What is Digg?48 Comments
- phpirate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24I really don't understand the point in the MPAA and RIAA doing this kind of stuff. These are things people have been doing it for years without any complaints and they were profiting all the same. All of a sudden they completely miss the boat on the digital age and now they feel that they have the right to prevent us from doing things that we've been doing for years?
They want to stop people from being able to share music in the first place. When it comes to technology, thats just very difficult, maybe even impossible. Dispite the best efforts of the software development industry, pirated copies of windows and games get on the internet all the time for people to download. You just can't prevent it. You can DRM all the computers in the world and put music which requires licences from the internet. People will find ways around it, and it'll be the consumer who is punished, and the pirates will be rewarded. They'll just encourage less people to buy their things. Don't they get it? - wildman082, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Donate and become a member of the EFF. If you don't care about protecting your rights then just donate to get the cool sticker.
- burnstyle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20"Wow, people have been recording and distributing perfect digital copies of media over global fiber optic networks for years?"
no but I've been burning Cd's for friends.... making mix tapes... copying VHS.... recording from HBO... odds are the amount of pirated media i have distributed among friends in the late 80's and early 90's far exceeds the amount i have in recent years - DangerMouse9, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16I like the part where they fail to say that the company operating it can double or triple charge for using the infrastructure
- poobread, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14http://www.internetofthefuture.org/
The "bad guy's" prespective. - RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I like how both sides aren't above pandering to the lowest common denominator.
- mindlessxd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11It's too bad the bad guys make more interesting cartoons... that cartoon makes "smart pipes" sound so good, but I still want net neutrality.
- McLurker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11This story doesn't say anything new to me, but its a great link to send to my friends and family who don't know what DRM is.
- saskboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"that cartoon makes "smart pipes" sound so good"
The important bit to remember is that there aren't going to be actual additional "pipes" or cables. It's just a way for companies like AT&T to allow companies like eBay to pay them for Skype to work, while Voip startups can be crushed even if their code is better. The Internet is supposed to enable global market competition, not let monopolies that made it big in the 1990s, control everything for all time.
The claim that Net Neutrality would harm innovation by clogging pipes, is their opinion only, not a fact. - ZamboniDriver, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9That flash presentation says that there wouldn't be any innovation. Balloney. That's all the internet has been about. Now, these "handsoff" types that want to create "multiple lanes" want to charge multiple levels... thus JACKING up the price of the cool stuff. Frankly, I'd rather have the single lane, and let people innovate around whatever limitation they run into. That is what we've had so far. Allowing the AT&T's of the world to jack around both ends of the web will allow the big providers to control the internet. I don't want that. Pay for a connection to the internet and that is it. If I want to be a big content provider, I shouldn't have to be held hostage for a connection AND quality of service charges because some floozy at AT&T wants to pocket another $29 million in stocks and bonuses.
Neither am I a socialist. I don't want the Hillary Clinton types to step in and dream up some scheme where politicians manage the internet. Balloney. Most politicians couldn't think their way out of a wet paper bag. And we've elected them to regulate/legislate the Internet? I don't think so.
Keep it free means you don't allow the telcos to (^@^$%@ up a good thing. If someone wants to offer me 100 meg service to my house, fine... I want freedom to choose between as many providers as possible. - phpirate, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9RadiantBeing: Did I say digital copies? No. I used to record VHS tapes. Burn copies of music discs before the internet was born.
- Interex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Could you list the reasons he gave for not supporting it?
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Maybe if they had enough money they could make this into a TV commercial so the masses who don't know about the EFF could learn how the RIAA and MPAA are attempting to ***** all over consumer's rights.
- DennisMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I really hope you americans could stop this crazy Copyright robbers. If not, surely we should get it to Europe.
I should make a donation to EFF even if I'm from in Sweden. Here we have formed a political party called
"The Pirate Party". It wants to fundamentally reform copyright law, get rid of the patent system, and ensure that citizens' rights to privacy are respected. http://www2.piratpartiet.se/the_pirate_party - Optimus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Is that Condoleezza Rice?
http://www.eff.org/corrupt/mrs.png - anon52, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Good luck getting the proposed commercial past the censors on ClearChannel, etc.
I just received a MoveOn notification that a commercial station in the Virgina DC suburbs has rejected a paid-political advert that apparently didn't have the *right* message.
As we continue down this path of allowing the content and media providers to become part of the empires of the wealthy merchants and politicos, we'll continue to lose the ability to speak our own minds. - argoff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5
Cool, but I don't think writing congress will help. Governments are designed around organizing power and force, but aren't too accountable when it comes to information. They benefit the most from the manipulated media system and they are not going to give that up till it's forced upon them from the outside. IMHO, our best bet would be civil disobedience and defiance until the copyright cartel collapses upon itself. By definition, the information age is commoditizing information and making it impossible to control it no matter how big the government is. We should take advantage of that to force the issue from the outside, we should force the government to be our follower and not our leader. Make them understand that they must change to suit our realities and respect our liberties because we can force the issue if they don't. - riverfr0zen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Why aren't the media companies distributing their high-quality product over bittorrent in the first place? Because they are monolithic, slow, inefficient, greedy little piggies. Ever heard of karma? The entertainment industry is getting what is due. I disrespect the business that has squandered its profit through the fallacy of its own glaucomic perspective and laugh at its deserved misfortune.
- saskboy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7We needed something to fight Captain Copyright of Access Copyright in Canada.
- PopcornDave, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Wow, the ability to check my e-mail and blog faster? Sign me up for fiber optics.
Just what kind of morons is that targeted to? Geez! - trubbles, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Yay!
- wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2+ Digg for the Myth box getting crushed.
