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- Lord_oftheTrons, on 01/25/2008, -0/+58My Favorite Robert X. Cringely quote:
"If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get one million miles to the gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside." - johlorax, on 01/25/2008, -0/+52"winners of the rest of the auctioned spectrum can simply sit on it for up to four years, building no physical network, which Verizon, for example, might do"...Yep, that sounds like typical Verizon goodwill...sheesh!
- inactive, on 01/25/2008, -4/+46Don't mind Google, they're just trying to take over the world...
- Loonacy, on 01/25/2008, -0/+27Just make sure you keep up to date backups of the people in the cars and there would be no problem.
- Alpha1337, on 01/25/2008, -2/+28“He who has no dog hunts with a cat.”
-best quote ever - typicalusername, on 01/25/2008, -1/+24This is why I love Pop Mech. That article is concise, it gives information, and although there's some speculation in it. It makes a little more sense and they go deeper than the joe schmoe news agencies coverage of it.
- inactive, on 01/25/2008, -2/+18I hope a company will do something new and innovative with this spectrum. Well, American innovation is putting a crap feature on a cell phone and locking you in until your balls turn old and droopy.
- NewPunk, on 01/25/2008, -2/+16CEO: Terrific work, so now we can build a massive nationwide wireless network with no weaknesses at all.
TechGuy: Nna.. No.
CEO: You, uh, hesitated there. Is there something I should know?
TechGuy: No, it's virtually indestructable, like 99.99%.
CEO: Well, wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't ask "what's the .01"?
TechGuy: Well.. If a couple of people decided to hack their slingboxes they could take down the entire network.
CEO: Woah woah woah, that sounds like a major design flaw.
TechGuy: Naw, who buys slingboxes anyways. - smackhero, on 01/25/2008, -0/+13i hope that they win the C block and trade Sprint for a chunk of their 1200 MHz spectrum to develop an open cellular data network on. imagine the kind of open application development platform that the internet has become, except for a nationwide cellular network.
the telecoms have pretty much precluded any sort of application development on our nation's cellular networks because only a handful of pre-approved devices can be used on each cellular network, all of which uses the telecom's own proprietary technology. contrast this with the development platform that the internet has evolved into, where an open communications standard has been put in place and pretty much anyone can freely develop their own applications on it, turning the internet into a hotbed for innovation.
it's so sad when you think about what our cellular networks could have been instead of what it has become. but hopefully google's bid on the new spectrum will change things. - battybattybatt, on 01/25/2008, -1/+12You have presented the perfect felacious arguement, as HUMANS COMMUNICATE THROUGH AIR PRESSURE WAVE INTERPRETATION, NOT THROUGH RADIO WAVES. Electronic devices called "Radios" use RF as a backdrop as humans use air. The other GIANT ozone hole in your arguement is (beside being WILDLY OFF-TOPIC) the FCC Co-ordinates and sells USAGE rights , NOT OWNERSHIP RIGHTS.
- laterallateral, on 01/25/2008, -0/+11What if every router came with a neat foil helmet, would that help?
2 deflekt da wifi dethrayz - tastypastry, on 01/25/2008, -5/+15Google phone.
- childprey, on 01/25/2008, -2/+12you could get the mac car for $150, which would last four years, but could only drive on 1/4 the roads
- Aero347, on 01/25/2008, -0/+9It'd be nice to have an emergency system in place to shoot me a text message when my county is at an immediate risk (Hurricane watch/Tornado watch).
- bordo, on 01/25/2008, -4/+11Its better Google than the US government...
- Lavar, on 01/25/2008, -0/+7I would hope that you wouldn't need a text message to let you know a hurricane is about to hit your area.
- nevek89, on 01/25/2008, -0/+7How do slingboxes take down a whole cell - can't they cap bandwidth per user?
- dracostimpy, on 01/25/2008, -1/+8"Felacious"? Sounds kinky!
- sandburn, on 01/25/2008, -0/+6HAM radio operators are restricted to certain spectra, so yes - it would be illegal for a hobbiest radio station to use a commercially allocated spectrum...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio_frequen ... - mablung, on 01/25/2008, -0/+5the same thing we do every night pinky...
- brufleth, on 01/25/2008, -0/+5Radiation at these frequencies can't do much. Microwaves usually use radiation of about 2450 MHz and it still just heats up water (within a short range given high power).
To cause any sort of damage you need ionizing radiation which these radio frequencies are not. You receive more harmful radiation from walking to your car on a sunny day than you would from any radio sources you might be exposed to. - MacEnvy, on 01/25/2008, -0/+4Hey, take it easy. Your caplock is hurting my e-ears.
- digjam, on 01/25/2008, -0/+4I just hope google gets it and wont mind at all even if they dont do anything with it.. rather than verizon or att getting it... those are cash hungry whores...if this spectrum ends up in hands of verizon or att... we re all screwed!
