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- TheWiseNoob, on 10/11/2007, -10/+92And how is it going to kill Microsoft?
- adb44, on 10/11/2007, -3/+24The same people who would go to the trouble of using Google Gears and hooking up their favorite net apps are the same ones who would already be inclined to get programs like Open Office or think about switching to Linux. Without aggressive advertising (which Google doesn't really do), most people (who are not technophiles, or diggers) will never even hear of this kind of stuff. And most of all, computer distributors as well as businesses will still use Microsoft products, and they form the backbone of the Microsoft distribution system.
So GG is nice, but it's not going to change the world in a day, or a year. - connerdowney, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18This better be threaded.
- dvdcr, on 10/11/2007, -7/+18HATE this update
BTW. LAME article. - blink21, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11hegemony is such an Ender's Game word...
- IShouldBeWorkin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Perhaps the most realistic statement of the whole article:
"OK, maybe I'm waxing overly enthusiastic. Before any of these scenarios can happen, these offline services have lots of growing up to do... almost all of them are extremely rough drafts."
While i agree in principal that technology like this could theoretically spell trouble for microsoft, realistically the technology simply isnt developed, nor widely supported enough to do so in the near future. Couple this with the fact that whenever you give a massive tech. company time to prepare and adapt, it will. Microsoft is simply too large of a company to be taken down so easily. That being said, i look forward to the development and implimentation of google gears over the next few months - theonlyvlad, on 10/11/2007, -8/+16Did Microsoft hurt your family? Did they drown your puppy when you were a child?
Why then, are you so concerned that someone finally "destroys" Microsoft? Will it make you happy? For that matter, another post said something to the extent "Apple must fall some day" - why, why is it important to argue the mortality of a corporation? - sallos, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9If open office can't do it then this certainly won't. People, especially the business world that uses office, just doesn't want to change. It doesn't matter how much it costs or what it can or can't do, businesses just need it to work and work with partners. They also don't want every confidential document getting sent out to google and through the web. Alright I'll stop stating the obvious now.. :)
- ambushxx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7This new commenting systen is making firefox to hang
This sucks - cronot, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8It is... Finally! :-)
It's a bit slow, though. But I'm sure it will get tweaked, given enough time. - dvdcr, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9welcome to digg?
- andregriffin, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Is there a delete button yet?
Edit: Nope, hence why this comment is still here. - goffy59, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I marked this as lame... because I'm sick of useless digg articles about the down fall of MS. They are pretty retarded. Remember, every company wants your money, and they will do whatever they can do get it. Ms is just as bad as any other company. I love google, but I'm sure google is the same way, they are just much nicer about it. Apple is just like MS too. Their price for their computers are a ***** joke. I can build a PC for 500 bucks and get the same performance.
- OBKenobi, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9[quote]Did Microsoft hurt your family? Did they drown your puppy when you were a child?[/quote]
1. They make me use their ***** software for work. I do not have a choice.
2. They charge too much for their ***** software. Ever see how much Windows Server licenses cost? Not to mention Vista.
3. I've wasted a total of what is probably years of my life fixing problems created by idiotic Microsoft bugs and policies.
4. Microsoft stifles innovation. - snipes, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Yea, I just said "What the ***** is this?" out loud.
- Spatulas, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Whoa, calm down.
This commenting system was totally needed, it will certainly clear up the comments and everything will make more sense...
My only qualm is the speed, opening comment are extremely slow. - nerditup, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5what the hell is this *****, I hate this new commenting system. Most people won't even read this either.
- cliffzdude, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5@ sallos,
Your comments are right on, let me add there is much more to the issue. I personally use gmail and google docs, for personal stuff. I just built a new PC and didn't even install Office. No need to, as when I telecommute I VPN into my work boxen. That said, at work I live on Outlook. Enterprise users really DO use the extended functionality of Outlook, and the rest of Microsoft's Office Suite. When one says the average user doesn't use but a small portion of Office and/or Outlook's functionality, they're right, for home users. But our office users have managed to learn after many-a-job with Office products how to leverage its very deep functionality.
