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- ionut, on 10/12/2007, -8/+70These numbers don't include those who use Google Chat from Gmail. Gtalk is not a finished project yet and it lacks many basic features (like sharing files), so why would we care about stats so soon?
- Scruffydan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+63I like gtalk becuase it is not bloatware.
MSN AIM ICQ (i dont use yahoo) are all bloated. ( i know i can use gaim ir trillian to reduce bloat). In many way gtalk reminds me of ICQ way back when i started using it. - paryl, on 10/12/2007, -9/+68ahem... *millions* are running jabber servers?
- MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+60No, but my brain dislikes ads, annoying popups, and AIM's strong desire to replace your default browser.
- dougmo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+51I chat with folks through Gmail all the time... I prefer it over having another client open
- kluge, on 10/12/2007, -5/+43@IQ70
ICQ is technically integrated with AIM, so I bet the AIM total includes ICQ - iluvatar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30almost everyone in the US uses AIM, but the rest of the world primarily uses MSN.
- Scruffydan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+29If Skype can do it so can google i imagine.
- killerofkiller, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25MSN is majorily used in Europe, most of the foreiners at my school have MSN accounts and dont use aim
- IQ70, on 10/12/2007, -12/+32TechCruch has never heard of ICQ?
- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21It's regional. Most of the United States uses AIM ( Carrying over from when everybody used AOL. ), but most of the rest of the world uses MSN.
The big problem with a new competitor in this field is that people choose their service based on what their friends use. People won't switch what service they use unless everybody does it at the same time. - Tiabin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18The numbers I suppose are only looking at who uses *the* Google Talk client. Plenty of people using the NETWORK (though not millions), and that's all that matters. Sick of seeing badpress on a good open network.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14"I chat with folks through Gmail all the time... I prefer it over having another client open"
Same here. My boss and I both use it that way, plus all the contractors we work with and a bunch of my friends all use it that way. I haven't opened Trillian in weeks. - plasmatic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Many Canadian's use msn messenger too. I rarely use AIM and if I do, it's to talk to some of my friends who live in the US.
- szembek, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Best chat program i've used in a while
- unholy1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I wish more people would use GTalk / Jabber. It's quite possible to connect GTalk to MSN / AIM / etc.
See http://www.bigblueball.com/forums/google-talk-news/33739-connect-google-talk-aim-msn-yahoo.html - aarslank, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13google talk is a great service. I use it for overseas conversation almost everyday. No problems, no ads (just yet), very clean interface.
- likwidtek, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14I love google talk and use it everyday.
- masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16Definitely. Google Talk is worthless to me, but GMail talk is invaluable. GMail has revolutionized the e-mail business again as live chatting integrated with mail should become the new standard.
That said, those numbers don't look right. Only 33,000 using AIM? Only 350,000 total unique users in the IM market? Those statistics have to be totally off. - humblepatience, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10 MSN is popular in other countries like the UK.
Everyone I know is on AIM.
I use gtalk within gmail as do several of my friends - punkrockxtian, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Your location almost certainly defines which IM client you are going to use. I for one live outside of Toronto, and everybody here uses MSN, but when I visit my friend's in New York, AIM is the dominant client. Also, cremate, stop being so ignorant.
- dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Wow..I had always thought that AOL/AIM were the most used IM programs, I use MSN...but I never figured that it has such a lead.
- Wahttehhog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9You see, AIM stands for America Online Instant Messenger. Surely you don't expect to find anyone in Europe, Australia, Japan, etc. using it?
- aburd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Literally 95% of the people I talk to on a personal level (not business) use gmail and chat through it. I know people who actively refuse to run a chat client that use gtalk through gmail. Any stat that doesn't include gmail is just ignoring much of the audience.
And if the client starts to include file transfer, video, and smilies I think it will have a chance of competing with the other big boys. - Bradl3y, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Google talk is really a great concept, I use it all the time and it accomplishes just what i need, chat with friends and family. It has low marketshare because it doesn't *feature* all of the BIG FONTS and pink colors that the teenage girls like to use.
The service is great, its a standard format, can be connected to easily from many different applications. - rocke86, on 10/12/2007, -12/+19If they add free voice out to phone networks I would find it a lot more useful.
- xenoputtss, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9@elnerdo
I think you just listed every reason why Gtalk is good software and not bloat crap.
I use Gtalk to talk to everyone, if not its email. If they need to send me a file, then they can email it to me, or if i must then sign on to MSN.
AIM is pure crap. Not only does it have ads, but it has talking ads! And POPUP ads!
MSN is nice, although i do feel the newer versions are becomeing to "pretty" focused. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8MySpace IM isn't doing any better :P
- lane.montgomery, on 10/12/2007, -19/+26Yeah, and if iTunes would start offering their music for free, I would find that a lot more useful too. But it won't happen because it doesn't make business sense.