- evan5000, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3As someone currently applying to work as an internet policy specialist for Google, I thought the article was very informative and well-written. What he doesn't mention explicitly is how this auction will play into the introduction of the Android OS later this year. While some may speculate, its clear that Google would love to offer constant connections for their phones, preferably for free. Personally, that beats the hell out of paying $45/month for Verizon's data plan. I realize people put down Google a lot, but I think in this situation, people should give Google more credit for standing up for the interests of the average citizen
- typicalusername, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3Did that make any ***** sense to anyone else? I've read it 3 times and I'm still trying to decipher it.
- bittie, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3Sprint's already testing this in California right now.
http://www.rcrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/ ... - typicalusername, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3Um, aren't these the broadcasts and frequencies already in use by Television stations? So, I'm gonna be protected from stuff that people are already broadcasting on? Makes no sense...
- zacharytelschow, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3This type of move by Google is exactly the same thing I'd love to see in other areas: a push for open competition and deregulation. In the long run, this will produce the best product for the consumer.
- johlorax, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3Anything Google can do to undermine the Telecos bass ackward approach to providing services (and bilking customers) is definitely a step in the right direction!
- edwartica, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3I am semi surprised that mircosoft isn't involved in the auction as well. Or maybe they are and I just haven't heard about it.
- typicalusername, on 01/25/2008, -2/+5Grats to spelling your countries name differently... Too bad my ***** country has always spelled it with a Z, which is how I'm going to spell it.
- digjam, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2AMEN!
- battybattybatt, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2since you didn't manufacture the vacuum motor, you can not be sued AT ALL, because NUMBER one - a vauum motor intention is spin, not broadcast RF.
- mt4055, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Right about what?
- mt4055, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Ignore the man behind the curtain.
- xanfish, on 01/25/2008, -4/+6If google wins, it'll be very interesting to see what they do with this.
- mt4055, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2@brufleth: You receive more harmful radiation from walking to your car on a sunny day than you would from any radio sources you might be exposed to.
That's it. I'm not going to work any more. Evil sun! - mt4055, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2And if it wasn't regulated, the spectrum would be totally useless because every hobbiest radio operator, independent TV station and Indian down the street would be doing what ever they want with it at what ever power they wanted.
In the 60's, Wolfman Jack became famous while broadcasting over the Mexican "border blaster" XERB. Immortalized by George Lucas in the 1973 film, "American Graffiti". This is still happening to some extent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_blasters - p0tent1al, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Lulz, from the linux article the other day
- overkilpro, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2I for one welcome our new google overlords
- Matteos, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Dugg for the Brain!
- jonshipman, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Yeah, all these frequencies happen in nature, we're just taking advantage of them. :-)
- jsd8cc, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Interesting article, especially after reading this:
700MHz Auction: Thrill May Be Gone
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jh ... - chancel, on 01/25/2008, -1/+3If the signal travels further, then that means a cell phone tower would cover a bigger footprint. In heavily populated urban areas, more users would be sharing the same cell phone tower; thus decreasing the share of bandwidth you are likely to get.
- funkywood, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2OK. First result is http://www.apple.com/iphone/
Now what? - hollyminkowski, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2RF is basically a sine wave, the lower the frequency of the sine wave the lower the amount of data that it can carry.
Data is usually impressed upon the sine wave by varying its frequency and or amplitude.
If you went all the way down to say the ridiculous frequency of 1hz or one sine wave cycle/second it is easy to
see that very little data could be sent on such a wave.
Don't confuse this with the methods used to carry ethernet data on household 60hz electrical wiring...this is not
the same sort of thing as the 60hz signal is not modulated with the data, the wire is simply used to carry signals in addition to the normal 60hz ac. - reddikilowatt, on 01/27/2008, -0/+1Don't modern coding schemes (OFCOM, QAM, QPSK) make a lot better use of spectrum by sending multiple bits at a time? For example, 256 QAM on a cable system can push 8 bits/symbol at 5.7M symbols/sec. It doesn't matter where on the spectrum it is, just that the signal ends up being 6MHz wide.
- aarons44, on 01/25/2008, -2/+3I'm guessing not, at least not in current networks. I use my Slingbox all the time, and I've never been restricted from getting the max throughput that was available to me. Having said that, I'm also still on EDGE, so my max isn't that great anyhow. Between 65-100Kb/s. Eventually all carriers will probably just put a section in their usage policy stating that "unlimited data" really doesn't mean that, and bar heaving streaming services. After all, they're already trying to do it with broadband.
- ogore, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Radio/ TV waves have a much bigger wavelength than normal light only the ones on the other side of the spectrum are small enough to interfere with our DNA and cause cancer.
- jonshipman, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1Buried for reminding me spymac still exists
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