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- ender52, on 04/11/2008, -6/+19Yahoo and AOL can both die slowly together.
- Persian5Life, on 04/11/2008, -3/+15we are Microsoft, resistance is futile. prepare to be assimilated.
- SeanJuanAO, on 04/11/2008, -3/+9I really dont think any of you know what you are talking about. I wish there were some people on Digg that acutally were in the tech business and could talk a little more in depth than what you can fin on google labs or yahoo!s homepage. I find it hilarious that Flickr is the only thing that comes to mind when talking about Yahoo! when all of there 20 properties on their hompage are 1 or 2 in their respected category on the web. Where Y! failed was montezing its half a billion users better. Thanks to the amateur comments.
- bot001220, on 04/11/2008, -0/+6Speaking of AOL, I didn't know they owned engadget. =/
- fuhcough, on 04/11/2008, -0/+4because it happens everyday. the only reason you know about it is because it was 2 more well-known companies and got more press.
- mancat, on 04/11/2008, -0/+4Yahoo is huge in China, India, Indonesia, and much of Asia. So if nothing else, Microsoft gains huge mindshare in a foreign market by grabbing Yahoo. Not like that will help them anyway. Asians don't seem to buy a lot of Microsoft stuff.
Beyond the ad revenue gained from Yahoos's portal/service popularity in these regions, I really don't see the value either. - wukillabee, on 04/11/2008, -1/+5the only time i use yahoo is to play yahoo pool, thats about it...
- JQP123, on 04/11/2008, -1/+4"I really dont think any of you know what you are talking about."
If you're looking for any sort of economic/business insight, you're obviously lost.
The only thing that many people here know about business is that they don't like it. And the reason why they don't like it --- it doesn't work like Open Source software. That's it --- that's as deep (or shallow) as it gets. - bgrah449, on 04/11/2008, -0/+2Microsoft pwns the DOJ, is why.
- dacheetah, on 04/14/2008, -0/+1I find it ammusing that Microsoft, the biggest culprit of anti-competetive behaviour, are lobbying against Yahoo getting it's arse saved by Google.
"A more extensive partnership between Yahoo and Google will be challenged as anti-competitive and will almost certainly be thwarted on legal grounds. Microsoft has already begun lobbying Washington against such a move." - satanikus, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1Yahoo dominates Google in Japan, too. I think it's something of a separate entity, though, kind of like IBM Japan vs. IBM U.S.A.
- inactive, on 04/11/2008, -1/+2Google should just buy yahoo! maybe Nintendo or Apple should have a buy!
- trigun1, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1You make some good points but, the problem is that all these companies a part of the so called global market place, and they hold no allegiance to any one country. Global corporations certainly have little, to no concern for the people of any one country. People are a renewable “human resource”, a term I despise. Their concern is for the almighty “insert your favored currency here”. They are driving down wages for the benefit of the bottom line, which I think will have dreadful results for the people of “insert your country here”. At some point lower prices will be the death of the middle class, and in some areas we don’t even see lower prices. I’m afraid this is not just limited to Microsoft and Yahoo. I don’t see whoever replaces them being any better in the long term.
- WinGeek, on 10/15/2008, -1/+2Because the United States has something called a free market.
- Atomic1fire, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1And gets fined for anti competitive practices
- Atomic1fire, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1thats never going to happen
- nakani, on 04/12/2008, -0/+1Totally agree with you on the monetization comment.
Google and Yahoo are both vying to become the users' web "operating system". Your browsing history, mail, previous searches, preferences, etc are all stored and used to tailor the experience. Google seems to be more cunning, however, always staying one step ahead of the game while Y! is busy buying other startups. While I'll give credit to Y! for snagging cool stuff like their widgets (Konfabulator), Flickr and all of their nice developer tools, Google buys nice startups too, plus their in-house applications and developer tools are more refined.
When it comes down to it, Google lays down tracks into new markets, and later Y! and MS come plodding behind after - Atomic1fire, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1iYahoo?
- baylat, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1why would they?
- Atomic1fire, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1Google still has an edge over microsoft anyway
what do you do when you search for something
Google it - odiego, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1Because they are BUSY trying to figure out XM/Sirius Merger for over a year.. We are doomed..
- zebragrrl, on 04/11/2008, -0/+16. Google buys Yahoo.... Internet Over.
- psykiv, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1To me the *only* good thing that yahoo has is yahoo finance. Yahoo answers is pretty cool, but to me it amounts to nothing more than a time waster. I say Google buys Yahoo and Microsoft.
