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- listed, on 11/25/2007, -27/+205You know what! Seriously ***** the MPAA & RIAA.. Here is why.. they are so far behind when it comes to distribution of their content. Recently, I've tried to make an effort of purchasing the movies and music I've downloaded off bittorrent, and that's alot of content that I was willing to legally purchase. I saved up to 1,000 $ and was ready to pay back my dues. I was only paying for the stuff I enjoyed, and stuff worth purchasing. That is the beauty of bittorrent.
Tried all the different online stores, and places where I can legally purchase or view their content (Zune Marketplace, iTunes, Amazon, Spiralfrog, Hulu, etc.. , and failed at every attempt. Why? Because this content is always only available for you to download if you live in the US. I live in Egypt! and I have no idea why you would ***** restrict your content only to the US, if you are against piracy, and trying to reduce piracy. It makes no ***** sense! And also wtf are all those restrictions. You can only watch the content 5 times, burn it 6 times, cannot transfer to this or that. ***** YOU! A BIG ***** YOU!
You can't say I didn't try MPAA RIAA, whoever the ***** you are! I even tried to order a dvd off Amazon, but ***** you I aint paying 45 $ for a DVD + Shipment!
Here is my list of demands MPAA, RIAA, IFPI, whoever you 4-initials bitches are..
1. No geographical restrictions whatsoever
2. DRM-less, no restrictions whatsoever
3. Make your movies available for rent, and purchase. Reasonable pricing would be 2-3 $ rent, 6-8 $ purchase. (c'mon you are only paying for bandwidth)
4. CD Quality DRM-less music (320 kbps or kpbs whatever that ***** is)
5. make it easy, hassle-free,
If those demands are not met by let's say mid 2008, I am purchasing 4 2TB WD External Hard Disks, and you'll never see a penny from me.
**Sorry fellow diggers for my grammar, swearing etc.. english isn't my first language and im a lil bit high... - badenglishihave, on 11/25/2007, -5/+115A "public" OiNK would not have been a replacement for OiNK at all. Good move by TPB.
- rhank, on 11/25/2007, -4/+79i was gonna dig you down and then i read the last 5 words....
- acu8509, on 11/25/2007, -3/+49way to compile every digg comment on the subject. but they're all true.
- anrahman, on 11/25/2007, -0/+16I agree - this is a good move by TBP because their OiNK replacement was not even the same as OiNK - probably very similar to the existing audio search function in TPB...
- qwertguk, on 11/25/2007, -10/+23***** THE RIAA
- Elranzer, on 11/25/2007, -0/+13His English is still better than most Diggers'.
- evanstapler, on 11/25/2007, -6/+16As much as I would like to have seen it, it's not necessary anymore. There are much better trackers, now, to fill that void in our heart.
R.I.P. OiNK. - Ashkc88, on 11/25/2007, -4/+13I agree with everything you listed except the pricing on movies. I too like to get things cheap, but they seriously cannot afford to make them that cheap and be able to pay all of their employees. It's not a matter of paying for expenses, it's a matter of earning a profit.
- DCJoeDogaswell, on 11/25/2007, -1/+10The problem with private trackers is, once again, no one wants to give out invites
I just want to download an album every now and then and share the download in the long times in between downloads
I finally have a fast upload speed and no way to contribute because of ***** invites - Dohko_Xar, on 11/25/2007, -1/+9i hope thats not your main email...
- Glansbourg, on 11/25/2007, -1/+9The destruction of OiNK is second only to the fall-out after the fall of Napster in terms of a) media exposure and b) significance to the file sharing community. It's fascinating to watch the story unfold as well as watch the community re-congeal.
- ambiguus, on 11/25/2007, -1/+8Part of the success of OiNK, besides the great content, was the moderation of the files by quality admins. Assuring only high-quality files from original rips. Public trackers don't put the time in to do the work that OiNK had going, I'm not sure what else PB expected.
- sst4ab, on 11/25/2007, -2/+9hows the ganja in egypt?
- stalefries, on 11/25/2007, -2/+8I have to agree. As much as I like really cheap content, there's a realistic minimum price, and I doubt it's as low as the OP says it should be.
- sfacets, on 11/25/2007, -3/+9The Pirate Bay talks a lot, but when push comes to shove, these guys are push overs. Hey... and what happened to the island idea? Are you going to refund the people who put money towards that pipe dream? Was it a scam? Any bloody wonder aXXo left your sorry ass - you truly do not care for your users.
- DCJoeDogaswell, on 11/25/2007, -1/+5exactly, they say be persistent, but if you keep asking you get blacklisted from joining because you are annoying, so what's a guy to do?
- Rijnzael, on 11/25/2007, -1/+5Their goal is to maintain minimum site quality while maintaining maximum attention. They're just like a business, only they capitalize on other peoples' interest in intellectual property via ad revenue. The less they have to spend on actual hardware and bandwidth means more money for them from the bittorrent community. Endeavors like this take time. Rather than actually go through with it, they instead benefit from the attention it garners both in the end and the beginning of the supposed 'effort'. The way they get in the face of the industry is great. I'm glad to have a figure head site that expresses to the industry the feelings of the community with a nice, constant '***** you'. But from the end-user standpoint, ThePirateBay does not really give any reason to promote or even deserve loyalty among their userbase. TPB serves its purpose of getting in the face of the industry for us, but other trackers serve the main purpose of bittorrent much better.
- 4040, on 11/25/2007, -4/+8Actually, that's not funny.
- cactus476, on 11/25/2007, -3/+6Good move? I would personally say bad move for originally bring up the idea.
