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- Aidenag, on 10/12/2007, -11/+205you forgot to mention thier soon to open Moonbase!
- Jonny5alive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+93If they are pirates then the mars footprint's would have been peg legged.
- shiftt, on 10/12/2007, -5/+91you know, 20 years ago, nobody would ever think of Russia as a safe haven for ANYTHING.
now look at us.. allofmp3.com.... pirate bay.... what's next? - RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -11/+91Interesting that the site is now half-hosted in two border-line countries. If the authorities can't seize the servers because they're located in countries like Russia and Ukraine that don't care, they will simply go after the users. Afterall, thanks to bittorrent's design, every dowloader is also a distributer. Technology has advanced so that piracy facilitaters are harder to stamp out, but it has also increased the legal risk for the average joe.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+84I'm never buying another DVD ever again, just to spite the MPAA.
- Continuum, on 10/12/2007, -1/+63I think many people are so proud of TPB due to the fact that the RIAA/MPAA have been so arrogant in the past and have extorted many people out of thousands of dollars for simply downloading a couple hundred songs.
In many respects, TPB vs. RIAA/MPAA is a Robin Hood story for our times. We teach children that Robin Hood was a hero and really, how is this much different? - fjoggen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+60Disclaimer:
I am not Swedish, have a hangover and dyslexia. Expect errors!
Translation:
The Pirate Bay announced in Copenhagen that its site(...) will be in four copies: Holland, Russia, Ukraine plus one more country in the EU. they insist that it will happen and they are working on it right now. They then added two more countries, one inside the EU and one outside the EU, where announce-servers would be located, which means the servers which stores the "tracker files", but not the website.
"When we say on the net that we are from the Pirate Bay in Sweden and we need help with some hardware and hosting we immediately receive offers of help in the spirit of solidarity. Pirate Bay will be stronger than ever!" - Flinty, on 10/12/2007, -1/+49What doesn't kill `em makes `em stronger :D
- joeshlub, on 10/12/2007, -3/+45Not even the man can keep them down.
- tlogank, on 10/12/2007, -0/+41Want to call the MPAA people that made the press release? Here are their number's and extension's to their direct deskphone. Those of us in the US can just call from Skype...it's private and free! These are the contact people on that infamous press release made by the MPAA:
Dan Glickman (MPAA President): (202)293-1966 ext.112
John Feehery: (202)293-1966 ext.193
Gayle Oserberg: (202)293-1966 ext.139 (she is actually in the office today)
Kori Bernards: (818)995-6600 ext.130
Elizabeth Kaltman: (818)995-6600 ext.293
Give them a call and tell them thank you for creating a stronger community among us. - Continuum, on 10/12/2007, -2/+42Downloading copyrighted material is NOT stealing. It is copyright violation.
Different laws, different punishments. - lotus22, on 10/12/2007, -1/+40Why don't we all chip in and buy them a small hut in Antartica so they can run their servers there?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+41Good work! *thumbs up*
- fjoggen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+41I love the the new logo
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+40"the DMCA is what makes that illegal"
When will you Americans learn? Not everyone lives in America. Yeah, I know, you're shocked, but it's true.
Should I add a link to a map of the world, or is this too much information already? - jinexile, on 10/12/2007, -1/+36"the DMCA is what makes that illegal."
Contrary to popular belief, the DCMA is not international law, it is only applicable in USA - sinn0304, on 10/12/2007, -1/+35wouldnt have to worry about keeping the servers cool, would we...
- soogy, on 10/12/2007, -9/+42They're moving to Russia! http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/4060/sovietbay9xs.jpg
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+33The Arctic Bay 5 Colo is down
Reason(Polar Bears Eat the Rack) - pornel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+33I hate that legal movies have FBI warnings and "ads" ment to scare crap out of honest consumers. Pirated movies don't have that unskippable crap. I prefer the no-brainwash version.
- babbling, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29Indeed. The MPAA is lucky they didn't have to walk the plank...
- KriLL3.2™, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26That's why I translated the important part. ;)
- Petarded, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27Maybe because Alaska is part of the US.
- RPharazon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28This is a message to all the anti-pirating orginizations. Don't dick around with pirates!
