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- justgary, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18I have maybe 100 feeds I read with my rss reader (newsfire). 95 percent of them contain the entire article. When I sit down at my laptop and refresh my feeds (it actually does it automatically) I only see ones that have been updated. If it's 30 that have been updated, I already have saved myself from checking out 70 sites that you're going to waste time on. The 30 that I do view in newsfire are stripped of ads and contain just the info, which is all I'm interested in.
I can understand someone not enjoying reading sites through an rss reader. It is a different experience. But if you believe opening 100 sites in safari each morning is quicker or 'more efficient', you simply mistaken. - SG-1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I used Bloglines and Rojo before, but I think Newshutch: http://www.newshutch.com/ is the best online news reader so far.
- Xiol, on 10/12/2007, -9/+16I'm still not convinced about RSS. I don't see the need for it in my life. Most RSS feeds consist of nothing more than the title of the article, meaning you still have to go to the site to read the article itself.
While that does enable you to get a better signal-to-noise ratio, I still find it faster just to open up a load of tabs and go thru the sites I visit each day.
I have tried to like RSS, but apart from using it on my mobile phone for quick updates on whats happening when I'm on the move, I don't see the point in using it when I've got a full web browser to hand.
IMO. - gimianame, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10google personalized homepage...havent looked back since
- dracula7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7i use google reader, with the personalized page box for it - so all of my feeds show up in one organized gadget/widget.
its good - lordthor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10bevanl is diggspamming, almost every story he's dugg has been dugg by several other of his bots, and they're all hitting the front page.
Please help me report this user for diggspamming, and forcing eaux front page stories. - Schug, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Am I seeing double, or did this guy reuse the same points over and over again?
- gharding, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I don't think RSS is the future. The big thing, in my opinion, will be a feed with a server-push, rather than having to refresh every single RSS feed on an interval to see if there are any new items. What a waste of bandwidth.
- Slashriffs, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11"I still find it faster just to open up a load of tabs and go thru the sites I visit each day. "
Thats exactly what I do.
I have a favorites folder that I just right click on, (in firefox) open in tabs, then i start my morning reading. :) - n3tfury, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4i might be a netvibes whore, but that printable feature in Newshutch just might have sold me.
- jmke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5all I need
http://www.google.com/reader - hagrin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@gharding -
Not sure why you got dugg down, but you're entirely right. Unless you set restrictions on your feed, people can manually refresh your feed to the site's "404" death. In addition, most readers will try to refresh every 5 minutes or so. Now, for sites like Digg and Reddit with a high volume of new stories, that's ok, but sites like my own personal site are responding to thousands of pointless requests a day.
What's needed is the simplicity of RSS to read new stories with the bandwith efficiency of a mailing list (server or webmaster controlled to reach a site's user base only when necessary). - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I agree, i recently discovered newshutch and love it's simplicity. I've switched to it from newsgator and am very happy.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yeah, me too, the widgets are a great addition too.
- DaMoB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4NewsAlloy is the best Web based RSS reader to date. http://www.newsalloy.com
- mingistech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3NewsFire for the Mac is my fav.
I'm always looking for something on the PC side that compairs.
http://www.newsfirerss.com/ - abqjudy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I was of the same opinion, because I daily read about 5 comprehensive news sources on line. However, I soon discovered that I liked RSS feeds for things I didn't want to read every day. Saves much time on appreciated and enjoyed, but not daily reads. Same with many podcasts, so I can hear some things read while I am working on something else.
- tastethevenom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Better list of RSS web-based readers: http://www.addtoany.com/lists/feedreaders/
- ejp1082, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Personally, I don't think there's "one perfect RSS reader", it depends on the kind of reading you're doing and the kind of content you want.
For example, I find Netvibes to be perfect for collecting headlines; It always displays the latest news from the BBC, Google News, Techmeme, Memeorandum, a couple of Technorati watchlists, and a few other miscellaneous news sites I like. The advantage is that it lets me scan the headlines of 10+ sites at once and check for interesting news.
For reading blogs, I prefer Google Reader. Most of these don't update more than 2-3 times a day; the advantage is I get it as soon as it updates without checking the site only to see it hasn't updated. Because I use it only for low-update-frequency blogs, I can subscribe to 20+ and not get flooded (and all of them fully syndicate their content, so I can read them all without leaving the application.
Finally there's the in-between sites, the "A-list" blogs that straddle the line between being blogs and news sites; Digg, Slashdot, Engadget, Scoble, etc. For those I use Bloglines and the "river of news" approach. I quickly scan down the page, open the ones that interest me, and then mark the rest read. Again, the advantage is that it's one place I can go to check a dozen sites at once.
All in all I find RSS to be a huge time saver and a godsend to a news junky like me. I think the big mistake people who "don't get it" make is looking for a one size fits all approach to all things syndicated. - DIGGerPhelpsND, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I use Vienna, and I am satisfied. Well, I was until I had to remove the Digg front page.
- raynevandunem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yes, RSS is a world changer. Yes, *web-based* RSS is the future.
And I haven't used any other except for Google Reader, since it plays audio with Flash enclosures (no downloading mp3s required) and also plays video from Youtube with total ease.