- dognose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Well, these numbers are useless because they don't count the people in gmail.
This is how they've gained a ton of users, and everyone I talk to in Gtalk is in gmail at the time. Millions of people are using gmail and they barely realized they have gtalk.. untill someone messages them! Before you know it, all sorts of people are using it. - cheshire137, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I use GTalk only within Gmail and it's highly convenient because I don't have to open or even have installed any outside apps.
- eric0213, on 10/12/2007, -11/+16MSN has a lead because (at least part in due to) it's pre-installed on most computers. The same arguments that IE has for being the market leader can be made for MSN Messenger.
- luckyjonny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6When Google hired Sean Egan of Gaim eight months ago I hoped I'd see Google Talk turn into a multi IM client. That's what I'm waiting for - one IM client that'll work with all the features of the networks that it can use (that's regularly updated so it continues to operate in such a fashion, Trillian fans).
Perhaps I'm just impatient :) - W00DR0W, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Well first of all they don't advertise talk as aggressively as MSN or Yahoo.
I mean MSN and Yahoo basically shove it down your throat, I don't even remember installing them yet they're on my computer. - Scruffydan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5MSN does that now i belive. (maybe not through gaim though)
ICQ used to do that many moons ago... it is a very usefull feature. - Warpling, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Agreed, I am still waiting for file sharing and 3 way calling, etc. I have 7 people that I actually care to talk to, unlike AIM, that has a bunch of people telling you how great they are in away messages, and profiles that have stupid quotes and links to myspace. I believe that an amount of people that have gmail will slowly switch to using it from AIM, It also goes well with people having names as sn's instead of Xx-imbuff-xX, or _-cutegirl-_.
- nerditup, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I guess you think the only IM client people use is the one you use,
@cremate, I only use MSN and I could say the same about AIM how no one uses it, just because I don't know anyone that does.. or very few that do. - sik0fewl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@Negyxo
If you're bothered by that, check out the acronym "Gtk".
Gtk = GIMP Toolkit = GNU Image Manipulation Project Toolkit = GNU's Not Unix Image Manipulation Project Toolkit.
And I'm only getting started :). - boardo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The comment about Canadians is true. The large majority of Canadians who use an IM client I find use msn messenger
- Bradl3y, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Skype can do it, but they are either losing money, or have a deal cut with the major providers. It is unlikely that they will offer the free calls for ever. Bait and hook!
- MicrowavedH2o, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4yes, I use AIM, as well as yahoo and gtalk simultaneously, in adium!
- vdxc, on 09/29/2008, -0/+4i like Gtalk because it's queit, doesn't have adverts, doesn't try and make me sign up for more Google services, doesn't filter my posts, integrated into Gmail (although the county ISP for schools blocked the talk in Gmail). I also like the simplicity, no fancy colours, just pure messenging and VOIP.
- ase111, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Admittedly, I'm an AIM guy (not exactly a minority there). But if you don't factor in the usage *within gmail*, then you're factoring out a lot. I've used it loads in gmail, and it's a great feature. I'm glad it's there. Don't think of it's performance as, oh it didn't beat AIM. Think of it as how people are using it alongside AIM.
- enanogrande1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Yea, as has been pointed out by others, AIM is almost exclusively used in the US; In South America and Europe, most people haven't even heard of AIM and I have yet to meet one that's used their service. I can't speak for Canada, but what I've heard from some friends tells me that situation is more or less the same there, except for the fact that the people are somewhat familiar with AIM (I am unsure, does AOL conduct business as an ISP in Canada? And if so, are they big or not?)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8@ masamunecyrus:
The (000) after Unique Visitors should be a clue to you that these numbers represent thousands (i.e. 33,000,000 for AIM). Use your head. - Grayfox777, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm sure they'll make some improvements to Google Talk. After all, it's still beta.
- NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I use G-Mail chat because where I work, they inventory your installed software, and chat w/in G-Mail doesn't show up.
- TheG2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I use GTalk all the time at work, its simple, it's discrete and lightweight, plus I know its not going to mess with our software development. It also lets me know when I have new email (although GMail also sends me an SMS). I think it will gain popularity soon enough, especially seeing as you can use it from any AJAX enabled browser...except Opera..
- xenoputtss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think many many people forget how google works. Most of its services that it produces are created by Google employees during their "special time". Google gives every employee X amount of time a week to pursue their own ideas. Google basicly only says "we have the right to attempt to profit off of this work, if we see fit"
So what if gtalk is only 1% of the market? As far as i know google isn't makeing ANY money off of it yet, or is it attempting to. - zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I dont think I have ever used the AIM client.
I use to use ICQ.
90% of the time I use gtalk.
then I use msn only because my work uses it.
I don't use yahoo talk at all. -
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