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- brownmik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The original poster is misunderstanding the WHOIS data. Most domain name registrars offer a service called "Private Registration", which will keep your name & address out of the WHOIS data base by masking it with the registrar's contact info. (It's offered as spam prevention.)
If you check WHOIS for the domain in question (graphicsemporium.com), you'll see that the email for the Admin & Tech Contacts ends in "networksolutionsprivateregistration.com". This probably means that the domain has private registration.
So most likely, some other end-user bought the domain name. If you Google for "Graphics Emporium", you get quite a few hits, so it's not exactly a unique name.
Let's not make sweeping judgements based on (incorrect) anecdotal evidence. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Why don't you just buy it when its available. Its only 9 bucks.
Its like checking for a parking spot, and then assuming 2 hours later it will still be available! Use some common sense people! - capajc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3No digg. graphicsemporium.com isn't registered to Network Solutions, they're just masking the owner's info.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I knew this a few years ago when I tried to check "whiteslaveauctions.com" and nobody owned it and a few weeks later it was unavailable.
- woodchucklove, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3By the way, this is the company that registered the domain. Looks like they've been a company longer under that name longer than you have.
Graphics Emporium LLC
(208) 376-6137
350 N Milwaukee St
Boise, ID 83704
http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&q=graphics+emporium&near=Boise,+ID&sa=X&oi=locald&radius=0.0&latlng=43613611,-116202500,1463104179963704833 - reimkefj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Seems like we can have a little selfdefense. Let's all query five domain names every day. Use "good names" that you have ZERO intention of using. :-)
- abiogenesis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Just check the link... It is pure speculation, I don't buy it...
- wmbattsjr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Step 1: Speculate
Step 2: Post story with inflammatory title
Step 3: ...
Step 4: Profit!!
Knock it off, thank you. - martona, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3This is *****. The registrant is "Graphics Emporium LLC", not Network Solutions. Check whois and read it carefully.
- SFBay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Er, although I thought this was legit at first, I just went and checked the actual website he's talking about. http://www.graphicsemporium.com/. It's obviously been bought by a graphics designer. That is not a NetSol "for sale" page. NetSol do not make custom graphics for each page!
So, in other words, this is just a coincidence. The guy should have bought it when he had the chance; it's only ten bucks for crying out loud. And as for all the idiots here bitching and moaning about this - I don't know which is worse, that you're totally wrong and are still complaining, or that you probably don't even CARE that the article is BS - you want to complain anyway! - fac3less, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've had this occur before as well: Just use 'whois' via shell rather than going to any specific site to look it up.
- jasqwerty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why would a registrar squat a domain? That's just stupid on so many levels, plus possibly in violation of numerous ICANN policies.
Of course, the submitter, who is the author I'm guessing, is just an idiot, since the above situation is not what happened, but whatever. - SniperX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2REASON THIS HAPPENS:
I've had this happen to me in the past, and obviously many others have as well.. What I believe is happening is when a domain is checked a couple of times it is tagged, and sites like netsol offer up other possible domains the potential buyer might like when they're searching for domains. I figure these domains come from availability searches, and thus the registrar makes them more visible and the odds of being purchased go up exponentially. - SFBay, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3EVERYBODY go up and mark this story as INACCURATE. It's just plain wrong. Go and look at the web site in question - it's some other graphics company with the same idea, NOT NetSol. Go and vote INACCURATE and see if we can take this down.
Now don't get me wrong. I hate NetSol as much as anyone, in fact I would probably settle for nothing less than for them to all be locked into their office and then the building slowly filled with boiling oil. But there is NO VALUE for ANYONE in spreading misinformation, which this story clearly is.
INACCURATE. Do it! - spikes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Its no worse then every company under the sun registering *every* domain that expires and then trying to sell them at a premium.
- sensei_zebub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1just had this happen to me. A little more than a week ago I searched for a domain for a customer I'm doing a site for. The domain name is (owners last name)studio.com and the owners name is very unusual (not Smith or Jones) So I waited a week or so before registering it just to make sure the customer was all go. Well over the weekend I go to register it and sure *****, it was purchased just the day before. so yeah... this scam sucks.
Info on who sniped my domain:
emails: domains@revenuedirect.com, domainsale@gmail.com
names: Scott, Brian Unruh
they registered the domain through: Dotster.com
These people work for the register companies or they're buying search logs from the register companies. Either way... in my instance it was seaching GoDaddy.. shame on you GoDaddy for participating in sniping and extorting - mile, on 10/12/2008, -0/+1"Warning: The Content in this Article May be InaccurateReaders have reported that this story contains information that may not be accurate." ????????????????????????????
huh? There is NO WAY this is inaccurate. The only people stating its inaccuracy are the people INVOLVED in the scam. Use your brains. People CHEAT the system whenever possible. - WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Let's not make sweeping judgments based on (incorrect) anecdotal evidence."
