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- motbob, on 10/12/2007, -13/+317BREAKING NEWS
digg.com, Washington, DC --- Sources report that the Motion Picture Association of America headquarters in Washington, DC have been destroyed in the first pirate attack on the mainland United States in more than two centuries.
Chief of Police Paul Brockman told digg reporters that the building was "completely leveled" by what appeared to be cannon fire.
"I don't understand it," gasped a flabbergasted Dan Glickman, who is currently the President and CEO of the MPAA. "I had just had lunch at the Oceanairre when I heard what sounded like an explosion out at sea. I looked up and saw a ship that looked like it was two hundred years old. How could a few cannonballs demolish a 15 story building? I just don't get it."
The head of the Coast Guard, Gen. Jonathan Lawrence, had this to say about the attack. "No ship, new or old, should be able to get past our early warning defense systems. We are in the process of tracking this ship; however, a combination of aerial reconnasaince, standard radar systems, and highly advanced satellite imaging has not been able to locate it at this time."
Authorities in Sweden have released reports that the perpetrators of the attack were administrators of the website www.thepiratebay.org and have expressed their sorrow to the MPAA that their headquarters have been demolished.
"There is a bright side to this, however," said Stellan Lind, head of the Antipiratbyrån, the Anti-Piracy bureau in Sweden. "When we attempted to apprehend those running the Pirate Bay, we were unsure that we would be able to arrest them, as no clear crime had been commited. However, I think we can all agree that destroying a 15 story building is a pretty big crime."
The pirates issued press release that contained only one word: "ARRRRRRR" - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+197I just sent a card to the MPAA. I can't wait to see their reaction when they see this in their mail.
http://images.cafepress.com/product/59960454v4_240x240_F.jpg
New York (Anti-Piracy Office)
One Executive Blvd. Suite 455
Yonkers, NY 10701
(914) 378-0800 (main)
(914) 378-0048 (fax) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -23/+110Everybody put your middle fingers up! :)
- dstart, on 10/12/2007, -10/+88Looks like the MPAA can shove their press release up their a**.
- threemagic, on 10/12/2007, -8/+82Pirate Bay II: Dead Man's Chest
coming this summer!! - Paul, on 10/12/2007, -5/+63The Best Part is that Government may have to
PAY THEM for wrongly taking down the site! - ekeup, on 10/12/2007, -1/+56What I can't understand is why torrent sites can't get the message across that they are basically like Google.
Google - has a searchable index with cached pages (how much copyrighted material can you find in cached pages?)
TPB - has a searchable index with hash files (I challenge you to find any copyrighted material in a torrent file) - konrad8ha, on 10/12/2007, -8/+54"The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers. " (Princess Leia)
- pjh3000, on 10/12/2007, -10/+55That was Gloria Gaynor singing "I Will Survive".
- gaijintendo, on 10/12/2007, -16/+54"Well" what? Is she ok?
- martsmithuk, on 10/12/2007, -8/+45There's an article on the BBC news website today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5036268.stm - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+36@hometoast
http://www.cafepress.com/boombam.59960454 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33From the above linked BBC article:
"The Pirate Bay has damaged the legitimate music industry on an international scale."
Bullsh*t! The music industry has damaged the music industry. Stop releasing crap filled 25 song pop-albums and start focusing on quality music again. Music sales will again regain momentum. - mck9235, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32They also should pay TPB's provider for taking down so many other, legal sites. I don't think they should even have to sue to get that, but whatever.
- klang, on 10/12/2007, -7/+32The backfire being, that people become aware of OTHER torrent sites ..
The more MPAA shout about piracy, the more people will hear about piracy. - en3r0, on 10/12/2007, -11/+36Argg, now it's time we sink the MPAA.
- Familyguykiller, on 10/12/2007, -10/+35Yes a big kick in the ass to the MPAA and RIAA.
- bbene, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27Pics of the empty data center. http://82.99.25.142/prq/
- badwisdom, on 10/12/2007, -15/+37I personnally prefer and use other torrent sites (RIP torrentit *snif*) but i would be joining their political party in a heartbeat if i were swedish: their resiliance, fighting spirit and nerve is something for all of us (who support a new way to share culture and pay *reasonably* for it) to admire
- treelovinhippie, on 10/12/2007, -8/+30Woot! Long live the pirate!
- walugi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25"The TPB can receive compensation from the Swedish state in case that the upcoming legal processes show that TPB is indeed legal."
haha ultimate shaming of MPAA if that happens! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+30ROFL
I can't keep myself from laughing!
YAAARRRRRRR - konrad8ha, on 10/12/2007, -7/+26This is going to backfire on the MPAA like a cannon with a rat stuck in it ... arrrrgh.