Sallos's comment that confidential documents being sent over the internet to Google's servers (for example) isn't just a comfort issue, in many industries its a legal issue. A health care company can't really depend on gmail or google docs. Why? HIPAA. Its patently illegal to send confidential patient data over the Internet. On top of that, most health care enterprises have started to filter outgoing email, searching for things like social security numbers and possible HIPAA confidential data. Try that with gmail for the enterprise... - NikoKun, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5For this to "kill microsoft" it would have to evolve to the point were all applications would be run using the web/internet, thus rendering complex operating systems useless. Instead all a computer would need, is access to the internet, and proper flash/whatever internet browser software necessary, installed to run those internet applications.
I could see that as one possible future, but the biggest problem is people constantly want real big complex softwares, whether it be for office work, or games. PLUS, we'd need a LOT more bandwidth than we currently have, at least in the States, to be running programs through the internet all the time. So It's not really likely... - cdmonz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4did you miss the line that says:
Google Gears (BETA) is available for Windows, Mac, and Linux
works just fine on my macbook - Andytom, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4You also need an internet connection and electricity
- AeroSquid, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5microsoft is unkillable
- rwallen, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6"Office isn't the only Microsoft hegemony that Google Gears could help destroy."
What are the other ones? I didn't see anything else mentioned. - Andytom, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7The last apple that fell gave us the theory of gravity just think what this one is going to do.
Sorry I have no idea what the ***** i'm on about - MonkeyBoy87, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I've been hearing that apple will be out of business in three years ever year since 1984.....
- Branden, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Even so, Google will have to pull one hell of a rabbit out of their hat for that to happen.
- dvsbastard, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Google Gears System Requirements:
• Windows XP/Vista
• Firefox 1.5+ and Internet Explorer 6.0+
Google Gears (BETA) is available for Windows, Mac, and Linux
From http://gears.google.com/
I can clearly see how this will kill Microsoft...
/confused - OBKenobi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Like AIDS.
- udahlen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I would love to see Microsoft in trouble, but this won't make it happen. It will take years, if ever, to switch to web apps.
Another point: this is re-inventing the wheel. Lotus Notes has done this for decades (being able to go offline/online as you like and still work with apps). - jcardinal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2There should be a correction to this article as follows: web service = desktop application
- tony23, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2@connerdowney
How did you do that? - Slikkster, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2re: OBKenobi's comments relating to why he hates MS, quoting:
"1. They make me use their ***** software for work. I do not have a choice.
2. They charge too much for their ***** software. Ever see how much Windows Server licenses cost? Not to mention Vista.
3. I've wasted a total of what is probably years of my life fixing problems created by idiotic Microsoft bugs and policies.
4. Microsoft stifles innovation."
1. So that's Microsoft's fault that the people that apparently are smart enough to make such decisions at your company have opted to use MS products? Please...
2. License fees? Boy, gotta love a company that can come to your house and hold a gun to your head to MAKE you buy their software, when there are no alternatives. Please...
3. Wasting time fixing their problems? Given that Windows is a platform for literally millions of 3rd party software and hardware products, how many so-called Windows problems are really the result of poor drivers and/or other 3rd party software? Can you name any perfect OS or other software that never needs bug fixes? Please...
4. How does anyone even answer that? That's such a drive-by comment that's not supported by any facts. Elaborate?
Lest you think otherwise, I'm no huge supporter of Microsoft. I don't see them as any different than any other large company that wants to have market share. That's what it's all about. MS can be faulted for many things, but it amazes me that people think that GOOGLE is the be all and end all of companies, as if they are just some altruistic firm that doesn't want what any company wants.
I do see Google on the ascendancy, but I have to to tell you, I'm just as concerned about them as others seem to be about Microsoft. They already own the search engine market, and now want to branch out into seemingly everything else pc and web related. Do you want to live in a world dominated by Google? I don't. Competition is great, but is it really desirable to simply replace one behemoth with another? - The_Dude, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2MSFT has 20 billion in cash or something. Even if they start to decline, they'll just be a non-growth company (they already are based on their stock price) plodding along, still cranking out cash one way or another. Plus, just when everyone is ready to write them off, they'll unleash that touchscreen home thing like minority report.