BUT Let's not have BLIND FAITH, based on (incorrect) gullibility and assumptions.
I had the same experience, years ago, making up a domain name, doing a search for it, --and then finding it 'for sale' very soon after.
OBVIOUSLY, someone is just registering whatever people search for, hoping to make some quick bucks!
The real problem is with whoever or whatever allows people to register domain names they are not actually using, and then become re-sellers.
Why can't people just register what names they want, and THEN work it out if there is a LEGITIMATE other person who is already using that name?
And WHY is it necessary to PAY anyone to register a domain name?
WHO gave THEM ownership of all the unregistered names?
The ones who are in charge of whatever servers/databases.....keep track of domains on the internet MUST (need to ) be very strictly regulated and restrained from doing precisely that.....using their insider info to turn a profit!
It can't remain LEGAL, or generally accepted, that someone can just claim a name and then sell it to others!
We need to SHUT those people down, in any way possible!
Bastards!
:-)
- superjustin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Network Solutions sucks anyway...No Digg...
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+1rofl @ "Look around, they're thugs and should be avoided like cheap Australian table wine."
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Well, *if* Network Solutions is being naugty, at least they're making a good show of it...
http://www.graphicsemporium.com - MilesStandish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I totally buy this. I checked on a name for a word I made up a few times one day (it was a toy I designed) and it was gone the next day. It would have to be like the biggest coincidence ever for this to happen any other way.
I've been not checking on domains ever since. - energyblue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I KNEW IT!!!
when I check like over 5 times i alway lose the domain!
I think its the same with searching google aswell.
Digg+! - haochi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That had happen to me last two weeks, I searched "googlogy.com" and it is still available, the next day I search again and some company had already purchased it.
- papayiya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1do you actually think networksolutions cared for the domain name "graphicsemporium.com"
I mean, sure the whois info is suspicious, but hell, he could have told the name to someone and they got it - dburka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1He ended up registering Perfectus Graphicus instead! Gold. I want to see a logo with a toga clad designer...
- mile, on 10/12/2008, -0/+1Its not inaccurate. Dont force people to do things they're not sure of. This is 100% accurate. If you've ever had WHOIS searches stolen from you within hours, you'd be blowing another whistle.
- majorbabu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1if site is down this is what the dude in the forum says:
"I am in the process of setting up a new website. I have been planning it for a week or so now. A few days ago I visited a certain domain name seller to check on the availability of a domain. It came up as available. Super...I thought. Quite a good name there. However......
Today I came to set up the name and hosting for the new website. And what do you think I discovered? The domain name was purchased 2 days ago. And who is the name registered to? The exact same domain name seller I searched the term on on the first place!
Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
You cannot even begin to imagine how mad I am!" - Mesach, on 04/15/2008, -0/+1I dont knowI checked out a domain YESTERDAY, today its registered, here is the whois info... BTW this is retreived using Sysinternals Whois.exe, The problem with this is the fact that NetSol is probably not paying to register the domains, even though they OWN the .com TLD this should not be allowed to happen.
Connecting to COM.whois-servers.net...
Connecting to whois.networksolutions.com...
This Domain is available at NetworkSolutions.com
13681 Sunrise Valley Drive, Suite 300
HERNDON, VA 20171
US
Domain Name: CatchyDomainName.COM
This Domain is Available - Register it Now!
600,000 domain names are registered daily! Don't delay; there's no guarantee
that a domain name you see today will still be here tomorrow!
Register it Now at www.NetworkSolutions.com.
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Network Solutions, LLC domainsupport@networksolutions.com
13681 Sunrise Valley Drive, Suite 300
HERNDON, VA 20171
US
1-888-642-9675 fax: 571-434-4620
Record expires on 14-Apr-2009.
Record created on 14-Apr-2008.
Database last updated on 15-Apr-2008 17:28:05 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.reserveddomainname.com 205.178.190.55
ns2.reserveddomainname.com 205.178.189.55 - dgath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just because it is registered under Network Solutions doesn't mean they own it. You can hide the fact that you are the true owner of a domain by allowing the domain registration company act as "the owner". Same with godaddy. I've suspected this happening along with many other people for years. If you search for a good domain and it is available, buy it. If you can't shell out the $5 to, then you have no reason to bitch.
- tenthumbs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1inaccurate story
pure speculation
no digg - mile, on 10/12/2008, -0/+1No proof? Yea, people are just making this ***** up for fun. You prick.
- Chewie67, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1True or not, the same advice applies -- if you find a domain you like, BUY IT. Right then.
A domain costs $7.95 these days (if not less). Just buy it. If you don't end up using it, you're out about the cost of a Grande at Starbucks. Big deal.
