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- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+47"Fact my mac mini has no front usb port for my shuffle."
Exactly how far from the front is the back on the Mac Mini again? - SteaminTmann, on 10/12/2007, -7/+45Yea, I'm sure Apple has no interest in making money.......
- ThreeBowls, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38Hard to respect a list that doesn't include either the Commodore 64/VIC-20 or the Timex Sinclair- machines that many people started on.
- dsendecki, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27No Commodore 64, no digg.
- quakeIII, on 10/12/2007, -10/+29I think the funny part is that an Apple wins the greatest PC of all time award.
- rompom7, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Stop trying to compare Apple and Dell. (insert pun about apples and oranges here)
They are totally different companies with a totally different structure, totally different products, totally different targets, totally uncomparable.
Btw, no Commodore 64. I don't think this writer has done enough research. Doesn't get my digg. - supremo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Commodore 64 ! :-)
- learnossdotcom, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16It's funny how PC World never acknowledged Macs as a "PC" and now they are finally realizing that Macs are "personal computers".
PFFT!! - ronaldst, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Well at least the list had an Amiga at #7. But the lack of C64 on the list is a serious omission. They should have put it between 1 and 5. The C64 was way more popular than the Atari 800.
- Kingconsulting, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11How can a list not include the C64? Half on that list don't even belong on it. What about the TI-99/4a ? The first imac?
- generalleoff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10it was a hell of a lot better then the Apple II as well. It's status as the #1 best selling PC in history even today proves that.
If it was my list I would have put # 1 - 4 in this order
#1 C64
#2 A500
#3 Apple II
#4 Mac Original (Why the hell did they use a Plus?) - TheTrueAPlus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I must admit, even tho I dugg, no Commodore 64 makes for a poor, incomplete list. I remember the tape drive that used the audio cassette format. The first blue screen that didnt mean death... those were the days...
- natterca, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Just wanted to agree with all the posts about no C64. Even though the Apple ][ was the first PC I programmed on (at School), the C64 was the first computer I could afford to purchase by working all summer flinging hay bales.
- damndj, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10No Commodore 64? No Amiga 500? Come on, PC World... That is a major oversight.
- Chewie67, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10EXACTLY!
I'd bet that more of today's "Great" programmers learned on that system than anywhere else. - Crim, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I kept clicking "next page" waiting to see where the Commodore 64 would rank, and it never did. The c64 did more for the home computer market than any other machine; and many, if not most of the 25-45 IT crowd cut their teeth on it.
I bet you found more c64s under the Christmas Tree than all these others combined. It may not have been a design wonder, nor a portable marvel, but it deserves mad props for being in the bedroom of more BBS Pirates than any other computer.
R.I.P. little buddy. - mouthster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Gotta put another 2 cents for the C64. That computer was so popular it spawned computing sub-cultures (Fairlight anyone?).
LOAD"*",8,1 - xst4t1kx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9How did the Trash 80's make this list and the Commodore-64 did not.
- MobbyG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@ronaldst
"Well at least the list had an Amiga at #7. But the lack of C64 on the list is a serious omission. They should have put it between 1 and 5. The C64 was way more popular than the Atari 800."
Yeah. I knew more people with C=64s then I did with Ataris. Not to say the Atari wasn't good. I only got to use it once or twice. - Balanced, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I have to say that Apple likes the money, too.
- tyns, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7C64 was better than the Amiga? What the hell are you talking about? The Amiga was probably one of the greatest designed desktops of all time. Featuring the Amiga OS which was truly one of the first feature rich GUI based Operating Systems.
This list is absolutely bizarre to not have included the Amiga 500 / 2000 and the C64 ... These three machines alone were machines that showed the actual true potential of having a computer in the home.
I don't even recall a friend in my neighbourhood that DIDN'T have or want one of these machines. - nomore, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9The Amiga should be #1. So far ahead of its time in terms of both hardware and software. In 1965 it had a true pre-emptive operating system with a microkernal. Windows didn't get than until Windows 95 10 years later and Macintosh didn't get than until 2001.
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11You can plug in 2, it depends on how the USB device is designed (Whether bulky or slim) and Dell usually has double the amount of USB ports as opposed to others.
