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- Uncle_Joe, on 06/25/2009, -6/+210We wish you the best of luck TBP!
- jnc2134, on 06/25/2009, -4/+164I think this is insanely appropriate.
Numerous citing of bias in the court case. The Justice system seems to have lost the justice, and at the works of the RIAA/MPAA has become just a system.
***** THE MPAA/RIAA - vfreak2, on 06/25/2009, -3/+133Can it get more entertaining. I love these guys!!! They fight in style and with humor. And what's more, they fight for us!
- unusualbob, on 06/26/2009, -3/+69Pretty much everyone and their mother could tell the judge had bias and yet the government said he wasn't biased. I think they are going on the direction of 'right to a fair trial'.
- bigdnl, on 06/26/2009, -3/+56I guess TPB is giving MPAA/RIAA a run for their money.
- smacksaw, on 06/26/2009, -5/+53A biased judge lets a biased judge off the hook.
Considering how much information is now available at our fingertips, it's amazing how the people who cheat justice don't even bother to hide it. They don't have any shame or even apologise.
The cold, hard reality is that justice is about money. And as long as people like GaltShrugged are out there thinking it's about an issue (and one they're on the wrong side of), we are going to have a corrupt legal system. This isn't about TPB. It's about the fact a judge with a bias against you could be assigned to preside over your very life and ignore legal principles and you have no recourse. - NobodyWhoCares, on 06/26/2009, -4/+46I really hope they go through with this. Weather or not you're for or against TBP, the trial was clearly a biased joke, and just to have a re-trial denied is a clear signal that they're putting a corporation above the people they're sworn to be serving.
If you're for TBP, great, wish them luck. Original trial aside, they're in the right here.
If you're against, you'd have to be a self deluded hypocrite to think that the laws only apply when it's convenient or bought. By that same token I'll just pirate what I want because I don't think the laws apply to me, I'm that special. - robertisaar, on 06/26/2009, -3/+36even though you meant TPB, i'll still digg it...
- SuperMoses, on 06/26/2009, -2/+34Dugg for gigantic nut sacks.
- enthreeoh, on 06/26/2009, -7/+37You're a ***** idiot.
- killymckill1, on 06/26/2009, -2/+29wrongfully putting someone in jail = human right violation
- kopiwrite, on 06/26/2009, -3/+28According to Council of Europe's "Convention on Human Rights" in 3.6 article 6, the right to a fair trial is a basic human right.
It is quite obvious to everybody except these judges + MAFIAA that TPB did NOT get a fair trial.
Not only was the lead investigator for the case employed by Warner before and after the investigation, but every single judge who has handled the trial has been biased. - dsmx, on 06/26/2009, -1/+23Yep how can a judge on the boards of many pro copyright organisations ever give a fair verdict on something that involves violating copyright?
- inactive, on 06/26/2009, -4/+25So, when I downloaded that episode of "The Office", whose copy did I take? Because, from all legal definitions of the word 'theft', I would have to have made the property inaccesible to another individual by procuring their purchased copy for my sole use.
As far as I can tell, downloading a video/song doesn't remove that same file from someone else's library. Granted, downloading in such a manner may qualify as some other crime, which has yet to be fully defined by our archaic court system, but it is absolutely NOT theft. - CVL4317, on 06/26/2009, -3/+23You know that it is such a sad thing if a government needs "pirates" to wake-up slap them about human rights.
- FrameWraith, on 06/26/2009, -7/+26Despite your obvious mental divergence, these guys are fighting for your socially retarded ass too. One day if you ever come out of your coma you may thank them.
- NobodyWhoCares, on 06/26/2009, -0/+18Ha. Sorry, English is my second and the antipiracy zealots removed all the torrents for a decent spellchecker.
- slvrbullet87, on 06/26/2009, -3/+17While I think the pirate bay got screwed, i am having trouble understanding what human right they think they had violated. Can anybody clear this up for me?
