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- MySpaceSux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13$day = 86400; $halfyear = $day * 165;
DELETE FROM myspaceusers WHERE lastlogin < time() - $halfyear;
Why don't they simply run the c# version of this command on their DB? I dare them to. All their users will be gone. And they know it. Limit 5 users per IP address, all the botnets on the site will fall. They don't dare do anything like this, because they use the fake numbers to promote the website to the media, and the media doesn't know squat about technology. - Thud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Most of the "fancy" profiles I've seen are created by people who apparently have an utter contempt for good HTML.
- wtfunkymonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I created a myspace profile about a year ago, I used it for about 5 minutes, then never went back. I'm sure a large portion of myspace accounts are just like that.
- abeg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Do Digg users like anything besides Apple? Every time some product or website is mentioned on here most of the comments are xxxx sucks or I hate xxxx .... :-| (insert MySpace, BestBuy, Dell, WallMart, Riaa, Microsoft, or any other company but Apple for xxxx)
- sdigroup, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4myspace = toilet
- ModernTenshi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I prefer Blogger overall. I feel the designs you can use there are much better, especially as far as images and color schemes go. It's also a lot easier to update and maintain, and I have full control over the HTML code for my page template, which is kick ass. I changed some of the colors around for my template, and got rid of some erroneous images that I felt just werent' needed.
I can't stand viewing someone's MySpace page that has red text on a green background, or an outlandish repeating background image that conflicts with the entire page. I made a page, but then all the friend invites I got were pron bots, so I said ***** it. I feel the same way towards Xanga and Facebook too. - tuna1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You are debating about keeping in touch with your friends?
- Eldoo77, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Spreading hate & discontent about MySpace? DIGG++
- TheWriteGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I hear a lot of geek snobbery towards MySpace. But at the same time, IRL I hear "normal" people despising it. The dislike seems to stem most from people older than their late 20s, male and female.
A few thoughts:
* -- MySpace, like Google, proves that one doesn't need to be "first-mover" with an original idea for the Web. If you can do something that's already out there but better, you still have a shot.
* -- MySpace has a strong following among the kids today. In fact, there are many bands who are finding success or whose current success in the mainstream can be attributed to MySpace: My Chemical Romance and Fallout Boy are two examples. MySpace is becoming (already?) much more influential than MTV -- and this can only bea GOOD thing.
* -- MySpace's design is CRAP. I don't think many would disagree -- even the MySpace folks themselves. It was simply thrown together quickly, but then the site's popularity grew, and exploded, overcapacitating its infrastructure and exposing vulnerabilities in its HTML. Hopefully, they'll use the investment money from Newscorp to update/improve their architecture.
* -- MySpace is essentially a TOOL, folks. You can use it well, or abuse it. There's a wide berth of freedom which the folks behind MySpace are still permitting with its users, and that's not bad at all. Isn't that in the original spirit of the Internet?
* -- Look at MySpace as a convenient way to keep in touch with your friends and good acquaintances, without having to deal with pointless phone calls or e-mail lists. You can check out their latest snapshots if you haven't seen them in a long while, especially if they live far away from you. You can be kept informed when one of them is throwing a keg party next month, for example.
* -- People, males mainly, complain about how most dating sites are a scam that take your money and are filled with fake profiles. Actually, if you're smart about how to figure which MySpace profiles are fake, and which of the girls are actually approachable, and how to present yourself well on MySpace, you can more easily meet people through MySpace, using it as a more casual dating service -- and it's FREE. I know several people who have used MySpace this way and successfully met people for dates through it. - FISHMANPET, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As Demetri Martin said on the Daily Show:
"On the downside, it's loaded with sexual predators. On the plus side, it's loaded with sexual prey." - Settra, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4i dislike myspce. wait...no, i hate it.
- hanshasuro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2A flame about MySpace from a user account called MySpaceSux? ::snore::
- rudolphdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't know how easy it is to hate on myspace. It is just like a nightclub, it serves one purpose. When you are looking for that purpose it is an oasis. When you aren't it is a ghetto, dirty, lame place to be.
- armentdj, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3why all the hating on myspace? yeah...there are retards in the world that make ugly profiles and act like 15 year olds on the internet (wait...they are 15 year olds), but that's life. myspace isn't so bad when used among normal adults. i have a myspace account, and i just caught up with a buddy from high school who moved away and i haven't seen in 10 years. how else does that happen? i keep up with a number of close friends who live far away, but aren't tech savy or inspired enough to build their own web logs. its convenient.
i think myspace is a suprisingly accurate cross-section of the internet as a whole. there are a handful of sites that are useful to me (like my friends' profiles) and the rest is useless garbage. i just don't concern myself with the garbage...i stick with my friends' profiles on myspace.
regarding promoting your bands there...great idea. take a look at november 2005 wired magazine - "the hit factory".
face it, if you have half a dose of common sense and friends who are into it, myspace isn't so bad. - tuna1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4How is MySpace a scam? UGM2009 raises a good point, why does everyone here claim to hate myspace. If I didn't have myspace, I wouldn't still be friends with some of the people I was friends with in high school.
