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- Eurynom0s, on 04/03/2009, -2/+20I can't help but feel morbid amusement when British people complain about private companies invading their privacy...all the while bending right on over for Big Brother.
- Travelsonic, on 04/03/2009, -0/+14For those who say "Honestly, who cares. If you have nothing to hide then what's the big deal."
First, there is no such thing as Nothing to hide. Period. We keep things secret not out of nefarious intent but because, frankly, it is nobody else's business (for the most part, unless you were to commit a crime in which to reveal what is needed you'd need to go through the proper channels... that I digress into another time) to know about. That's privacy.. a truely American value - not everything is everybody else's business. I wouldn't want to see you naked or hear about you blowing goats or whatnot, nobody forces you to tell.. and it should stay that way. Deal with it or ***** off.
Secondly, I think there is more to it than that - partly the secrecy (allegedly) of the inclusion is what bothers me. Secondly, advertisers being involved into this You know hoe goddamned annoying advertisers can be on TV, on the internet, and on the phone. Don't feed them! - amabaie, on 04/02/2009, -0/+13And one day...Eagle Eye.
- divinediva, on 04/02/2009, -0/+13This is a catastrophic corruption of consent.
- TheBadWolf, on 04/03/2009, -2/+13Source?
- juniorb, on 04/03/2009, -0/+11"no one cares where you are or what your doing."
You must know nothing about marketing. Yes, no one cares about you personally, but as part of a demographic, direct markets care A LOT about you. - FredFredrickson, on 04/03/2009, -0/+9"When you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about."
That's an instabury from me, also.
The trouble with this line of thought is when you're not in control of what someone else finds objectionable. Say group A is in charge, and you like to badmouth group B (the opposing group) all the time. You think they're stupid, they are retards, and you're vocal about it. You don't mind that group A can listen to everything you say about things, because you like group A.
But then group B comes into power, and suddenly you have to be careful about what you say. Your neighbor, also a group A supporter, was taken away by group B yesterday for saying bad things. Now you think you might be next.
You wonder why you weren't more concerned about these things when group A was in power. - JantjePietje, on 04/03/2009, -0/+8I don't know why you are being dugg down
Everyone he is not a conspiracy nut this is just a fact
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029-6140191.html
December 1, 2006
" The FBI appears to have begun using a novel form of electronic surveillance in criminal investigations: remotely activating a mobile phone's microphone and using it to eavesdrop on nearby conversations.
The technique is called a "roving bug," and was approved by top U.S. Department of Justice officials for use against members of a New York organized crime family who were wary of conventional surveillance techniques such as tailing a suspect or wiretapping him. " - explodingonion, on 04/03/2009, -0/+8"Being able to predict what you do next and provide you with useful things at that moment is the holy grail," admits Shaun Gregory, the head of 02 Media.
Provide me with useful things like a stove, a frying pan, and some bacon, and its not hard to predict what I'll do next. - monsterette, on 04/02/2009, -0/+8...indeed...this is happening and has happened for years [to innocent people for the benefit of large organizations]......
- merreborn, on 04/03/2009, -0/+71) Latitude is strictly opt-in. You have complete control over *if* you use the service, *when* you use it, *who* gets to see your location data, and *what* they see -- you're allowed to manually set your location.
2) If you've been using google mobile maps at all over the last couple of years, you've ALREADY been giving google your location data.
Latitude simply allows you to share the location data you're *already* sending google with friends of your choosing. If you don't want to give google that data, you shouldn't have been using google maps in the first place. - diggduggDOOM, on 04/03/2009, -1/+7There are certainly benefits to be had, but I did bury your comment for this line:
"When you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about." - d3dm, on 04/03/2009, -0/+6You've got me beat, Brainiac. I just use the thing for phone calls.
- soso1111, on 04/04/2009, -0/+4This is how you're being watched in the Uk:
4.2m CCTV cameras
300 CCTV appearances a day
Reg plate recognition cameras
Shop RFID tags
Mobile phone triangulation
Store loyalty cards
Credit card transactions
London Oyster cards
Satellites
Electoral roll
NHS patient records
Personal video recorders
Phone-tapping
Hidden cameras/bugs
Worker call monitoring
Worker clocking-in
Mobile phone cameras
Internet cookies
Keystroke programmes
So I think that the least to worry about is google latitude!! - vagabond45, on 04/04/2009, -0/+4All the while, the same thing is creeping up on us in the U.S. but we don't see it because we're too busy laughing at the Brits. Unbelievable.
- PhillyOC, on 04/03/2009, -0/+4Dugg for "instabury".
- stubear, on 04/03/2009, -0/+4But Google's mission statement says "Do no evil" so we must trust them at their word.
- melmyfinger, on 04/03/2009, -0/+4Skynet has begun.
- guardgurl, on 04/03/2009, -0/+3Hahahahahahahaha
- cornfeed, on 04/03/2009, -0/+3You both have me beat, I still don't even own a cell phone.
- inactive, on 04/03/2009, -0/+3...*****!
People gets concerned about this idiotic internet apps when every mobile phone already is a listening device and gps as is.
Law enforcement can act up on whatever mobile phone, if they want to, and get to know where you are and what are you talking about at any given time as long as you carry your mobile phone with you.
I'm not talking about phone conversations, what i'm saying is the goddamn mobile phone acting as a microphone and letting them catch up whatever you talk about just like a microphone would. Law enforcement in Italy gets people sentenced every day based on what they hear them talking about...obviously organized crime and drug dealers are the subject of their interest, but hey, if they can do that with the bad guys it means that can be done with anybody owning a mobile phone.