- hometoast, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24homahlove: how bout a link to the CP store so we can send that card too?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17@homahlove
Heck yeah, thanks for the phone number! I THINK mailbox 116 is John G. Malcolm, Executive Vice President and Director of Worldwide Anti-Piracy Operations for the MPAA. Call him up and leave him a fun message. In your best pirate accent of course. ;)
BTW,
Office of the Chairman and CEO
Washington, DC
1600 Eye St., NW
Washington, DC 20006
(202) 293-1966 (main)
(202) 296-7410 (fax)
There's a real person that answers that phone. I'm sure she's heard it all day. :p - stuckish, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21You really must admire theese people. They are unstoppable. I actually have a co-located server at Port80. Glad they didn't took that one.
- raid517, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15All I want to know is when as these old dinosaurs finally just going to die? It seems to me that there is a fundamental disconnect between what the recording industry want from us and from what we the consumers want from them. This is where the real battle ground is.
They want to make us buy DVDs, Cd's and physical media (I mean really if it came down to it, we could live without 'Blue Ray, HD and all the rest of it too, as relative bandwidth speeds increase). We on the other hand don't particularly want any of that. What we want is on demand, cheap same day as DVD release (assuming DVDs did still play a role), high speed high quality downloadable content, that carries as few restrictions as possible and which allows us to watch this content on variety of media (PMP, Cell Phone, TV and so on). This is what we the consumers, the people with the cash want more than anything.
What I cannot understand for the life of me, is when did it it all get to be the other way round? When did the big media companies start telling us what they were going to give us, rather than doing their level best to give us what we want?
It is almost like they are saying, 'You will buy or DVDs, you will buy our CD's and DVD players and all of the other largely redundant junk that comes with it - because if you don't we will do our level best to throw you in jail.'
Little wonder then that the public instinct is simply to say 'Screw you! That is not what we want. Give us what we want and we may buy it. And if you don't give us what we want, then don't be surprised if we don't play by the rules you try to impose on us!"
It is we the public, the consumer who should have the power to choose to buy what we want to buy. Not them dictating to us what they will sell us.
GJ - Panna, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19"Yes, they are a vehicle for illegally trading protected stuff."
You mean like...a boat? Sweet! - didymus, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19@threemagic
It's Swedish government, not Swiss
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/sw.html
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/sz.html - klang, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18The site-taken-down effect will still hold .. 10 new torrent sites will sprout.
Fighting torrent sites is like fighting a hydra, only worse. - riffermike, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16On behalf of all Americans, I apologize for us confusing Switzerland and Sweden, just because their names both start with "sw".
By the way, I've never been able to get this straight, is the capital of Sweden Mbabane or Lohamba? - Murphious, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17Dude.... Do you know what you're talking about?
- mbthompson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10You are correct sir!
- VenDrake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7From TFA: "The TPB can receive compensation from the Swedish state in case that the upcoming legal processes show that TPB is indeed legal."
Sweet! The Sweeds are going to fund the pirates! - medieval, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15@digithed: what is it with Americans? we don't give a rats ass about sweden and/or switzerland. just keep making us chocolate and bikini models and keep your mouths shut, switzerland and sweden.
- justice7, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11truthfully there is no elephant in the room
They have not broken ANY copyright laws in their country and they are very aware of this.
Not only that -- because it is gray area and laws in this case have yet to be written, those from TPB are attempting to change copyright laws themselves -- to allow piracy.
Yes, that would mean making piracy legal. They even have a political party in Sweden.
Worst case scenario, isp's from other countries start blocking TPB .. thats basically the only way to stop them -- and even then.... not really. Mirrors would crop up everywhere. - BlackHatFerret, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8"The PRQ datacenter has been raided by the Swedish police. All servers and network equipment was seized in an act of blatant abuse of power by public prosecutor Håkan Roswall.
We are currently working to get as much as possible back up. Webhosting is up. Most tunnels will be back up again shortly.
For co-location customers we are working to get temporary servers installed and live. Contact us if you need one.
The best way to reach us currently is either phone 46 (0)73 9691011 or email info @ prq.se
Our team of lawyers are working the legal parts, and we are going to sue the Swedish state to get the equipment returned and get compensation for the multi-million dollar losses sustained by us and our customers.
http://prg.se"
Multi-Million Dollar Losses? Sue? MPAA RIAA=PWNT They CAN STICK THEIR PRESS RELEASE where the sun don't shine! - Anpheus, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13The new sites only get less aesthetically pleasing as they grow more heads? I don't know about you, but The Pirate Bay was one of the better looking, if not more functional torrent sites. Not to mention it wasn't quite as ad-spammy as the alternatives.
- yakiyaki, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14From yesterday's news regarding the raid:
"...the servers where located in a protected area, to which the police had no legal right to enter..."
And in today's news:
"The warrant was valid for all datacentres of Rix|Port80 and was directed at The Pirate Bay."