- zyklon, on 06/26/2009, -3/+16Serves Sweden right for backing them all these years and then FINALLY giving into the pressure. It's completely immoral. It's like Switzerland jumping into a war Ahmedinejad accepting defeat. Unexpected because it's not supposed to happen.
- Falldog, on 06/26/2009, -3/+15What happens if they get a judge in this 'suit who's bias for TPB? Is it like dividing by zero?
- uberduger, on 06/26/2009, -1/+12@computershack: You can search for torrents on Google. Therefore Google are doing something to 'help people find pirated copyrighted material'.
Think Larry and Sergei should go to jail? Yeah, I agree!! /s - shtonkalot, on 06/26/2009, -1/+12This TBP sounds great!
What happened to TPB though? - o76923, on 06/26/2009, -0/+11In reponse to HADOPI (the french 3 strikes torrenting, no internet rule) was struck down by their highest court. Access to the internet was ruled a fundamental human right. They ruled it fell under the rights to free speech and free association and that something as trivial as torrenting does not justify taking away those rights.
I'm pretty sure kopi explained the reasons they're citing better. But the truth is, internet access is actually a really big deal and legally can't be regulated any more harshly than going to church or criticizing your government. - Aeroboy, on 06/26/2009, -2/+12I wonder whether the weather will be nice.
- sirhomer, on 06/26/2009, -5/+15The right to due process is a perfectly valid and reasonable human right, and one that many people believe was violated in this case due to the professional associations of the judge.
Most people on Digg and most of the Internet community feel that the copyright system is fundamentally broken as of today. We live in a post-scarcity information world where every human being can have access the all of the world's knowledge and culture and the only thing keeping this from happening is the current legal system. The legal system around copyright was designed before the Internet was even considered as a concept, and fails measurably when all people have the tools to make perfect replicas of all the worlds information.
What we need is a new system which rewards content authors without impeding the information age's content dissemination and sharing technologies. - Moralogic, on 06/26/2009, -4/+13Wrong, I have made software and games that have been torrented without purchase, and am perfectly fine with it. Besides the fact that it spreads the word about the existence of the software and games, the consumer community is pretty far statistically when it comes down to it. Though many people torrent it, a decent number still purchase even though they know they have it for free.
It is all about pricing fairly, or giving the option to donate money instead of purchase so the price is fair to them given their financial situation and the value of the product to them. - krystofr, on 06/26/2009, -4/+13I got The Pirate Bay to TKO Sweden in Round 7
- ibic, on 06/26/2009, -5/+14Digg to support the bay.
- kleon777, on 06/26/2009, -4/+12He meant The Butt Pirates.
- DarkCloud515, on 06/26/2009, -2/+9ARRRRGGG~!!!!!
- 9enisP, on 06/26/2009, -3/+10I got a place they can stay when its time to run.
- Jarasmen, on 06/26/2009, -1/+8I can pin a ***** sheet of paper to a cork board on some corridor, than anybody can write an URL of a torrent, or a rapidshare link on it. Should I be put to jail then?
- o76923, on 06/26/2009, -0/+7no its like a judge who doesn't like black people overseeing a lynching.
- battins, on 06/26/2009, -1/+8The implications of the case is that people that actually pirate aren't personally liable but people that host torrents can be sued for millions and jailed.
- Tenoq, on 06/26/2009, -5/+12Or you're getting buried because the rest of us believe in the simple right to a fair trial.
- uzytkownik, on 06/26/2009, -0/+6Well. I guess you mean their judges. People tend to state that's a 'shame' (at least some).
- NobodyWhoCares, on 06/26/2009, -5/+11That's the point Mecharabbit.. apparently the law is for sale in Sweeden, and it only applies when the judge feels its convenient. Hence their lawsuit. This lawsuit's got nothing to do with file sharing, it's about their courts and judges following their laws all the time, not when they think they have to or they feel it's popular.
- uzytkownik, on 06/26/2009, -0/+6@locojones: The question is not about if it according to American Law or if it is morally right. The question the judges in Sweeden have to answer is if it is legal or illegal in Sweeden.
