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- HitmanJustin, on 10/11/2007, -6/+151so let me get this straight.... Anti-Piracy Authorities may be uploading kiddie porn to the pirate bay servers, in an attempt to shut them down? Thats just ***** sick...
- astmanager, on 10/11/2007, -5/+102While you can argue the ethics of trackers like The Pirate Bay until you're blue in the face, the fact remains that The Pirate Bay is, to all appearances, not an intentional repository for child porn. As Brokep points out, if you go publishing kiddy porn on a public torrent tracker, you are going to end up in jail, so such a site isn't even an intelligent way to distribute kiddy porn, even if you wanted to. Add to that the fact that all attempts by the people over at TPB to ascertain what is really going on have been ignored and you begin to understand why conspiracy sounds more and more likely. Gotta love government officials - they're the same the world over: crooked, ignorant and manipulative.
- JimDinger, on 10/11/2007, -6/+76What they need is a button that says reaport this torrent then a drop down with a list of reasons.
I agree that there is to much CP on TPB,and that by fighting this one they will be hurting themselves.
^----gets ready to be buried. - LoganSerman, on 10/11/2007, -11/+58Thats *****.
- Batiu-Drami, on 10/11/2007, -1/+37My.Little.Pony.2007.CLONEDVD+KEYGEN-RAZOR.torrent
Reported: OK, this is lame. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+32I love the new sentiment the authorities have created with their actions: You are either for child pornography or against The Pirate Bay!
What a polarized load of baseless *****. - Vich, on 10/11/2007, -5/+36I think tzonic meant child porn when he said "garbage"
whereas I think syxle thought he meant the pirate bay.
Given the story I can understand how both conclusions could be drawn - tzonic, on 10/11/2007, -2/+30I certainly did mean child porn=garbage. I think many are influenced by their liking of TPB, to the point where they dismiss these recent events as conspiracies to shut down TPB. Take a look at this: http://thepiratebay.org/top/603 That's the Top 100 list for images, you can navigate to it in two clicks from their home page. Theres quite a bit of garbage on that page, with quite a bit of comments posted by self-admitted pedophiles. I think many of you need to re-consider what exactly ethical means, and who the real stakeholders in this situation are.
Is it really that far fetched that the Swedish police are genuinely concerned for the well-being of children?
I do like TPB, its a great site, but they do need to take this stuff down...technicalities or not, these kids are being exploited to the benefit of perverts. - geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+23Copyright is good. Abuse of copyright and endless extensions of copyright is not.
Patents are good. Bogus patents and patent trolling are not.
Digg's community needs to learn shades of gray and stop the groupthink, it's toxic. - theWaterboy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20Amen to that. How ironic. The Pirate Bay ISN'T breaking ANY laws, yet the authorities ARE. How ironic it is when people realize that just because a law exists in America, doesn't mean ***** in another country. I love my country, don't get me wrong. But when RIAA and MPAA can actually try to screw with another sovereign nation by trying to apply U.S. law in that country, that is the time for the other countries to say, 'What the *****?? Do you actually think WE care what YOUR laws are?'
The answer should be a resounding 'NO' - just as if we were to allow Iran to apply their laws here in America. How crazy would that be? - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -20/+36STFU retard.
- gunslinger37, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17dugg for
"Most people will probably agree that child porn is sick, but using it to filter the Internet is just disgusting." - Vich, on 10/11/2007, -5/+21Swedish authorities' claim buried as inaccurate
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+21People need to RTFA and actually understand what is being said. The Pirate Bay is not distributing child porn! Read the articles before you jump on that bandwagon. That is why the authorities did this. They know that once they paint them as distributors of child porn that no one will even care that the claims are bogus.
whatever *floods ballasts* - OswaldKenobi, on 10/11/2007, -4/+18I don't know about Sweden, but in the United States, that is illegal. Any good lawyer would have it thrown out in a mere moment.
- Malbene, on 10/11/2007, -5/+19Hey, the ends must justify the means. Right?
- geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14No that'll just restart the world's X server. The underlying daemons are what need to be stopped.
[sudo] shutdown -r now. - theWaterboy, on 10/11/2007, -6/+17You're right. The people posting any child pornography should be arrested because that is both ILLEGAL, and IMMORAL; whereas sharing files is not illegal for the pirate bay.
** PS: I don't understand why people are modding you down. Maybe they're stoopid? - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+16TPB maintains that there is no child pornography on their site. I believe the issue is that the authorities are just saying that so they can get them blacklisted in sweden. They are making it up to take them down under false pretenses (hence crying "Conspiracy")
- WarcraftJunkie, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11umm.. your joking right? yeah your on digg, and inplying copyright is good.. must be a joke.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Well I am glad to see Ministers and powerful men have nothing better to do than screw people....
- specialK16, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Yay at logical fallacies!
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8and you two are *****
- cquinnd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8So all someone should have to do is report it as CP (no matter what the actual content is) and the trackers should summarily remove it?