Looks like they had legal rights, huh? Sweden is a very (I'd say almost extremely) bureaucratic country, stuff like this are almost always very tightly backed up legally. I'm sure there are examples to the contrary, but generally speaking.
And while I do think that the PirateBay crew will get some sorta site up and running pretty soon I find it hard to believe that they will get the site back up entirely within a few days. As I said, the legal battles will take a while and ThePirateBay is living in a grey zone -no mather what you think is legal or not these things have not been tested in court yet. So I wouldn't bet any large sums of money that this ship will continue to sail forever more. - adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I say we all go march on the MPAA HQ wearing
http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=205 - raid517, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5There is still a demand that you people aren't meeting and that you aren't seeing. To my eyes you have two choices anyway. You either get with the program and realize that 'the times they are 'a changin' (or more accurately that they already have changed). Or you get swept away. And if you can't live with the reality that things have changed, then just maybe you deserve to get swept away anyway.
This isn't all just about 'stealing' as you put it. People on the whole are fundamentally good - but they are also not stupid. They see technology and they see it's potential - and they can also see the opportunities that this offers for them. (Even if you cannot).
In any case that particular argument is old. It has already been demonstrated by companies such as Apple and others that when you do provide content in a format that the public wants, they will be quite happy to buy it - and the profits this generates needn't be painful at all.
Look at the end of the day, if movie studios sink, if record companies sink if the whole damn recording industry falls on its ass, then maybe this is what needs to happen before people like you finally get it?
It may not seem fair, it might not always seem moral - but there is also a perception that the recording industry itself is hardly a bastion of morality and fairness right now either. It's a dirty fight and that's for sure. But the point is that I personally don't think that it's a fight that needs to happen.
DRM in itself is not the issue. Fair and reasonable DRM is. When you guys start playing by the rules (if you ever figure out what they are) then I'm pretty sure that the majority of other people will be happy to start playing by the rules too. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Actually, the top sites prefer that you do not release on torrent networks and P2P's, What you get on piratebay and others is actually a trickle and a leak down from the TOP sites.
- jrlcopy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8In the event the pirate bay returns, or when :)... Think of all the free publicity that they just recieved from newspapers around the globe. Everyone knows about the pirate bay and has probably punched it into google. When they return TPB is going to be bigger and better than ever thats to the new leechers :)
- spacebar14, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Wow that'd be a nightmare plugging all that back in :-/
- wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7"Try and take our servers, and we will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine...."
- Ghostgum, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Quote: M2Ys4U "Australia is not a continent, it's a country. The continent is either Australasia or Oceania..." //Quote
BZZZT!! Wrong!
The only part you got right there is that Australia is a country. Australia is the smallest continent on the planet. It's also the world's biggest island.
Also, Australasia and Oceania are geographic and economic regions. They are not not continents, unless it is possible for a continent to contain a large chunk of the Pacific Ocean.
Check out an Atlas. Hell, even Wikipedia has reasonably accurate info about the place. - dobey123, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I thought you can only get sued for uploading/making available CR content.
- 1charmedlife, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I make my living in the media business, specifically in Film & Television production - and the problem with all of this that I see, isn't even a question of piracy.
When content owners criminalize large portions of their audience, and in some case I would go as far as calling it "colluding" to keep content off of certain platforms, audiences will find a way to distribute content in a way that is simple, cost effective, and efficient.
I believe that torrents are in large part a response to the anti-consumer tactics of certain companies in my business, and that those actions harm consumers far more than the dumbass MPAA and RIAA can wrap their minds around.
I think that if our content were priced properly in digital formats and made available in a wide variety of digital formats (preferably NOT DRM'd - but with some kind of purchase mechanism built in - or an option to get a free, ad-supported movie, or pay a *small* price to get one without ads - because we still need to have the capital to keep making stuff y'all want to see, and it's expensive to make stuff), and we didn't treat our audiences as badly as we are via the MPAA and RIAA *****, and the DRM *****... well, in the (rather funny) words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?" (tear). hehe... - josefresco, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10from the footer
"Our slogan is "probably best on IP"."
heh - FuManchu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Some thoughts to ponder from the ages:
Written laws are like spiders' webs, and will like them only entangle and hold the poor and weak, while the rich and powerful will easily break through them.
--Anacharis [to Solon] 6th century BCE
Law is merely the expression of the will of the strongest for the time being, and therefore laws have no fixity, but shift from generation to generation.
--Brooks Adams (1848 - 1927) grandson of US President John Q. Adams
Nearly all legislation involves a weighing of public needs as against private desires; and likewise a weighing of relative social values.
--Louis Brandeis: dissent, Truax v. Corrigan, 257 US 312 [1921]
The law has no claim to human respect. It has no civilising mission; its only purpose is to protect exploitation.
-Peter Kropotkin 1884
Arrgghhh!
--Fu Manchu 2006 -
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