without proper due process.
I don't draw a distinction between a phone tap or an internet tap but we need to restore stringent rules for obtaining a warrant so that they only implement this ability when they have a valid reason to believe (and not just a made up reason) that the person is up to no good. Otherwise, it seems pretty obvious to me that simply monitoring falls under "unreasonable search and seizure." - Hepburn82, on 10/11/2007, -2/+112who watches the watchmen?
- MercedRocks, on 10/11/2007, -13/+101Plus it will be an ease temptation for people to say "Hey, the technology's already there, why dont we see if people are looking at porn sites, or gambling sites, or P2P sites, etc etc."
Freedom is often lost piece by piece. If anybody else here smokes cigarettes like I do you'll know what Im talking about. - rtay150, on 10/11/2007, -4/+73They need to be investigating corrupt congressman and why the hell we are in Iraq.
- ajskhan, on 10/11/2007, -5/+72LOL - the links below the story
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Watch The Simpsons, The Office, Jackass, South Park, Lost, X-Men, and More, On-Demand For Free - jackmaninov, on 10/11/2007, -14/+74Smokers have the freedom to smoke wherever they don't impede on my right to clean air (see life and happiness, two of the big three!).
- MercedRocks, on 10/11/2007, -4/+62Once they are able to watch your internet traffic you have to wonder who out there will be allowed to do the watching.
- N080dy, on 10/11/2007, -20/+71Mercedrocks:
I completely agree with your point on the taps. However, you cite smoking as an example of unjust loss of freedom. The difference is that a side effect of smoking cigarettes in public is potential harm to anyone standing near you (secondhand smoke, especially in closed spaces). I don't see those restrictions as being quite as unreasonable, because you're potentially harming others in the act of smoking, not just yourself. - gldfshnpcklejar, on 10/11/2007, -2/+53Someone is selling weapons on ebay, We are now going to wiretap everyone who has ever been to ebay, and their mothers. Just so we can catch this terrorist.
- Skod, on 10/11/2007, -2/+42I think it's funny that most musical artists loathe the RIAA
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -13/+51Oh NOES bush want's to spy on me,, he's listening to my phone calls right now I bet.
Maybe that's why my browsing is so slow, because Bush installed a keylogger with a trojan on my Ubuntu live Cd!!! - leetdood, on 10/11/2007, -3/+40Excellent reason for americans to move to Canada, eh?
- aggrogeek, on 10/11/2007, -1/+38I suddenly find myself extremely paranoid.
- DrAtheist, on 10/11/2007, -3/+39Good way to flag yourself as potentially dangerous and come under more scrutiny that. While they're busy decrypting your digg comments REAL TERRORISTS run free! You are aiding and abetting terrorists! The only way to be a good citizen is to use FBI servers as a proxy to help them log everything properly.
- WiseWeasel, on 10/11/2007, -1/+36That sounds like terrorist talk to me. We better pay extra close attention to what chucknorrisman is doing...
The problem is that anyone can be defined as a terrorist, and there is no oversight. This particular development means that it's just that much easier for goverments to do wholesale bugging of everyone's communications. - tizz66, on 10/11/2007, -2/+36Didn't you know that all internet users reside in America? Keep up!
- DrAtheist, on 10/11/2007, -1/+33All internet users?
*sits in the bit of the world labelled "other" and possibly "thar be dragons 'ere" - microview2007, on 10/11/2007, -0/+31Time to fire up the VPN tunnels and email encryption plug-ins.
- JCSaint, on 10/11/2007, -1/+32Congress is supposed to but even now that they've grown some semblance of a spine, they're still getting the runaround.
- BlackAle, on 10/11/2007, -7/+36Inaccurate, it's not ALL internet users, it's all US users, HUGE difference.
- sronbheatha, on 10/11/2007, -8/+35Thank God I don't live in America.
I expect Europol at my house soon. - snipes, on 10/11/2007, -2/+28This can all be summed up very simply:
W. T. F. - bioskope, on 10/11/2007, -3/+26Juarez = Mexican for Warez, right?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22And just wait until you have to use your REAL I.D. number to log on or buy service. Wanna bet?