- donsherio, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The only thing im going to kill is that website's poor choice in advertisments. Seriously, glaring orange AT&T ads ALL OVER the page contrasted by the dark purple of the site's body hurts. Sure theyre complimentary colours, but the orange is so strong its hard to even look at the article... Is their only advertiser seriously AT&T? or did i just get lucky having all 3 ads the same
- nnny, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3"But technologies like Gears render the operating system largely irrelevant... If productivity applications migrate to the browser, you could choose whatever OS you pleased—your apps would work anywhere and everywhere."
This is why the iPhone's Web 2.0 and Ajax based apps are a good substitute for an iPhone SDK - xShad0w, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2WTF UPDATE = GAY
- FluffyArmada, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4But now we have multiple leveled comment threads. :)
- shit, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I was hoping for the Gbox 360.
- ahsanfarhan22, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2words I didn't understand in the article...
Augur, ceremoniously, wrangle, bloated, behemoth, hegemony, oomph, swaths, pervasive, superfluous, purveyors, altruistic, flabbergasted, kill. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@adb44
And what would happen when Google partners like Dell start to built in this plugin on the browser? What about a shortcut to use it directly on the desktop? The thing look a little bit different, doesn't it? - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2this topic sucks. the story doesnt prove anything about microsoft going down.
- crazybugger, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Killing Google is even more easier.
All know that IE has 70% market.
All microsoft has to do is write ad blocker plugin for IE to block google adsense and distribute it freely.
-----That is it!---------
How many of us ever bother to change the default setting in our browser.
I bet relatively few. - OBKenobi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1[quote]a computer doesn't boot up with a web browser showing![/quote]
Have you ever used a live CD or any virtual appliances? I can show you a computer "boot up with a web browser" off a USB thumb drive, completely self-contained and able to run on practically any x86 system with no installation.
Sure it still has an OS, but that OS is not Windows, and it's free.
Once the average consumer realizes they only use 10% of their OSes functionality, they're going to start looking for simpler, hassle-free alternatives that require no installation or messing around with settings, or worrying about security. - weebit, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I don't believe it will destroy Microsoft. It may level the playing fields.
- stoppedcode12, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1This is what we call... Web 3.0
Web 2.0 - Social Networking
Web 3.0 - The internet WITHOUT the internet - whitec00, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2No offense to the original poster but the thought of this app killing Microsoft is just hype. Microsoft already has off-line synchronization. Sure it ain't perfect and could certainly use some work in terms of being better integrated across the entire OS, but it is there and MS could easily retool it to compete against Google Gears. Not only that, but you have to have sites out there that offer the functionality for Google Gears so your looking at millions of sites adopting this technology. Hard to say if that will happen.
Secondly, Microsoft Corp. and Apple Corp. are bringing out the guns with their Backup models. MS has Home Server and Apple has Time Machine. Both OS's have the ability now to sign in to their respective servers and allow access to all of your files on your home network no matter where you happen to be. Toss in synchronization and you have off line access to your stuff. Like I said, the concepts between Google and Microsoft/Apple may not exactly be the same, but these two big corporations can easily retool thier OS's to compensate for what Gears promises. Party on Garth!!!! - sathias, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1From the FAQ
"Does Google Gears automatically make my web application work offline?
Google Gears extends browsers by making new APIs available to JavaScript code."
So any bets on how long before a major security flaw is found and exploited by a hacker? - sancho, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Perhaps we'll see Google OS with Goole Gears built in. Of course, it would just be based on some flavor of Linux, but they've already made some hints that they'll eventually move in that direction.
- Comanche, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The only way to hurt microsft is to hurt them on the Corperate customer end. This will not do that. Sorry MS haterz. Microsoft will be here for a LOOOOOOOOONG time.
- ryanjensen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Take three: Alright, I tried replying within a threaded comment, but was informed that my session had expired and it deleted my comment. I'll try here:
So I have to click on "View x replies" to see threaded comments, then wait for them to load (which sometimes doesn't work)? Why reinvent the wheel, Digg? -
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