- Laurentvw, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26Great to hear that, though I can't read Swedish unfortunately...
- GuyHitByTruck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25Yeah.. TPB.org is kinda creepy.
- n0xie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Speaking of Google, when are they going to seize google servers? I mean google saves metadata as well, and just add "filetype:torrent" to a google query and you'll get nice links to torrents. How is what piratebay does anything different than what google does?
Also google is making money of their search service. In affect they're selling illegal content since they provide links to 'pirated' material. (that's the argument all hypocrites like the MPAA use: they're providing links ergo they're breaking laws) Adding "filetype:mp3" makes it just as efficient as most p2p networks (limewire, gnutella)
The hypocracy is dazzling... - cyclotron, on 10/12/2007, -9/+30@ djjoemex "so plz tell me what's illegal in this?"
Are you serious? Wow. OK, first of all bit torrent is distributing to thousands and millions of users. Second the vhs betamax agreement was for personal use. THe moment anyone uploads to the internet, its no longer for personal use.
You really ought to know basics like this. - digger_twit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Keep in mind that http://tpb.org/ is not the same thing as http://thepiratebay.org.
- VladSharp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Well, first of all, they're not hosting anything illegal. Torrents = metadata. They're as legal as Google is.
- 7IM80, on 10/12/2007, -9/+29Does anyone care about what comes out of hollywood anymore? I think not.
- phreakout, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Because Piracy is a right.
The right to access and participate in the culture that surrounds you.
The DMCA and EUCD prevent the right of fairuse and fairdealing.
They have gone way too far. The laws are draconian. The losses are lies - a listener is NOT a lost sale.
The laws have been used to prevent the creation of art.
I refer to sampling and mashups.
So called Intellectual-Property laws prevent medical advances, technological innovation and competition. These laws main function is as cudgels for large corporations to prevent creativity and advance.
To prevent social change and the paradigm shift to an Open Society.
Until the balance is restored the civil disobedience will continue.
It is a moral duty to break unjust laws.
International Law states that morality is greater than national laws.
Welcome to the backlash you greedy pigs.
Of course the **AA loves all this - the more pirates then the more noobs and mommies to blackmail for money.
How can they sleep at night? Simple their souls have rotted away.
Stupid Schills and MPAA astroturfers, do not think your crimes are lesser, you are collaborators - vile fifth columnists.
Some people believe copyright should go away or be lessened but everyone who thinks about society and not greed agrees they have gone too far and must be stopped.
Read "freedom of expression" here is a free pdf of it
http://kembrew.com/books/
it shows in great but uncomplicated detail how Intellectual Property Laws are destroying society and killing people daily.
Get facts for the fight ahead
Get educated before you whine on about how "LOST" costs money to make. - babbling, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23Join with me and say "Arrrrrr!!"
- redneckblues, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Pot, piracy and hookers. Sounds good to me.
- iSEPIC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17copying digital content is not stealing, and if any laws are to be written to say so, it's because of the stupidity of the government (mostly the US) to allow such people in power to obtain pockets of cash from corporate gluttons (mpaa, riaa, etc.).
- whahaa, on 10/12/2007, -8/+24it ain't just movies bro. it's software too!
and besides... look at how much money hollywood makes regardless of piracy. this ain't exactly making or breaking the industry. all it's doing is allowing folks who wouldn't waste their money on theaters or dvds ANYWAY to watch the flicks on their computers. i remember one mpaa report claiming that due to internet piracy they're losing something like a bazillion dollars a year. well you can't lose what you never had, right?