The MPAA and RIAA would love that.
If it is CP, then the local authorities should be working with TPB to flag such content, and investigate those who spread it (such as they did with the recent international effort againts a child porn ring). If it is not CP, then I think TPB should have a way to protect themselves from people trying to use that as a means to game the system. - cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+8I'm pretty sure he's being sarcastic.
- Anthet, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Bodström is every geeks nemesis, the guy is a real danger to our open society I'm afraid.
- OswaldKenobi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8In Sweden, it is legal to download copyrighted material, so the pirate bay is not doing anything illegal. Don't even talk about amoral actions when the RIAA is involved. People should be downloading copyrighted music just on basic moral principle after all the amoral and illegal behavior the RIAA has displayed.
- OswaldKenobi, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10They are uploading child porn to the pirate bay servers to shut pirate bay down for distributing child porn. They aren't interested in tracking anybody.
- 80hd, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Who else would die laughing if studio's were caught uploading child porn torrents onto TPB to try and get them shut down. I'd love to see them get humiliated yet again.
- fmorel90, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6hear hear*
/grammar nazi - acceptab1euname, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5This isn't just a single, out-of-context photo of somebody's nude child at the beach, though - they're whole sets of photos of other people's kids at the beach and the like. They're very obviously being passed around by people who get off to such images, and admit as such on the website. Maybe it's not *technically* child porn, but if it was a photograph of YOUR kid was in one of those image packs, I bet you'd be singing a different tune.
- hyrate, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5and how did you discover that, pray tell?
- actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"Would have it thrown out" i.e. would make the proper argument to have the judge throw it out.
- specialK16, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5but that would kill us all...
sudo killall idiots - LukyJay, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9Not really, the problem is that these torrents have already been reported but the trackers refuse to remove them.
- Netrilix, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Heh, the placement of "it" really changes the meaning. And makes richardiscool look like a ***** himself.
- fanclerks, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I honestly wonder what would happen if they did that. That would get around the Swedish laws, but what about all their utilities and stuff? I wouldn't be surprised if they did move to the island and had issues with having their connections to the mainland cut.
- REBELinBLUE, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Unless I am misunderstanding, that says that a foreign author is protected by the law of a country as if they were a domestic author, not they are protected by their own countries law in another country. i.e. a US author is protected by Swedish law in Sweden as if they were a Swedish citizen, not by US law; just as a Swedish author is protected by US law in the US as if they were a US citizen not by Swedish law. "The Berne Convention also resulted in foreign authors being treated equivalently to domestic authors, in any country signed onto the Convention."
edit* - According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works that is exactly what it means "The Berne Convention requires its signatories to recognise the copyright of works of authors from other signatory countries (known as members of the Berne Union) in the same way it recognises the copyright of its own nationals, which means that, for instance, French copyright law applies to anything published or performed in France, regardless of where it was originally created." - Allanon, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6The Pirate Bay doesn't host the material, they just host torrents which are just links to the movie and picture files. If they are going to go after TPB then they should also go after search engines because I'm pretty sure search engines would have more links to child porn and pirated movies than TPB. For example most search engines have a link to TPB.
- Amablue, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I disagree with what you're say; getting exposure online can get you recognition enough to make you money. Regardless, I'm not going to debate you on the topic since that's not what I asked at all.
- CaseyTokyo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Is it just me? I can't see http://bayimg.com .
- SenorCardgage74, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4here here
- qwuinc, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7CP and terrorism - the best tools for people with an agenda; anything that incites strong emotions in people is a nifty tool to control opinions of masses.
Now, people should be asking themselves: "How does the removal of CP torrents help children?" As pointed out in various blogs and comments, there will always be controversial material in the internet. The question is whether the "trading" is done in the daylight (aka. TPB) where the police could-if they wanted to-easily track the parties leeching/seeding the files, or in the darknets, untraceable.
Not to mention that removal of such material does nothing to address the actual problem-helping the children facing abuse. All it does is that it removes the said material from the public eyes, and sings a sweet lullaby for people who like to think the problem has been solved and the sun keeps shining... - ujjwal, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6There's absolutely no evidence of that yet, and I highly doubt that will happen.
I agree it's sick if true, but so are many other hypotheticals. - actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Wish I could digg you up more. The idea went from HitmanJustin's tongue-in-cheek suggestion to a "fact" in only three comments. Jeez, people are idiots.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4It's ***** up that TPB would rather protect kiddy porn than admit they have the power to selectively remove torrents. Of course that would force them to acknowledge that the next logical step would be for them to remove material in violation of Sweden's copyright laws.
- TechCF, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Some of the images they claim are chld pr0n is just scans from postal order clothing catalogs...
- richardiscool, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Oh, well as long as it gets flamed in the comments then it doesn't matter if it's being distributed!
- themetree, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2why do you know that?
- JimDinger, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Dude,you really need to learn how to proof read and use spell check.
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