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2OK, to summarize:
1) Underage porn,
2) Frequented by perverts,
3) Skanky sluts.
Why do people hate MySpace again? It sounds like they could be charging money! - jdavid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3MySpace is one of the worst engineered sites out there, but I think the social networking thing is cool. I wish there was a good xml protocol for social networking that could be univeral for blogs, myspace, friendster, orkut, etc..
- astx813, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm thinking a little more "D'uh" and a little less "Arby's"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Welcome to the internet people. Christ.
- xamox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The funny thing is that every person who probably posted above has a myspace account.
no go here:
http://www.myspaceisgay.com/
you will laugh your ass off if you like myspace or not. - CaughtThinking, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Digg for the obviously unbiased report from MySpaceSux
- mike_p, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Um.... yeah so what does this mean? Absolutely nothing... there are still millions of legitimate users of myspace. Walk down the mall and look at all the young workers checking their myspaces' in their kiosks... you'll be amazed
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1sicko. lmao
actually classmates - TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1what some people might not realize that the people at myspace as much as hated as they are in the Digg community are probably smarter than alot of people give them credit for. They have worked out a system where as much as 90% of the people here bash them and if truthfully answered Im guessing 70% of the people here also have a myspace profile...and have at least checked them once this past week. Alot of the bots on Myspace are actually driving tools to get you to come back to see who requested to be your friend and once youve signed back in to your Myspace you realize "well since im here". Their marketing stratagy is out of this world, I agree that over half of their users are fake just to fatten their image and give a sesne of everyone is using it but you, and with the long arm of Fox up its ass puppeting the whole show, its kind of hard to ignore this greatly despised website. Its like any guilty pleasure, people dont want to admit they use it but a vast number of people are also in denial...Normaly id be one to bash the site and say how lame it is and how I just have a profile to keep in contact or read friends myspace sites but the fact of the matter is, no matter how much i try to lie to myself into thinking im not one of those people, sadly in the end....Im one of those people
- I8PP, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I think I understand now. If some company offers the world free webspace it's automatically bad. Got it.
- tastypastry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1As much as I hate MySpace, I'm thinking of making a profile just because I moved from Chicago to Houston and it would be a nice way to keep in contact with my friends. But I am still debating.
- mackdamon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I wonder if the complainers here use the same myspace I use. I get maybe one bogus account a week, if that. It's a great place to find unsigned bands, indie and major label music. I own a recording studio (a real one, not the kind that comes in a box or fits in your room), and I get tons of traffic and referrals through myspace. I've met some cool people, and met some weirdos. I don't add every person that requests, so my number of contacts is under 300, and 85-90% of those check their myspaces daily.
I wonder if MySpace has become to cool for the uber-geek 1337 crowd. Just like MP3s were shunned for Ogg-Vorbis, mainstream seems to be the enemy of the tech elite.
AS far as the rapes and other issues: Any site with even 25 million users that encourages posting data that can be used to individually identify you (High School, Age, Location, and social schedule) is going to have those problems. Just check out stories about OneModelPlace.com if you don't believe me.
http://www/myspace.com/mackdamon - MySpaceSux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There are often times members of the KKK, and nazis on myspace, and other hate groups and they do absolutely nothing to moderate it. The advertisers don't know about it, but their ads are running right next to a picture of a swastica threatening to kill all blacks and jews. Couple that with the fact that most of the accounts on myspace aren't even real people at all, much less people that signed up a year ago and never came back. There is a wealth of desktop software available on the black market that will keep thousands of fake users "browsing pages" and online. They do nothing to discourage this because they use the trickery to boost their earnings with unattentive advertisers.
- bpapa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I work for a company that's main product is one that is similar in some ways to MySpace.
I think I have to respect Tom and the other guys in charge. They had a decent idea and turned it into something that earned them millions and millions of dollars. And the thing is that even though there were sites before them like Friendster, MySpace was the first social networking platform that actually WORKED most of the time you visited it. From a cash money perspective it's impossible to hate.
It didn't work WELL though, and also people can provide their broken ass HTML on a page. It's a mess. So from a web dev prospective it frikkin sucks.
From a getting laid perspective? Holy crap. Personally I've never used MySpace for this, but I have heard countless hook-up stories from many people. So if you actually like to get up from your computer chair once in awhile, I'd say MySpace is pretty cool.
Oh yeah though the article... MySpace isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Even if there are a lot of fake users on there there are a lot of non-fake users. Dumb article. - apotropaic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Let see... why do I hate myspace... cause everybody knows they use report fake numbers. There is no moderation on what gets post, after all... its their space. Too many 'incidents' have come from myspace because of this, inclulding deaths and rapes. Teenagers go there and post things that if their parents saw, would be grounded for life. I'm not a moderation freak but when you regularly hear stories about people who met through myspace and the guy ended up being a sick pervert... thats a problem to me.
- stosh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Mysapce is ugly and most of the users are morons BUT I was able to reconnect with some friends from college. So I kind of hate it and like it at the same time.