If I were to migrate to another, more efficient reader, I would have to bring over 300+ feeds along with me (no, I don't read them all)! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Flicking through 100 headlines on one page is gotta be easier than firing up tabs. Dude, don't give up on it yet!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I find it ironic that he misspelled "Smartness"
- cecil_t, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Agreed, Sage rocks, but it disappointingly hasn't been updated in a long time. All web based readers suck as near as I can tell. I also don't like reading RSS with email clients or in stand alone applications. I just prefer RSS readers be integrated into the browser sidebar.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ejp1082
I use the same combination: Netvibes & Google Reader
I would prefer a Google-Reader-like application integrated in Netvibes - THAT would be really cool. But probably, some day somebody comes up with something like that.
With Google Reader, which you identify correctly as better suiting for blogs, this is the "River of News"-approach, which Dave Winer is a huge fan of :) - roguescout, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I really liked Netvibes, but I noticed that after awhile my Firefox memory usage would shoot up to around 500-700 Megs.
When I am not running Netvibes, it stays around 130 Megs most of the time (even when leaving it open for days).
I have about 50 feeds set up in Netvibes (News, Motorsport, Tech/Web, and Audio) over four pages. But I cannot figure out why it bloats my browser so much. I thought it may be cache related. But after cleaning things up, the processor usage is still way too high.
Thanks to everyone else for the other recommendations! Perhaps one of the other apps will work with less RAM-hogging. Or is this just a by-product of automatic and repeated requests to a myriad of sites over a lengthy amount of time? - marshallk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I really believe that for people serious about getting the most out of the web, a destop reader (mac nnw) is the best option, though I don't know yet what the best mobile solution is.
rss is a world changer though, i firmly believe that - Recluse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I looked forever for decent RSS/Atom reader when I first discovered what RSS was. I found Sage and haven't used or cared about anything else.
- hombrelobo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4The article is good, but I really missed a recommendation at the end. I use bloglines and http://reblog.org, but I would like to try better ones .... :)
- RickySan65, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I figured the best one in that article was ajax and immediate.. yeah really..
- christiancadeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I personally prefer Onfolio although i sucks that it is only for IE. The key to Onfolio is the online/offline ablity to read your feeds as well as the ablility to one-click save a feed article to your harddrive to reference later.
For me the prefect RSS reader will have the AI to eliminate dupe feed articles. That is key especially if you follow a bunch of feed like i do. - adachan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I like the sage extension for firefox coupled with the all in one sidebar. Very nice.
- 15charmaxwtf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This looks like a blog to me.
- warofwrath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1there already is something like this: http://feedtree.net/
- samste, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7Safari's built in web RSS reader is ace.
- doodlebumm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Rull instead of rule. Ofcourse instead of "Of course." Plenty more where those came from. Can't people read through their articles for obvious errors, even if they leave the obscure ones in?
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"For me the prefect RSS reader will have the AI to eliminate dupe feed articles."
Digg should get one of those too. - justedel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2AGREED!!! Netvibes is really all you need.
- edzieba, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Same here. RSS is all fine and good, but I find it so much easier just to stick all the sites I check on a daily basis into a folder and middle-click on it. Unless the entire article is in the feed, then I'll just have to click on a link to the full section anyway, so I just cut out the middleman. I'm sure there's a firefox extension that can monitor pages to notify you of when they've changed so you can check them yourself.
- mos6507, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think Opera makes RSS the easiest to use because it has the same kind of UI as the built-in email. I don't find web RSS very convenient.
- donolsen1155, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you only follow a few web sites regularly, you probably don't find a need for a feed aggregator.
If you follow 50 or more, that's another story... :) Get plugged in, read more feeds! - GoodBrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why should an end-user care about a bandwidth efficient protocol that doesn't exist yet?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Apply MonkeyChow directly to the desired feeds to get the maximum flavor.
Latest SVN is best.
http://www.monkeychow.org - championeer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree. Zhuaxia is the best Chinese Rss Reader, but Newsalloy is my favorite.
- GoodBrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You should try something that lets you skim multiple articles at a time, rather than having to click for each post.
- GoodBrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1First off, I only subscribe to feeds that are either full-text, or include a substantial excerpt from the post/article.
Second, I use a reader that displays multiple entries from a feed (or even multiple feeds) in a single page. This is something that readers based on some variant of the e-mail interface don't really give you.
This lets me skim through things extremely quickly. I can go through hundreds of new items from dozens of sites in 5-10 minutes or so, gleaning information along the way, and setting aside a dozen or so items I might want to read in more depth later. I really don't see how tabbed browsing can work the same way.
That's just the basics. There is a lot of potential with RSS that hasn't been tapped yet. - GoodBrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I liked Onfolio a lot, I actually bought the commercial version back before Microsoft bought it and removed Firefox support. It kind of turns me off how long it takes to generate a new page when you move between feeds though.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They should compare web-based to desktop readers next time.
- Phantom76, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1To me, newsgator worked out well because of its synchronizing capabilities.. it keeps track of what posts I have read/unread across all my installations - at Office (using Web based reader), at Home (Netnewswire Lite) and Naewgator Mobile on my Pocket PC phone. Cool.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I use Netvibes because I like the interface, but it's buggy and drowns my Firefox to death with memory leaks.
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