Note: Taking action is good. But send a letter, or call if you must. Don't send an email. It may get counted (not likely) but more likely will just get ***** canned. A well tought out letter is best. If you want to be smart, actually a post card gets there the fastest: it doesn't have to be screened as much. - sbovisjb1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hmmm the onion routing system they provide is alright, but nothing beats SSL connections bouncing off remote computers. Anyways Onion routing system is good for the non-technologically inclined.
- Moocat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Nope, but anyone who actually understands what this would allow companies to do in return for what type of services people, in reality, would receive, could pretty easily understand it amounts to nothing more than fatter wallets for a select few.
- jferraro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I wrote congressman Mark Green (WI resident) asking him to support Net Neutrality and he wrote me back saying that he could not support the Internet Freedom and Nondiscrimination Act with a list of reasons why he could not. Even though he did not support my opinion I'm glad to see that he is willing to keep an open dialog about the issue. It gives me a reason to do research to support my arguments. Also it proves that congress does respond to the people. Get involved and write to your congressman. It does make a difference!
- Create, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Repost...
But The Quality on this vid is better than the original (was a youtube vid)
And I Still Support the EFF, So This Gets My Digg Too - teymour, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Thanks to EFF !!
- DennisMan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I really hope you americans could stop this crazy Copyright robbers. If not, surely we should get it to Europe.
I should make a donation to EFF even if I'm from in Sweden. Here we have formed a political party called
"The Pirate Party". It wants to fundamentally reform copyright law, get rid of the patent system, and ensure that citizens' rights to privacy are respected. http://www2.piratpartiet.se/the_pirate_party - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1BitTorrent mirror here (if needed):
http://exe64.com:6969/ - jferraro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The letter I recieved is in my desk at work. I will post his reasons Monday.
- acebrickman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/Deep-packet-inspection-meets-net-neutrality.ars
heh- actually, i just googled EFF's position on net neutrality.. I'm sure this sums it all up - saskboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It was possibly a form letter, which wouldn't bet so much open dialogue, as a list of talking points from AT&T.
- juhaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1These laws do nothing to thwart "piracy", they're solely targeted at legitimate users, and the *AA know it.
Distributing the content is already illegal, do you really think people who do it are going to stop because now they're violating two laws instead of one? In addition, it only takes one person to break them, and no matter how many insane laws you pile up, or how hard you make it, there will always be that one person. Probably it's not even illegal for that one person, because there's a whole world out here, and the content industry hasn't yet managed to bribe every lawmaker on it. - SanityInAnarchy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Not that it's particularly relevant, but I'm getting sick of seeing abuses of Flash. This video obviously looks like a Flash video, right? Simplistic cartoon, lots of straight edges or edges period, perfect candidate for vector graphics, right? Except all they end up using Flash for is essentially making a slideshow out of raster images -- I don't think they even embed a normal video in there. It's easy enough to check, just zoom in.
So WTF is the point of using Flash for this? - alf86, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Was that a threat? It really seemed like a thinly veiled threat.
- pbull, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Good point -- they aren't using vectors. The other night I attempted to convert the flash file to a full-screen MPEG-2 (so I could put it on my local public access TV channel) and it ended up all pixelated. Even the EFF logo (and you know they must have a vector version of that) was bitmapped.
- LarsG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"The important bit to remember is that there aren't going to be actual additional "pipes" or cables."
What they conveniently 'forget' to say is that their extra pipes will take capacity from the existing thick cable instead of adding new ones. This is just about partitioning out chunks of the existing cable to content and service providers that pay the ISP for preferential treatment. - infra172, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1At least they avoided giving the cartoon characters hooked noses. Does anybody study history anymore?
- devzer0, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Sorry, but if this lame cartoon is the EFF's idea of defense against the corporate overlords, we're in huge trouble.
Here's an example of why I don't bother contributing to the EFF -- it's a waste of money. - pauldonnelly, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Nice idea, but what a horrible, horrible, cartoon.
- jferraro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Here is the paragraph of the letter from Mark Green citing for not being able to vote for the Internet Freedom and Nondiscrimination Act.
"There has been a lot of misinformation spread about this issue and how net neutrality provisions would affect the Internet and its users. Net neutrality is not really neutral at all; in fact, it's just the opposite. Much of the Internet's success can be attributed to the fact that it has been left unregulated by the government, and net neutrality provisions would impose regulations that would restrict companies that transfer data; stifling their ability to grow, and discouraging future investments and innovation in Internet technology. Furthermore, I'm very concerned that by restricting the growth of network providers and prohibiting their ability to manage networks they own, there will be little incentive for these companies to expand into rural areas - the communities that need broadband the most."
I typed it fast so forgive any typos. Now it's up to you to decided whether there is anything of value in those words or if it is just political side talk. Personally I'm using the information that I have recieved as a springboard to do my own research and become informed on the issue. I don't want to be one of those diggers that only reads one side of an issue and then agressive defends it to the death. I want to understand it from all sides.
Enjoy! - cquinnd, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2RadiantBeing, another point is the "perfect digital copies" arguement is a red herring.
Most "copies" are also changes to format and compressed in a manner that loses some of the
quality of the original media. And most of the material being shared was not "perfectly good" to begin with. Digital insures consistency, not quality. - infra172, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Because everybody disagrees with you has to be corrupt.
- RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Technology has made it much easier to copy and distribute perfect digital copies of media on a global scale. The laws will change to reflect this fact. Piracy happened in the past, but not on the scale possible today with the internet. Do I really have to explain why bittorrent and digital media are a bigger threat to IP than casettes and VHS tapes?
- RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -21/+1Wow, people have been recording and distributing perfect digital copies of media over global fiber optic networks for years?
The Digg Toolbar for Firefox lets you Digg, submit content, and keep track of Digg even when you're not on the Digg site. Download the official 
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is 