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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+185a pirate giving money back? are you insane?
- nasium, on 10/12/2007, -7/+115Refunds anyone?
- VaporBro, on 10/26/2007, -3/+85I donated $4.20. I could have used that money to buy cheeseburgers.
- TheCount, on 10/12/2007, -5/+66I knew this would happen. Anyone that gave them money should feel cheated, but it's not like they ever stood a snowballs chance in hell of founding their own nation. Now, I wonder whose pockets that money will wind up in.
They better figure out a chairty to give this money to quick, or they'll risk having all the people that backed them when they were being given hell turn on them. - Robotsu, on 10/12/2007, -8/+53What the ***** is everyone so bitter about? Seriously, what did you all expect? A sweet distant island where hackers and pirates around the world can crash, get ***** up and pirate movies and music all day?? I donated money, and no I don't feel like an *****, I don't demand a refund, and I really could care less what they spend the $10 I gave them on. I had the cash, they asked for it, and I gave it. No, I didn't once for a second believe it was realistic for a couple of pirates from sweden to actually buy their own territory or even raise the amount of money necessary for such a transaction. I gave a measly $10 because I use their site just about every day, and I like their services. That's it.
Hell, I'd rather they spend the ten bucks on some booze or a few bowls or something. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+48Anyone who gave them money was an idiot. You think the actual goal for that site is to "stick one to the man"?
If that was the goal .. why the merchandise range, 2 banners, text link ads and the adult whatever crap down the side that collectively would be netting them thousands a day.
Same goes for isohunt though they seem to avoid publicity - why donate (essentially paying to pirate stuff) when they're throwing ads at you from every direction ... - TuxedosRevenge, on 10/12/2007, -7/+41They can send my refund right back over to the Free Nation Foundation.
- Nick22, on 10/12/2007, -18/+47Im glad I decided not to donate to the pirate bay, and instead donated to the freenation foundation. Im proud to call myself a pirate, and I always thought the pirate bay owned... but now they are just a bunch of fags.
- TheCount, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29You do see the irony in asking if what they did is legal when their whole company is founded on hosting bootlegged software/movies/music/etc right? These guys aren't exactly model citizens.
- Ignignokt01, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32They're pirates, you idiot.
I love how everyone expects a bunch of guys who do illegal (but awesome) things to somehow act all morally now. - noreturn, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33I honestly don't feel sorry for anyone stupid enough to donate money to a stupid cause that was clearly going to fail from the start. Glad the piratebay kids are going back to what they know: piracy.
- kKhan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27No, they said they were doing that a month ago. Now they're on to Plan C: take the money and run.
- bonch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24GawtMilk:
"LONG LIVE TPB! WE CAN DOWNLOAD ALL WE WANT FOR FREE, THE MPAA SUCKS! Hey, wait. Some guy just used a picture off of deviantART without asking. LET'S GET THAT STEALING *****. BURN IN HELL *****."
Such an example is proof that Diggers are self-centered and only adopt moral causes when it benefits one of "their own." Same reason they cry out when someone "steals" Digg's design or shuts down a torrent site or "steals" GPL code. Yet it's okay to rip off music, movies, and games (the reason for the dwindling PC gaming industry today and the mass exodus to consoles). The average age of the readership here really dropped when Digg became popular, so instead of awesome programming and technical articles, we get a 14-year-old's view of what's important--The Pirate Bay, the MPAA, endless posts about Kevin Rose, etc.
Heck, I risk losing my account just for posting this, because I'll probably be modded down into oblivion for speaking out. Whatever. - GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25LONG LIVE TPB! WE CAN DOWNLOAD ALL WE WANT FOR FREE, THE MPAA SUCKS! Hey, wait. Some guy just used a picture off of deviantART without asking. LET'S GET THAT STEALING *****. BURN IN HELL *****.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Help keep the site running? The site is a business. If you want to donate to help keep something running pick a worthwhile charity.
From what I've read digg.com makes about $60k a month off advertising. TPB has roughly 1/3 the traffic if Alexa's to be believed, but more gaudy advertising and merchandise they actually put time and effort into (*cough* slapping your logo on stock clothing does not a product make). At the least they'd be making ~$20k a month. I'm quite sure their hosting doesn't cost anywhere near that much - linux servers start and stay cheap for decent hardware. If there wasn't a healthy profit margin they wouldn't still exist.
Clearly they don't need to steal from people who had/have goodwill to them. - Inferus3141, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Hopefully they'll be kind enough to throw the cash towards us at http://www.freenationfoundation.org
Probably not though. - Robotsu, on 10/12/2007, -9/+25That's an even bigger waste. At least TPB actually provides a service. FNF is just an internet forum... a benign basin where dreams will go to become stagnant and eventually die. I mean, I like the idea, but let's be realistic here.
- Viva43, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16what the hell did any of you expect?!
seriously!? - Ralith, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Not for purposes of hosting their servers somewhere legally secure, though, which was their stated intent when they took people's money. I wonder if what they've done (solicited donations for a false premise) is even legal.
- sfacets, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16A scam, pure and simple - what did you expect from self-confessed pirates?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Still fraud. They solicited money under false pretenses. They never said it would be used to buy a new server.
- bonch, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Now, this is amusing. People paid money to a bunch of pirates (instead of, say, paying money to the hard-working people whose stuff you're pirating), and now we find out it was all a ruse and people want their money back! Sorry, guys, you reap what you sow. I know I risk downmods for saying this (Digg's readership is apparently pro-piracy and anti-artist), but you guys must feel like a software developer feels when he finds his game on a torrent site or a small artist when they find their entire discography in a RAR file on eMule--ripped off.