- YuriSakazaki, on 11/25/2007, -1/+4Good. TPB seemed like they were really capitalizing on something terrible in the community and I really lost a lot of respect for them when they wanted to put up some kind of shoddy, public "replacement".
For those of you waiting on a plate of delicious waffles, everyone ran and got to the waffles before you. But according to recent news, there will be more waffles cooked up and ready to share very soon! - knightboat, on 11/25/2007, -2/+5You're still equating piracy with lost sales, which has never made any sense any time it has been argued. I could download episodes of Mad About You right now for no reason other than just having the ability to do it, but it doesn't mean I would've ever even considered purchasing a DVD set of the show.
Also, advocating ripping and lossy re-encoding of already lossy compressed music files is moronic, and I hope one day you'll understand why no one would accept that as a potential substitute for high-quality downloading. - kidcodea, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2its called american education
- inactive, on 11/25/2007, -2/+4Nice logic. I like the part how you supported your idiotic theory with a well written hypothesis and supported it with facts.
- knightboat, on 11/25/2007, -2/+4He's being dugg down because no one wants the site publicized. It's really pointless and self-defeating to go ahead and make a private torrent site even more well-known than it already is. Also, his comment is pointless.
- thomashauk, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2Great I turn off my computer once and I'm screwed...
- strOphe, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2You know, as a former OiNKer, it would be really neat if these places would send me an invite. Why don't they start sending email invites to former users of the previous site? I'm sure they could get our emails if they asked the right people.
- nekama, on 11/25/2007, -1/+3Interesting that they want to digg you down for such a comment - it's a return to the not-so-open days of the BBS era. So much for "openness".
- DCJoeDogaswell, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2I've never had to keep any kind of ratio before, and the only place I do I donate to to get infinite upload credit. Underground Gamer
So you can see my problem - Ovitz, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2I'm happy to seed.
- protium, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2CRIA
- dontaskagain, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2If we were all puppets like you, dancing to the record industries tune we could all forget the innovation which has come through the development of mp3 players and the knock on effect which has come to support this booming technology.
What you may see as stealing others see as a consumer driven change in the market and this demand not being solved by the industry, but suppressed. The service offered by Oink was un-surpassed weather or not it was stealing. It was so popular because its focus was on providing the consumer with exactly what they wanted! If Itunes offered this service at a reasonable price as soon as they stared selling ipods then oink would not of been any where near as successful IMO. But it took them years to get a decent service together and other services are no where near consumer friendly. Record labels are still bickering over DRM and worrying about the death of the CD to realise this industry is passing them by. So you keep putting up with your DRM filled music, region locked DVDs with all its anti piracy adverts and be a good little consumer. - .Steven, on 11/25/2007, -2/+4The Pirate Bay haven't done anything... remember Sealand? Then they said there were looking for a new place.. never happened. Then the oink replacement.. gets cancelled. I knew this would happen, no surprise.
- inactive, on 11/25/2007, -2/+3Sorry, you must be new to digg. Don't worry though, we all made the same mistake at one point.
- thomashauk, on 11/25/2007, -0/+1Sealand WOULD NOT SELL
HARD TO BUY SOMETHING NOT FOR SALE
Now look, by repeating that old line you made me type in all caps... - thomashauk, on 11/25/2007, -0/+1And the band wil spontaneously combust!
- sporb, on 11/25/2007, -0/+1... sure they do...
- nastajus, on 11/25/2007, -3/+4That is the perfect first comment. I think I'll start researching the maximum storage Terabyte harddrives I can find too.
- kaworu1986, on 11/25/2007, -1/+2Not everyone can get internet connections with decent upload speeds.
- nekama, on 11/25/2007, -1/+2Explain the "persistence" bit. For the places that are out there with invite systems, there seems to be a high percentage of the same personality that gets a bit of a god complex just for having an invite system.
- itsameericle, on 11/25/2007, -2/+3Property doesn't have to be physical. Value in your bank account is technically a number (besides required reserves). That is your property. It is not physical. If I subtracted that number from your bank account and put it in to my bank account, it suffices to say that you might call that stealing.
Don't delude yourself silly. I understand the philosophy but creators need sufficient compensation as economic incentive to continue creating. In short: I realize people are complicit in piracy of content and I saw wholeheartedly, ***** the RIAA. - knightboat, on 11/27/2007, -0/+1Did you miss the part where I mentioned it's pointless to talk about it?
- videoseekr, on 11/25/2007, -3/+3Yep, OiNK will be missed indeed.
What.cd and Waffles.fm will likely eventually face a similar fate, unless something can be done. Something like this might help if enough admins were interested:
http://code.google.com/p/hydraproject/ - clperez390, on 11/25/2007, -1/+1What?
- DCJoeDogaswell, on 11/25/2007, -1/+1http://thepiratebay.org/music
enjoy, friend me up LOL - thoughtfulclown, on 11/25/2007, -1/+1any chance you could hook me up with an invite? i was a member of OiNK. I had a 0.95 seed ratio. nokry56 AT gmail DOT com
- Idontknowshit, on 11/25/2007, -1/+1I never found anything on OiNK that I couldn't get elsewhere. With excellent bit-rates and all. I was a major uploader for music on Demonoid and this guy asked me if I "belonged to the greatest music tracker?" He sent me an invite and I went and checked them out. The 1st thing I noticed was that all the torrents had mad seeders with hardly any leechers meaning if I were to d/l anything I would never get it seeded back. I would have to just upload. Which I have no problem with being that I have a TB of music but I didn't see the hoop-la then and now that they're gone I'm not shedding any tears.
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