While IANAL and I'm only hearing some interpretation the connections of judge were at least interesting and judge should not take the case as it might've been biased. That was a root of this case. And every human being - no matter how moral or immoral one is and how legal or illegal action one is doing - have right to just process - including even Hitler.
PS. I don't have to justified my downloads. All I downloaded is legal - or at least I'm beliving it is legal (FreeBSD, various GNU/Linux distros...). - MaxIsBored, on 06/26/2009, -1/+6@locojones, "Why don't you get your heads out of your asses and read through the Amnesty International 2009 human rights violations report. Take a look at the oppression, the suffering, the genocide, and the despair happening worldwide, and maybe, just maybe (though i'm not holding my breath), you'll realize what real human rights violations are."
And what relevance does this have to TPB suing for human rights violations? TPB didn't create the guidelines of what was considered human rights, they're about to defend themselves after being exploited.
The world isn't as black and white as you seem to perceive it. Just because there are indeed other, much more severe violations doesn't make the less significant issues frivolous. - blowjustinup, on 06/26/2009, -1/+6They're going on the angle that the judge was biased.. Which I believe to be true. Since that is the case, the trial was unfair. Being that the trial was unfair, any punishment received by anyone at TPB is also unfair, which = a human right violation.
- Rapheal99, on 06/26/2009, -7/+12up until now i'd been a fan of Sweden,
but i'm afraid i'm going to have to add
***** SWEDEN!
to the
***** THE RIAA
***** THE MPAA
***** ALL THE A'S.
LONG LIVE, THE PIRATE BAY!
remember kids. caps lock is cruise control for cool... - Endrian, on 06/26/2009, -0/+5When you think like that, the terrorists have won.
. . .
I mean, the RIAA.
Same difference. - ayeroxor, on 06/26/2009, -1/+6I think it's the French acronym, like "Te Beix Piratte"
/no?
/freedom fries? - exeprime, on 06/26/2009, -0/+4Hello Galt. How's your trolling business coming along?
- ranon78, on 06/26/2009, -1/+5I am all for TPB.
But I think that they are fighting a loosing battle. - inactive, on 06/26/2009, -1/+5I said the same thing the last time galtshrugged posted on digg about this topic, he is a ***** idiot and i now have independent confirmation :D
- o76923, on 06/26/2009, -1/+5except that the judge was advocating the law change to become stronger than it actually is and this case just so happened to give him a chance to set judicial precedent to take a more conservative stance than the law provides. Hand picking cases off the docket just so you can become a super activist judge holding the minority opinion even among conservatives on IP is not justice.
If you think we're objecting because IP law is corrupt, anti-artist, and strongly opposed by facts, you're only seeing a small part of the picture. - Tecton1c, on 06/26/2009, -3/+7Because supporting copyright is so biased, isn't it? hahaha. This case was never about whether copyright infringement is illegal or not anyway - just whether or not the TPB creators were liable for any of the rampant copyright infringement occurring through the use of their website.
- rk23x, on 06/26/2009, -1/+5As many above comments have said, the human right they are saying is violated is most likely the right to a fair trial, as the judge who presided over the case was a member of several pro-copyright advocacy groups and therefore was likely biased.
- timlump, on 06/26/2009, -2/+6@locojones: While what TPB does is clearly not morally right, the copyright and patent system is amazingly broken. If this is what it takes to shake it up then so be it. The world is full of companies making ridiculous amount of submarine patents which are solely to catch out companies who happen to have the idea later e.g controller vibration (microsoft,nintendo and sony were all sued over that and so lost and thats why the initial PS3 did not have rumble shock). The intellectual property protections can also go over board with many companies like EA aggressively protecting the Copyrights of games thay have not been in circulation for over a decade. Finally these guys are one of the few things preventing the internet from being fully segregated by country, if you havent noticed recently (you probably havent if you live in America) but I you don't live in America or Britain alot of internet services are not available to you because of whatever arbitrary country you were born e.g hulu,spiral fron,bbc iPlayer, 4OD.
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