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- willis77, on 10/10/2007, -1/+111Getting my sites to work in IE has wasted more of my life than I ever thought a browser could.
Die, IE6, Die a slow, painful, and cascading death. - fuzzmeister, on 10/10/2007, -8/+95How about "5%: Time spent considering coding a virus that would install Firefox on every computer in the world".
- sublimer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+42I think we want a quick death. Slow just makes IE6 hang around longer.
- 10001110101, on 10/10/2007, -3/+39Are they good websites?
- daonlyfreez, on 10/10/2007, -0/+32That is because you use FrontPage and think you are a webdesigner
- SpikeX, on 10/10/2007, -1/+30No-***** mirror:
http://spikex.net/i/web.png - albiniak, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21Time spent finding a quality web host: Failed to load.
- mikeyhell, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21great news... it's all billable!
- npsken, on 10/10/2007, -7/+25I don't think that would be a virus...
- Bricks, on 10/10/2007, -4/+22Trivial Pursuit: Web Designer Edition
also I think the guy left off a tiny sliver for "making hilarious pie charts" though perhaps it fits into the green piece. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -11/+29Mirror at http://bestpicever.com/pic-885-Modern-web-design
- jads, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17tables still have their place, but I don't think I've ever really gone 'bah ***** it, I'll use tables instead' when designing a layout in CSS. tables should be for tabulated content, not for layouts.
- lordtyros, on 10/10/2007, -7/+22I think it would be.
- Lorian, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15"You need to learn html and css better than."
What? You can write perfectly good code that works great in every other browser, but when you go to test it in IE suddenly everything breaks. Maybe Microsoft needs to learn how to code better software? - trivialmaggot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+145%?
- zeptobyte, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13And would force all users to only use Firefox?
- robdowns, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14Since when is it "Fire Fox?"
- Nanobe, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13There are several reasons why people usually develop for IE last:
- Since IE has more bugs and inconsistencies, it's easiest to develop for browsers that are more predictable first.
- IE provides easy ways to write workarounds for bugs (via conditional comments and other CSS hacks), so IE support can be added after the base is in place.
- Other browsers do not have straight-forward ways to write workarounds, so it's more difficult to add Firefox/Safari/Opera support if the site is already made for IE.
- Firefox has more web development and testing tools available than IE has (through extensions like Web Developer, Firebug, and HTML Validator).
- Future versions of IE will become more and more standards-compliant, so it's best to develop for the standards *first* and then deal with the individual bugs. Since Firefox/Safari/Opera are dramatically more standards-compliant than IE, they're the better choices to test the "standards-compliant" rendering. - IIIKrazyKiDDIII, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11not all compliant code works in IE6 as well as IE7.
- TheCosmicFool, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Microsoft is responsible for everyone now?
- stickguyws, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10It's ok guys. IE means Firefox in Crazyland.... which is where he's from.
- ultrafez, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10@fkr3, technically if it is written in W3C standards HTML (or XHTML) and standard CSS that validates correctly, then the page is written correctly. If Microsoft's browser can't follow the W3C specification for rendering HTML and CSS onscreen properly then that's not the web designer's fault, it's clearly Microsoft's fault. Firefox and Opera can manage it...
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10yeah, no. The CSS rendering in IE is craptastic. They improved it a little bit for 7, but 6 makes me die inside.
- grapeape25, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8There is something in there about Firefox...
- 10001110101, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8What glue are you sniffing? It comes from some dude's blog - his name is Marco. And he swiped it from Alan Foreman of poisonedminds.com
- DNABeast, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Hey! You just found the one extra space character that was freaking out the javascript!
- Nanobe, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Here was the approximate breakdown of my last big project:
10% doing the design mockups and approval process
2% implementing the design using valid semantic markup/CSS and support for Firefox, Safari, Opera, text browsers, etc.
45% backend work
30% adding Internet Explorer support
13% General testing and tweaking - jeffgtr, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Totally agree with the huge slice trying to get the thing to work with Internet Explorer. The collective amount of time wasted with IE is enormous. Disagree with giving up and using tables...someone needs to buy a good css book.
- IllBeBack, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9"Since when is it 'Fire Fox?' "
Since idiots came to be. The non-idiots are still using the correct "Firefox". - SpikeX, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Nah, digg him down anyway. That site sucks.
- malaak, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Where's the chunk of the pie for: "Dealing with the ignorance of clients" ?
- thethorn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I usually bury you for all of the ads on your site. But now that I have adblock, I'm going to digg you.
- monsterofNone, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6shill.
- wiifm69, on 10/10/2007, -8/+14Unfortunately the graph has got it wrong, there is much more swearing then it suggests, perhaps contributed by the '***** i hate you, i hope youe die ie' portion of the pie
- Lorian, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I feel dirty when I think that and force myself to carry on trying to make it work with CSS.
- tothemax64, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Didnt your parents teach you not to eat paint chips as a child?
- anagoge, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7In all seriousness, is there any way at all that you could implement such a "virus" on a site?
- fusama, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6that would infect IE...sure. Have you never heard of drive-by-downloads?
- zwaldowski, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5In what universe?
- darkphoenix939, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5maybe he played with the dora dolls ?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Dude, seriously, have you ever tried to make a compliant page in IE 6? You have to hack like Uwe Boll. And that whitespace recognizing ***** in Firefox is stupid too.
- RadicalEdward, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10I love the "time spent trying to code everything in css and breaking down and using tables" section. I think that would be about half the pie for me.
- monsterofNone, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5shill.
- tothemax64, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Go to heck you piece of garbage!
- sleastack, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Hey.. Jam it OK?
- el_taco, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4HTML Validator and Web Developer FF toolbar
- tuxracer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Die IE6? Please. IE7 is *marginally* better when it comes to CSS support. I can write a stylesheet and load it up in Firefox while I'm developing it. When I'm done I'll pull up Safari, Konqueror, and Opera to check on how it looks and with maybe some minor hicups it looks and behaves almost identical. Then I load up IE7 and it's still a mess. I mean sure, now the :hover will work on more than the a tags and the pngs are finally alpha transparent. But it's still an absolute headache to deal with.
I had really high hopes for IE7. What an absolute joke IE7's CSS support has turned out to be. Not even remotely close to Firefox, Opera, or Safari (aka EVERY OTHER FREAKING BROWSER) - simpleid, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4it seems this is a good idea, but it's actually bad, because
in the hierarchy of things, standards > company
and microsoft does not follow these specific standards well - SebHughes, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4My site got on the digg.com homepage nto a while back. Dreamhost decided to disable my site since I was getting so much traffic. I'm swapping soon.
- sleastack, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3STFU!!!
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