On top of that, i've heard that these apps are even available to the public, if you have the right connection and and a couple g's to spare.
We live in a world where privacy is a fairy tale. - Travelsonic, on 04/03/2009, -0/+3"Go ahead, bury me."
As you wish. "When you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about." sounds nice, but when it comes down to it, there is no such thing as "nothing" to hide - the concept of privacy wouldn't exist. Quite frankly, I'm, happy that is true, because I might not be doing something notably wrong or illegal, but that is none of your business.
Illogical.. *sigh* - WhiteHatTrick, on 04/03/2009, -2/+5It's true, they can listen to you and track your location all while the phone is off in your pocket. The only thing you can do to stop that is remove the battery, which you can not do on some newer phones. It's so freaking hard to find a source on google but I've read it many times from various sources. You honestly don't believe they would do something like that because they can and it gives them an awful lot more power? They say, in Britain all the government is spied on blackmailed and bribed. That's apparently how they got to where they are so quick.
- LordBalderdash, on 04/03/2009, -0/+2Hello Mr. Yukkamoto and welcome back to the GAP!
- theanticrust1, on 04/03/2009, -2/+4You know he's legit, there are numbers in his post!
- BalancingAct, on 04/03/2009, -2/+4There's no index.dat file on my pc for sure
- JantjePietje, on 04/03/2009, -0/+2link doesn't work
- guardgurl, on 04/03/2009, -0/+2Google had, without any fanfare, released 11 software applications for mobile phones that spell a fundamental change in our lives.
Thank God I'm not a techi genius. The only thing I know how to do on my phone is text. Never used it for anything else - vincentb, on 04/03/2009, -0/+2It's already there. Maps on the iPhone with location. Where do you think map is fetched from? What information do you think the iPhone is sending Google?
- Travelsonic, on 04/03/2009, -0/+2"Honestly, who cares."
Obviously a lot of people want advertisers to MYOB. Why is that such a bad thing? - evergrim, on 04/04/2009, -0/+2This can't be a good thing. Eventually some interest group is going to exploit this technology, probably to fight some digital "war on terror".
Even though you have to give consent for this service the fact is that most people don't read the terms of service when singing up for something. - inactive, on 04/04/2009, -0/+2I use carrier pigeons when my telegraph wire is on the fritz
- johnnick, on 04/03/2009, -0/+2Daniel Solove, a law professor at GWU published an article a couple of years ago explaining why the "I've got nothing to hide" argument is completely flawed. Sadly, it's such an easy meme for people to repeat that it hasn't gone away despite being debunked. For those who want to read the article, you can download it from SSRN here - http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id ...
- seano2101, on 04/03/2009, -0/+2I dont use google for anything, I deliberatly stay away from google services.
- drmitchell, on 04/03/2009, -1/+3If your paranoid that [The Man, Corporations, Big Brothers, blah blah blah] are going to watch you through your social networks and track your surfing habits through Google, I have three simple words for:
Don't. Use. Google.
Oh, wait, I have an even better gem of advice. Fish around up in those menu bars up there. You know, the ones that you never look at. I'm willing to bet you'll soon find a feature called "Privacy Mode."
That's right. It's not just to keep your porn habits a secret from your significant other.
In short, stop freaking out. You still have free will. Turn off the computer. - robbob, on 04/03/2009, -3/+4i C what you did there
- Logicwax, on 04/14/2009, -0/+1um....no. When you turn OFF your cellphone, you are turning off the radio. Please tell me how the FBI is interacting with a radio that doesn't even have power sourced to it? If you think that your radio is somehow still drawing milliamps so it can "listen for that super secret fbi beacon" then you can perform very very easy tests to see that it is not true.
I have heard there are some reports of close-proximity tests, where they can blast tons of EM at your phone to power it on, but that's highly experimental and requires them to be in range of your phone anyway (which isn't really remote then, if they are outside of your house in van then they can do far more things) - vagabond45, on 04/07/2009, -0/+1I KNOW you are being sarcastic.
- monkeyhoward, on 04/03/2009, -1/+2You Brits are a funny bunch. You are raising all sorts of hell about Google invading your privacy yet you do absolutely nothing about the fact that the British government has more CCTV cameras watching it's people than any other government on the face of the earth.
Give it a rest luv. - johnnick, on 04/04/2009, -0/+1Alternate link to the paper - http://www.scribd.com/doc/187371/-Ive-Got-Nothing- ...
- Incisive, on 04/03/2009, -1/+2One of the tougher parts of living in this period of time is that, with all the information being released and spread around, we have a much better sense of the negative things that are coming to us as they come to us, as opposed to us being surprised by it.
- vagabond45, on 04/07/2009, -0/+1Same thing in the U.S. I worked at a hospital where you punched in with your fingerprint. Then right before I left, you logged on your computer with a fingerprint. Ugh...cameras everywhere while you are trying to work. I can't tell you how hard it was to pick your nose! So then you are even paranoid of the restrooms.
- Travelsonic, on 04/04/2009, -0/+1You fail at trolling.
- evergrim, on 04/04/2009, -0/+1Meanwhile, you should probably be focusing on your own FEMA camps and plastic coffins.
- antdude, on 04/04/2009, -0/+1GLaDOS too? :)
- Beautyon, on 04/04/2009, -1/+1The Guardian does not, and has never understood, anything to do with computers and the internets. Buried.
- lemayo, on 04/03/2009, -0/+0You really could have just stopped at "*****".
- specialK16, on 04/04/2009, -1/+1Illogical, really? How so? It doesn't apply to you? Oh so that makes it illogical.
I've got nothing to hide, I have nothing to worry about. Does that sound better to you? -
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