(and now for some flamebait)
personally, it sickens me that what should be considered an art form is more often thought of as a business. it's backwards. take a look at the painting industry. i have several painter friends who try to make a living as fine artists. they usually put photos of their paintings up on their website, free for anyone to download. does enjoying these paintings on a computer screen cause them to lose money? no freakin way. why? cuz looking at a painting on a computer screen isn't the same as buying and owning one to put on your wall.
same goes for movies. if someone wants to watch a movie on their computer monitor, it is not a replacement for the movie theater experience. you can't download a big screen and 36 point surround system can you?
fact is, digital information is the future and that information wants to be free, whether it be video, audio, software, books, or whatever can be converted to ones and zeroes.
seen any anti-pirate bay biased opinions lately outside of the mpaa press release? no? why? cuz it seems as though most people are in favor of them staying alive.
the internet is not a country, so it shouldn't be liable to any nation's laws. however, it does have it's own set of justifiable unwritten laws. majority rules and anything goes that doesn't physically hurt or endanger a life. pirate bay is not endangering anyone or anything. all they're doing is giving people what they want and making rich bastards fret about money they think they're owed.
can't fight the future. - GuyHitByTruck, on 10/12/2007, -7/+23They had culture in those servers?! Holy *****!
- Travelsonic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15"According to law it's stealing, and quite publicly at that. "
You mean the same law that accuses the people of COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT or piracy?
It's not theft, it might be illegal, might be wrong to varying degrees depending on people, but iy is prosecuted as copyright infringement, and only as such. - soogy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Imageshack sucks. http://www.padlockhost.com/images/sovietbay.jpg
- pkkid, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19A nice graph to see the popularity of the pirate bay:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=pirate+bay%2C+mpaa%2C+digg&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
I will be excited to see this graph in another month or so. :) - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16"they will simply go after the users"
Hey, that would be, like, a LEGAL thing to do in Sweden! - lnxaddct, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18I love the title. "The Police Bay" haha these guys are awesome, witty as hell too.
- Ryosen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Getting the IP addresses from the site's logs wouldn't do them any good. With all of the publicity that this media event got, there have been a ton of visitors that haven't even heard of BitTorrent. The story prompted my first visit to The Pirate Bay and I don't do P2P filesharing. They can have my IP address all they want. I don't download files, I'm not a 12 year old girl and I'm not an 82 year old grandma. I think that makes me pretty safe from the **AA.
- iSEPIC, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15its about time, you should have started that "rule" last year, esp with the Sony ***** pumping the average consumers ass with ***** they themselves would have hauled your ass off to jail for (rootkits on something you legitimately bought)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -14/+26Gratz! I'm very happy to know that in less than 3 days the tracker is back!
Back in the days of VHS and Betamax, people recorded tv shows in their vcr's to watch programs at night when they were at work. This was not illegal, so today many of the tv shows you download from Bit torrent, are shows that were broadcasted freely in tv, but you just missed it becase you were not home, so plz tell me what's illegal in this?
I am going to record some Fifa world Cup Soccer games in my PC in MPEG-2 with Cyberlink's Power VCR II, then share it with Bit torrent. I challenge every expert lawyer of the MPAA to tell if this is illegal and why. - rouslan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16Its better to downoad movies because it leaves room for customization-Not all of us want to have commentaries, FBI warnings, commercials on the copy.
Plus its fun to burn the actual movie on a dvd disk that cost 5 cents than to waste $20 on one (1) movie w/commericals, etc. and brainwashing FBI warnings.
pirate cost$=0.05*#movies 20 (for a cheap DVD-RW /-DL burner)
legal cost$=(20*#movies)*.05 (for sales tax in the US)
Even if cost is not a concern to you, you will feel the guilt of supporting the evil MPAA organization with your $.
Read this:-it shows their excitement of "sinking" the piratebay:
http://www.mpaa.org/press_releases/2006_05_31.pdf
2006_06_03-Bad news for them!! - gregs2500, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13"Have you noticed that those "sure things" aren't making as much money anymore? 'Cause I sure have." -dvddesign
Yeah, you're right. X-Men 3 only made 122 batrillion dollars. I mean, that's basically pocket change. - kupodan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11well, the itunes model has proven this. iTunes was a billion dollar industry and this is in the middle of the heyday of piracy. I don't think people are wanting to pirate as much as they are wanting to have things the way they need it.
- stesun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Entapment by the police is illegal in sweden, so this is just stupid to think this is some way to get p2p users.
- slamm6, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I ripped this great line from JolietJake at Slyck in regards to TPB seeking compensation for their confiscated servers.
Until compensation is given i say we rename swedish meatballs "freedom balls". -
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