- LeNoir, on 10/11/2007, -1/+23Don't you find it terrifying how much we have been using phrases like this in recent Digg articles... ? Who polices the police?... Who watches the watchmen? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?... etc.
1984 anyone? - MasterJediDan, on 10/11/2007, -3/+22Damn, guess this means we'll all be moving to Canada....or the PirateBay's new location.
- MrPresident13, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20better stock up on the...well...you know...tonight!
- Brakamow, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18Wave to our liberties. Wave to them as they pass by.
"Also, what will eventually happen I think is that the RIAA and the MPAA will try to petition courts to snoop on suspected file-sharers and gather intelligence and incriminating information with which to build a case against them."
You all KNOW that's what's going to come of this. - t3soro, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19"Mexican isn't a language dumbass"
you are correct, but it is a dialect. - RyanDaRin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17http://tor.eff.org/
- swordphish, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16It's that girl from Heroes, she knows where all your w4r3z is hidden.
- MercedRocks, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18Americans, is effective @ the ISP level.
- dave11980, on 10/11/2007, -6/+20But is it the governments place to say if people can smoke in my business or is it mine? If I want to have a bar or whatever that allows smoking that should be my right, you don't like it go to a place that doesn't allow it. Now, government buildings, public parks (government owned) etc, that is a different story.
- moocow1452, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15"Whoever gives up eternal freedoms for temporary security doesn't deserve neither"
Or something like that... - ecorona, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14This is a Government for the people and by the people.
If the majority of us (the people) don't want this, there is NO reason why this should pass. This is not a monarchy! We are running the country. Don't let Congress, Bush, or any politician make you do something you don't approve of. Who is ultimately responsible for this? Showcase their sorry asses on Dig so we can give them a little lesson on Democracy! - ScreaminIke, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14Tor. surprised it made it to the front page without tor getting a plug. host a node today!
- gamebittk, on 10/11/2007, -9/+22I'm un ur internets, wiretapping ur data.
- jackyyll, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Wait.. If i use the FBI's proxy servers to pirate movies, and music, can't the MPAA and RIAA serve them with a DMCA takedown notice too? :)
- hankyone, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15bush also compiled the kernel of whatever OS you're using with his own little magical touch that he programmed by himself with the help of the internets things.
- nukem996, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Time to start encrypting everything. Maybe even take the speed hit and use Tor.
- hankyone, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11yea sure... they'll watch over the tubes
- coldphoenix, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13Definitely time to make the trip north across the border.
- microview2007, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9You missed the point.
While they still must obtain a search warrant, there is nothing to stop them from conducting gum-shoe detective searches. Where they simply see what you are up too and if they feel a crime is committed then they can move forward on obtaining a warrant. For instance, using Carnivore they can quickly log the ip's of all those downloading say, Avril Levine's new hit from a P2P network over Comcast ISP. Doing a look up on who owns the IP, they can then obtain warrants to search you as they see fit. - iMatt711, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9one step ahead of you
- Thermopylae, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12Thank god I live in Canada, is there no more PRIVACY left in the world?
- KSUdesigner, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8"Here's my view: the government should be able to wiretap the internet, just like they can tap a phone."
Right, but there's a big difference between the internet and a phone. With a phone tap, they can only listen to what you say from the point they retrieved the warrant and forward. With the internet they can get the warrant and then look at the log of what you've been doing over whatever period of time, adding even more to their case against you if they want. Personally I don't think there should be any logs kept of what I do online by anybody other than myself. If the government has reason enough to obtain a warrant to tap my internet that's fine, but they should only be allowed to see what I'm doing from that point forward. We have rights to privacy and shouldn't have to worry about somebody snooping on us all the time. This is basically like the government saying, "ok we are going to install cameras in every home and record everything you do. Then if we have reason to suspect you for a crime we will obtain a warrant and review all of the video we have collected on you." ***** THAT! - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Global Warming is coming. Get the land while it's still cheap!
- Brew, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Great, the government is playing big brother once again, thanks buddy government. But, when I want to be looked after then I will tell you about it; otherwise, please, ***** OFF.
- lethoma, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7World Trade Federation? They're involved in this too? I should have known.
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