- Atomic1fire, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1If I understand right
Aol owns weblogs inc which owns engadget - dacheetah, on 04/14/2008, -0/+1Thanks, I needed a good laugh out loud. You've really made my day.
- colin8651, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1Your view of M$ having a chance of owning the world is so 1995.
- stretch611, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1Micro$oft pwns the Bush Administration, not necessarily the DOJ. The DOJ had Microsoft on the ropes in 2000 after the antitrust trial that CONVICTED Microsoft of being a monopoly and abusing that power. January 2001, Bush enters office and a short time later, the DOJ slaps Microsofts wrist telling them to stop.
- stretch611, on 04/11/2008, -0/+1Apple may just work. Can you think of combining iTunes with Yahoo? While Apple has not been the best friend of OSS, it does try to properly handle standards (I think Safari was the first browser to pass the ACID 2 test; and they are on their way to passing ACID 3) Apple is a very innovating company and can probably bring a lot of value to Yahoo!
Now if we can just convince Steve Jobs to help Yahoo. - HonoredMule, on 04/11/2008, -1/+1Great, so our culture and society are based on a "last man standing" mentality?
I can't see why more than one person would be on board with that. - lolology, on 04/11/2008, -0/+0ever try one of those pool aiming programs?
- deleted23, on 04/11/2008, -2/+2RTFA
- Lazdude, on 04/11/2008, -0/+0I prefer the scenario where Yahoo remains independant and works closer with Google.
- ElBeh, on 04/11/2008, -1/+1I agree.
- tfadman, on 04/12/2008, -0/+0beyond YAHOO ...This would be the biggest business collective ever known to man kind if it could actually gain interest. Basically we build a Holding Company at internet speed that would be owned by 320,000,000 people approximately and that company would buy out Yahoo as part of its first global business acquisitions for the greater good of humanity. The start of the buyback of civilization. Please DIGG the previous comment so it will gain more attention and conversation. Thank you.
- tfadman, on 04/12/2008, -0/+0WHY YOU SHOULD READ THIS: Yahoo takeover is one of the most important issues of the tech industry. Yahoo has become a national and international icon that should be taken back by the public.
WHAT'S IN IT FOR YOU: You can own YAHOO,INC and build a revolutionary change to business and the control large media conglomerates have over the global formatting of culture from the Americas to Europe to Asia.
GOAL: Form an international collective of internet users to takeover ownership of YAHOO,Inc.
PRICE: Less than $156.25 per user/person.
PAYOUT: Let's use the cliche "priceless"
TIMEFRAME: We have 2 weeks to campaign enough interest to achieve this goal. If you are interested in building a method to collect contribution promise notes IOU's from the (minimum) 320,000,000 users let me know. Of course this work would have to be done without compensation for the greater good.
BENEFIT: For a small price you and I will have equal ownership in one of the potentially largest media giants of the future.
WHY: YAHOO is the only viable competitor to Google and without competition Google will have too much control of our future. Even worse would be letting Microsoft or AOL takeover. We have seen where their visions have brought us. If it were the Gates Foundation soliciting a takeover, that would be a different scenario for us to contemplate. I am almost certain Microsoft will try to close the deal and I think it's especially interesting that YAHOO's president Susan Decker and Bill Gates are both Director's of one of WallStreet's largest Holding companies. No conspiracy theory, but they seem like they would get along with each other and when your making business acquisitions it's easier if you can keep current chief management in place.
I am probably one of the largest fans of Google using almost every service they offer including a vast amount of advertising features, analytics, BASE, search, google earth, gmail, igoogle, images, blogger and you name it. I even attended the Google dance last year and wear my free Google Dance tshirt at least once a month.
Oh yeah...then Why should I care about Yahoo? The same reason you should. To gain control of future media giants that prefer to have us hovering over our keyboards drooling over an advertisement that includes Britney Spears and a little monkey taking handouts (poor example but the idea is humanity rapidly loosing control as we are force fed by media giants).
HOW THIS COULD POSSIBLY WORK:
Form a cooperative of 320,000,000 internet users (or more to reduce individual capital cost) from around the world who contribute $156.25 to buy out YAHOO for approx. 50 billion dollars in what would be the most elaborate takeover of a company that the world has seen. Who controls the money exchange? Well I assure you with 320,000,000 people cooperating we will figure out a way. I'm sure some of us will be business lawyers or Ivy League business graduates who will be willing to cooperate and facilitate the transaction for the greater good knowing that the free publicity will pay off dividends in the future.
ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS:
By forming this buyout holding company we preserve a worldwide legacy and business empire. At the same time control of the empire is handed over to the 320,000,000+ individuals who own the company. The international distribution of ownership would make YAHOO the biggest republic by the people for the people a true democracy. How can 320,000,000 people run a company? Only 1 person runs the company and for now that's Jerry Yang. What we do is vote via unanimous proxy vote on who will run the company as the future unfolds. Perhaps elect representatives that will make sure the interests of the 320,000,000 owners are upheld basically like running a nation. Instead this would be the first nation that truly has no borders. Perhaps this could be the first physical flattening of our world.
How do we make YAHOO a viable company and protect our interest. That's where 320,000,000+ owners come into play. Like minute men, we can pull our equal shareholders together to address issues at bay. If it requires putting pressure on another media giant until our common interest is upheld, then so be it. We are 320,000,000 strong and a force to be reckoned with. So my feeling is that the media giants will have to conform to our needs. The needs of humanity. My longterm vision is that Google will see the success of this business equalization and sell itself into the same economic model where a large mass of the earth's population owns the business and it looks after the business so that the business will look after it's nation of people.
LONG STORY SHORT: Maintaining a competitive business environment among media giants is critical. Since media has the largest influence over humanity, then who better to control it then the common collective of humanity. Or we could just let one guy control everything and hope he doesn't prescribe an active ingredient of alien drool to our diet.
TF-(One person with a big vision for the greater good) - execute85, on 04/11/2008, -2/+2How about #6, Microsoft buys yahoo. This article seems to be missing the most likely scenario.
No one wants AOL. A Yahoo/AOL merger would be as awesome as the Excite/@home merger. Where does this logic of "two crappy properteries put together equals one good property" come from? - JasonCox, on 04/11/2008, -4/+3I'm all for just leaving Yahoo! alone to die a slow miserable death and spending that money on other things. As a person who owns Microsoft stock, I don't see the value of buying Yahoo! besides gaining a few search and ad marketshare points against Google. Live Search, as much as you guys may laugh at it, is a good product and is pretty darn accurate and Windows Live is shipping products with 1000x more quality than what Google is shipping (ex: GoogleTalk [beta]). With the exception of getting Flickr and the Yahoo.com portal, there's no real value here.
- webyatri, on 04/11/2008, -2/+1I figured yahoo is doomed when I saw their beta program that competed with adsense. It had ridiculous terms and conditions(like a publisher must block his ads from being seen by anyone outside US). They just have to figure out a way to emulate adsense by 50% to start making some search based revenues. Right now they are not even at 1%. It's a pity they have to use google adsense to make money out of their own searches. The Basic of web content and consumer web apps is clear. Nobody's gonna pay for it. Yahoo's gameplan was to make some percentage of their users pay for some services. Well it aint happenin. you have to make the ads pay for it and make money off of it. Google is the only one who has figured this game out. Everybody else is scratching their ....... well head.
- jboettcher, on 04/11/2008, -2/+125 years in the future - Microsoft owns the world and it looks like this: http://digg.com/arts_culture/Talk_about_detail_Wow ...
- doppod80, on 04/11/2008, -1/+0I can't wait!!!
- fuhcough, on 04/11/2008, -3/+2survival of the fittest. big fish will ALWAYS eat little fish.
- spinaltap87, on 04/11/2008, -3/+2Yahoo! stinks besides flickr. Their email is ***** - why it took me so long to switch to gmail i don't know
- inactive, on 04/11/2008, -5/+3Why is the government not getting involved to prevent this?
- mokodo, on 04/11/2008, -4/+1.
- tao52nyc, on 04/11/2008, -3/+0As far as I'm concerned, MSFT can do a hostile takeover of Yahoo, and both can bury themselves in doing so. Why? 2 words: Chinese Dissidents. People are rotting in Chinese prisons because Yahoo and Microsoft both yielded, without even fighting about it, to Chinese government demands either to provide data on dissident traffic, or block access to certain domains. American tech firms shouldn't be helping totalitarian governments do their evil work just for the sake of profitable business advantage. You ever hear of "karma"? Well, Micro-hoo, this is it.
- TheG2, on 04/11/2008, -6/+1The article got it wrong, theres another possible scenario: the world explodes and none of this matters.



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