- MLyzz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1wow. this is a revelation. what a terrible article. next by David Utter: "The Sun Is Bright: An Inside Look". geez
- dhughes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1 When people ask me what MySpace is, I always say: pink floating stars, cheesy rap music and friends of Tom.
- erictastic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Eh, it's easy for most people to jump on an "i hate.." bandwagon. Sure there are stupid people on myspace, but there are stupid people everywhere. Sure for some people it's pointless. Does everything you do have to have a point? What's wrong with mindless fun once in a while? The automatic profile songs (which i agree are sometimes annoying)? you can turn those off in preferences. I use myspace to keep in touch with classmates and to help them out with any homework issues they're having. It's much easier to pay, err, nothing, than to worry about a high phone bill. I have a dream, America, that one day, people will get their heads out of each others' asses long enough to form their own opinions of things. Maybe then people will go "God, Haethorne Heights sure are *****." Boom, one less ***** band. "Wow, didn't i see a movie just like this preview a while back?" Boom, one less ***** rehash of what was a convoluted idea to begin with.
In summation, more individual opinions=less ***** stuff. Try it. It's okay to diverge and not to follow. - allthewhile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I actually have a good friend that has a band that they promote with myspace. They've done VERY well from it. Hate all you want, they've gotten lots of loyal fans from the site.
- jdavis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0www.faceparty.com - same thing... better database and design.... if only myspace could take a hint and stop the stupid CSS codes people use.. and the amazing myspace "hacks" people use which are just wav files made invisible in the comments - they couldnt hack their way out of a paper ***** bag....
- LR2_, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I created a myspace profile about a year ago, I used it for about 5 minutes, then never went back. I'm sure a large portion of myspace accounts are just like that."
+1 ...same here. - zimm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This report brought to you by CAPTIAN OBVIOUS!
did this guy just find the internet last week or what? - MySpaceSux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Ever hear of free speech???? Why can't they say what they want? As long as they don't say they are going to hurt someone. "
There are laws in many countries including the United States that ban hate groups, and yet there they are on myspace, unmoderated and promoting white supremacy, in full concert with vonage and the other companies that advertise on the website.
I'm positive that if a television channel such as MTV started featuring the KKK and Neo-Nazi white supremacists, that vonage and friends would not be so eager to advertise.
MySpace gets away with alot of ad sales due to the complete il-transparent methods in which companies are advertising on the internet. They simply don't know what their high cost internet ads are being displayed with, and in what context. It's time they woke up and took a look past their agencies, because they are the ones that suffer when their hard earned trade marks are soiled by this type of exposure. - 5blocksfree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0>> what some people might not realize that the people at myspace as much as hated as they are in the Digg community are probably smarter than alot of people give them credit for.
It's quite a stretch to suggest that behaving like a skanky ho (gender notwithstanding) is somehow "smart". - TKDWILSON, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Even small towns have a lot of users who are legit. I believe they have a lot of users. Maybe half of what they are saying.
Eric Wilson - UGM2099, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0cglass::::::
"Perhaps, ugm2099, because MySpace is a scam and a complete waste of time. Their number ARE horribly inaccurate and nothing good comes from it... but I will admit, I can't stop laughing at the stupidity of your comment. (See it's funny because he took the time to post on Digg at 6 am, then he call everyone else who posted in this thread a digg geek, do you see why it's funny?)"
I'm just wondering why people HATE myspace so much. It's like HATING the way your ***** looks, you don't have to give it any attention if you don't want to.
Myspace isn't a waste of time if you're a band or a suicide girl. I've found new music on it, been amused by drunk photos and wasted plenty of time doing promotion for a musician I'm affiliated with.
I just don't understand how people can hate MySpace so much? If you don't like it how have you spent enough time around it to develop hatred.
It's just jealousy, in some form.
P.S. I don't live on the west coast so it wasn't 6AM when I posted. More like 9AM. - littledarkhorse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well no matter how much of that user base is spoofed, still don't underestimate the value of MySpace:
http://irishwonder.com/blog/2006/04/03/myspace-blogs-the-new-value/ - h0dg3s, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0tuna1 said "How is MySpace a scam? UGM2009 raises a good point, why does everyone
here claim to hate myspace. If I didn't have myspace, I wouldn't still
be friends with some of the people I was friends with in high school."
Maybe you shouldn't be friends with them. They're myspace users, you're a digg user, the two should be seperated.
I still hang out with my friends from high school, ever heard of cellphones/email/snail mail/instant messaging? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You go.
- h0dg3s, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thud said "Most of the "fancy" profiles I've seen are created by people who apparently have an utter contempt for good HTML."
hahaha exactly, they'll have a dark purple background with dark blue font, a really loud and ***** emo song playing in the background and a picture of themselves looking away from the lens - spectracide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Attacking Myspace for the sake of attacking Myspace. Sheesh. Digg has robots/bots/inactive users too. OMG.
Nobody cares. - lesaintfabuleux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0DAmn ! some sour ass people here. Why is it that the only things geeks n nerds seem to do best is Dis everything THEY dont like. I don't use myspace. What is it about YOUR life that is so great anyway?
Im not even using Digg as much as when I first found it. Still find it a good daily read... -
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