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- dt40, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28I find it obnoxious when
- dt40, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27sites like Tom’s Hardware split up stories across like 20
- dt40, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27pages in order
- dt40, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29to increase their page view count.
- frant1c, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Bah, page views are for little girls, really burly men use visit duration!
- rcran, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Visit duration is for midgets! Giants use Geo Location!
- TGKnIght, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7How lame, this isn't news... Some guy says "time for a new way" and doesn't offer up a suggestion WOW
- jamison18, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4agreed- anyone can point something like this out. I want to hear some new ideas.
- wranlon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've spent several years developing passive web monitors for performance, behavior monitoring, and analytics: And, I agree, that was a pretty lame conclusion.
One area the article nails is perceived value in the pageview analytics. I think the next types of Web page monitoring could cover behavioral, contextual, and real-time response to a passively monitored event (active analytics). There are a number of products that address these individually. However, I have not yet seen a Web monitor that connects these items together. Even then, I haven't found too many people interested in behavior monitoring, except for those few companies who tied existing page analytics with heatmaps.
In that respect, I think the the article's authors could have taken a closer look at existing products that are able to track more dynamic states (ajax, et al), and explore the value such monitoring products offer.
Another aspect of collecting a dataset richer than the typtical page-view data is the sheer size of it. Most people want to monitor as much traffic as possible and statistical sampling is usually not acceptable. A rich dataset that describes the various states of a dynamic page or user behavior patterns puts a much larger burden on storage and reporting as the volume of traffic rises.
Roll-your-own Web Analytics Article http://www.imnmotion.com/documents/html/technical/dhtml/monitor.html - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I like websurveyor but EVERY little change I make to a survey requires the entire bloated page to reload. I don't think they care about pageviews, I'm a paying customer. I just think some websites don't know how to do it.
- psyon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4There are plenty of cases where using javascript to update part of the page is ok, but personally, I like to be able to paste people links to content.
- smoothoperatah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm pretty sure that you should never tell someone something's broke without having thought about alternatives. That's what toddlers do, not creative-thinking adults. You should especially never tell this to your boss or, in this case, your readers.
- smoothoperatah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2When Ajax is used as intended you are still able to do so. Ajax should be used AFTER you have already set up hyperlinks for the section you want to ajaxify. Javascript, if enabled, will hijack the onclick event and invoke an ajax update, so if javascript is disabled on the client, the site still degrades gracefully. Therefore you still have an href.
- owensbofe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1wow, that was quite possibly the worst conclusion to an article i've ever read.
- totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Of course they didn't question the questionable validity of page views back when it showed them off to good advantage, right? :p
- vikzzzz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Dugg down for not giving us no insight on what this "new view" actually is.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Yahoo's page views are plummeting because they shut down their message boards.
- insaneMetalGear, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2"Ajax -- the software trick used on the page, Yahoo Inc.'s e-mail service and elsewhere"
This should say:
"Ajax -- the software trick used on the page, Google's Gmail, Google maps and elsewhere" - Tukowaga, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2hits are for noobs, real men use page views!!
- GeekedAtBirth, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1Kinda funny how we don't call phones 'phones' anymore...
- jiminoc, on 10/12/2007, -16/+3you're moronic comments are what drags digg down. If you don't know what you're talking about, STFU


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