Use some common sense, folks. - burakb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wanted to buy some domain which means "what's new?" in Turkihs and noticed it's in "REDEMPTIONPERIOD" status since November. After a few days, I noticed that the status is changed and I applied for the domain on DotRegistrar's website because they were the current holder and the status was "PENDINGDELETE", which puts the domains future into their inititative.
When I tried to buy the domain, their website stated it's available! Voila! I was very excited because I was planning to use it for a Turkish version of "digg-reddit rip-off". I applied and gave my credit card info, where dotregistrar.com blocked US$14.95
I didn't receive any notifications on purchasing that domain. No emails, it wasn't listed on dotregistrar user page etc. A few days passed and I wanted to check the status of my purchase at " dotregistrar.com". When I tried to login, I couldn't. I thought the password was wrong so I asked for a new password for my account. Guess what: my account was deleted and there is no record of my application for purchasing other than the blocked US$14.95!
I asked questions about the situation and here are the answers:
Q: Why did you delete my account?
A: User accounts with no transaction in 7 days are deleted regularly(mine was deleted on 5th day and the support person thinks there's a problem with their service)
Q: I have a transaction process in my bank account and you didn't let me buy the domain. The domain was bought just after I applied to your service. What is the reason for that?
A: ... (no answer at all)
Now I have to pay a minimum of US$200 for the domain, which is registered by some "anonymous registrar" via Name.NET. If nobody buys domains from these overpriced domain thieves, they'll quit sooner or later.
And I think some SERIOUS regulations should apply very soon because now I know I'm not alone. - m4rvin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i search widgetstation.com at netsol. i came back a couple days to register. it was already taken. this was months ago. visit the site now, its still under construction - like its waiting to be bought... this blog just confirmed my suspicion
- dinsley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Mirroex:
You sir, must be from slashdot.
What you're referring to is the 'redemption' period, and before this period kicks in you've already had plenty of time to renew this domain name. I suspect you didn't bother renewing a domain with them, so you have a chip on your shoulder now.
After checking with their page you can clearly see this in their Terms of Service. Try checking _every_ other registrar and you'll see they all charge this standard fee to bring a domain out of the redemption period.
http://www.networksolutions.com/help/index.jhtml?viewpage=category.php%3Fid%3D89
Bringing a domain out of the redemption period requires that the registrar contact the registry directly and file a report which includes a variety of information including the reason _why_ the domain will be restored. - sillywampa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Stop panicking. Network Solutions did NOT register this domain. It's a private registration which means the real registree paid extra to hide his identity. Network solutions would not register the domain then point it to powweb.com.
look it up at internic.net
http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whois?whois_nic=graphicsemporium.com&type=domain - sc0re, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ok people. I have suspected this in the past as well. In fact, in Dec. of 2004 I posted on a forum about it. Here's the link to that forum post I made http://forum.marketingsecrets.com/viewtopic.php?p=901&highlight=#901
+, it's happened to me since then too, sometimes with 1 day of the original domain availability check. This is not speculation (in my eyes at least). - iaskedTGT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And the blind see.
- WayneGoode, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Check the site. It looks like an actual company has the domain. Logo, phone number, etc. If NS was going to sneak it, I don't think they would bother with a site and logo. Plus, it is hosted by powweb.com, not NS. NS is just masking the owner, a "private registration."
- grin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11and1.com is a smart company. The mult-page ads and volume approach is paying off. Makes godaddy look like ritzy big corp types. I'll renew all my domains with 1and1
- FeldBum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I f*ckin' knew it! It's happened to me hundreds of times and I thought I was being paranoid. DAMN!
- christopherk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1SniperX said the most sane thing I've read here. I can't believe so many have suggested people should expect this sort of thing.
- woodchucklove, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Network Solutions doesn't care about your domain. It's called private domain registration.
SniperX hit it on the head. I search with Dotster all the time, and it constantly gives me suggestions based on what people have just typed in. . . or previously registered domains. - thirstyrobot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Typical. Some kid thinks his domain name is brilliant and blames everyone but himself when someone else registers the limp and unimaginative name "graphics emporium."
This is non-diggable. - cheftony, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I was online ready to buy one last night... I hope this isn't true!
- inactive, on 09/05/2008, -0/+0Some good domain names probably still available.
Get free Domains http://www.webhostingyes.com - DSPGeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Regardless of the original story being true or not, the exact scenario occured to my step-brother when he looked up a desired domain name using NetSol's web tool. He returned a couple of days later, and surprise! surprise! the name had been bought up by a speculator. This has happened too often for all the stories to be mere coincidence, especially considering NetSol's other, ah, "interesting" business tactics.
- mile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0not only that - they throw ads on those sites and take the PPC income for about 5 days then drop the name and get a refund UNLESS the PPC is out of this world then they keep it.
Its more than opportunistic, its a crime. You'll see........ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0> check the domain, it's open, go back a week later to register and it's gone.
Well, fscking DUH... a *WEEK*? that's like 70 dog years in internet time. -
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