- 1337Einstein, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12They could've at least spent it on an actual ship, sure they can swindle people, but what self respecting pirate does not yearn for a ship?
- HomelessDepot, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17Wow, lot of haters. If you contributed money ONLY because you actually thought they would successfully purchase Sealand with 20 grand... then rest assured they'll use the money better than you would have.
- ZheAldo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I'm laughing my ass off right now.
Wikipedia could not raise such an ammount of money. This was a scam from the start... a lot of people on the Earth want to be underground, to say "Hey, I'm a dangerous hacker, I download illegal music and I'm a Pirate from Sealand, yeah, I mean it, I gave them 10$."
Fold your bandana and throw away your saber... Dress with clean clothes, and get a life. - mrletstrade, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14it's a big crock of s**t and to think i had nothing but love 4 them
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11newport...if you thought that they were going to get much more than $20,000, you need to come back and live on Planet Earth.
- OisinT, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Agreed... I love being a part of the FNF!
- gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8At least you get a CD when you give the RIAA money :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14I think they should have a big raffle and give that cash away
- bonch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Why are you proud to call yourself a pirate? You're "proud" to make sure not to pay some artist whose material you're ripping off? What about a team of game developers who worked crunch-time for three months so their product would be entertaining and worth buying? You're proud not to pay them?
I just don't get that mindset. I guess my real question is, how old are you and do you have a job? I strongly suspect you're either in high school or a college dorm. I can't imagine you'd ever be proud of your boss if he didn't give you a paycheck for your work. - Democritus2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9robot- yeah yeah whatever. Its really ***** hard standing on the sidelines and declaring the objective to be doomed. Bet you really feel swell and smart. Gee nothing in this world started out as an idea first. Hmmmmmm.
Goes for anyone who dugg up such a lame comment too. - vhold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Nothing says defensible sovereign nation quite like: "our main principle is the lack of acknowledgment of other countrys' copyright laws."
... - livejamie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7so some pirates did some bad things, WHAT?!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9It is kind of funny actually. They act like such immature, high school maturity pricks with all heir repleis to companies, and now they may have screwed themselves. this is illegal in EVERY country. They may have opened themselves up to prosecution that the RIAA, MPAA, etc. couldn't get them on.
And no courts will be lenient on them. - Robotsu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Citations anyone? Seriously, I'd love to see a single reference to any of the nonesense you just said.
- asdfrewq, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"I wonder if what they've done (solicited donations for a false premise) is even legal."
Yeah, only in Sweden. Via a loophole.
;) - bonch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Aw, did you get...ripped off? One might even say...pirated?
Welcome to feelings of all the people whose stuff you never paid for. - PixelVision, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I bet you just saw "pirate bay want to buy an island" and donated because it sounds like a good idea, when really if you actually considered the costs involved not only buying the place but also moving everything to it, moving the people to it and defending it (yes Sealand was once attacked and a lot of small islands in various places are attacked by real pirates), then you would have realised that unless some crazy billionaire started throwing his money at it then it would never have happened. You need to be more careful with your money, think about what you're investing in.
- Jesse, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6So... people are in a huff because they gave money to self-proclaimed "pirates" who wanted to create a "pirate nation" and it didn't work??
To think, that's money that could've went towards, oh, i don't know, music cds, dvds, computer games, programs, and, of course, pornography. - rehkcts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I gave them $5,000. Damn.
- wisie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4enough of the pirate jokes!
- AnotherCanadian, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I love those crazy Swedish bastards. they always make me laugh (in a good way!)
- ZippidyDoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Pretty pointless when people are stupid enough to just give you money.
- merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"Heck, I risk losing my account just for posting this, because I'll probably be modded down into oblivion for speaking out. Whatever."
Lol. Little over dramatic there. From what I've seen, even the very worst trolls last months, if not longer, without being banned from digg. I wouldn't know if they last any longer than that, 'cause I always block 'em before long. - SteelChicken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4wait....they took something that didn't belong to them?
say it aint so. - getcates, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4goffy59
What about charities like St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis, Tennessee?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Jude_Children%27s_Research_Hospital
Stop going around being negative about all good causes because frankly, you don't know what your talking about! - LiberalAK, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This is so stupid.
The priate bay had no more "plans" to buy SeaLand than I did.
SeaLand was looking for something around 100 MILLION dollars.
How much did The Pirate Bay raise? A couple THOUSAND!
The Pirate Bay couldn't buy a CONDO, or even build a nice GARAGE with that money, let alone a country!
So stuipd... great marketing on the pirate bay's part, got you suckers to believe such junk. - shark72, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"I think they should have a big raffle and give that cash away"
How about this:
- They look at the most popular torrents for music over the past year
- They divide up the money and send it to the musicians who recorded the music. Not the record labels... the musicians.
I'm joking, of course. It will never happen. - jtcalhoun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Surely no one REALLY thought The Pirate Bay's user base, many of whom can't be bothered to contribute even $10 to the legal purchase of music they enjoy, would raise enough money not only for the transfer of Sealand ($1 billion USD), but also to build the infrastructure necessary to operate this "pirate utopia." The fundraiser and now the "outrage" that will result have but one purpose: to drive more visitors to the site.
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