- daypah, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The elementary school I went to still has two Apple II's. My mother teaches there now and I guess they still have them out in the "computer lab" they have set up.
- QualZe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@supremo
I Agree no Commodore 64, no Texas Instruments TI-94, no ZX-spectrum = No digg! - cpawl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+510 ?"The good old days";
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30 RUN - Stickarm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8This list is very focused on North American computers.
Where is the BBC Micro?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Micro
We had the Commodore 64. European kids had the BBC Micro. Wouldn't we be complaining if someone in Europe wrote up this list but omitted the Amiga?
Where is the MSX?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSX
Hideo Kojima's Metal Gear video games grew up on the MSX! Castlevania was born on the MSX -- before it was called Castlevania or Akumajo Dracula, this series was just one game for the MSX called Vampire Killer. Young programmers from Russia and Asia grew up hacking on this system. - V1ncent, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7The C64 was like the most successful computer in its day. Bad article. I still play C64 games they're still great!
- canderson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9From that page, if you'd take the time to read it :
***Actually, that connector is for the external drive bay USB power (it's a double connector). The USB connections you sould use first are on the back of the PC.*** - afreytes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6No Commodore 64?
From WikipediA: "In August of 1982, the Commodore 64 was released to the public. It found initial success because it was marketed and priced aggressively. It had a BASIC programming environment and advanced graphic and sound capabilities for its time, similar to the Colecovision console. It would become the most popular home computer of its day in the USA and many other countries and the best-selling single computer model of all time internationally." Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_computer_and_video_games
No digg. - GjooGjoob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Where's the NeXTcube???
- tyns, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Summer Games / Winter Games / World Games anyone.. ?? C64 rawked.
- mitrovarr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6As I understand it, the C64 is the most popular single computer design of all time. Not including it on the list can be described as nothing but 'ridiculously huge oversight'. Personally, I think the IBM PC should have probably been first (not overwhelmingly innovative, but it paved the way to come), the C64 second, and the Apple II third at best.
That list included a stupidly high number of modern and semi-modern laptops. I mean, maybe one should be there, for introducing the modern laptop form-factor, but not so many as it had. The only possible explanation for the Qosmio being on there is that Toshiba bought its way on; it really makes the entire article and by association PC World impossible to take seriously. - mberrisford, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I agree, this list is bogus. Every kid I knew growing up had a C64.
- Wolfboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6the Kaypro was portable. The Amiga was not.
- Mudbeast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@lord.merel
The c64 was more POPULAR than the Amiga. However the Amiga was an amazing machine. I own one still. Got it around 91 or so. It was already old then but man it blew away my friends' console systems. The Amiga port of Flashback was way better than the Genesis version. Ever played flashback? It was better on the Amiga.Better graphics. Better sound. TONS of free games via the local BBS. - rekrapt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I was shocked at the lack of a C-64 entry as well and the Timex-Sinclair 1000 was nifty too.
- graemee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I can tell you why, it's becau
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Guru Meditation Error #000000004.0000AAC0 - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7"Ever tried plugging a USB device into the back of a Mac Mini without turning it around first? It's a pain in the ass, because you're doing it blind."
I guess I'm the only one in the world who can remember the position and configuration of ports behind my computer without using my eyes. Most cables only connect in one direction, so there's no risk of plugging it in upside down, USB can go to any port so there's no problem in plugging the wrong cable into the wrong slot. So just as long as you remember the orientation, there's "no wrong way to plug in the cable".
I have no problem and I routinely unplug and plug in keyboards, USB cables, monitor cables, MIDI cables, audio cables and power cables without looking, which comes in really handy when you've gotta set up quickly or get out quickly. Which is what the Mac Mini was designed to do in the first place ;) - dotuplink, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7The Apple ][ really was a revoultionary computer and brought it to consumers and people like you! :) Thank you Woz and Jobs!
- BTime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@lord.merel
I'm guessing you probably weren't born yet when those systems were around. The Amiga and Atari ST were the main competetors against the then PC's & Apple. The C64 should definitely be on the list, but to say it blows away the Amiga just shows your ignorance. Oh, you might also want to note that the Amiga was primarily owned and distributed by Commodore after purchasing the Amiga corporation.
The list is sadly lacking the Timex/Sinclair and the Atari ST/TT - Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The complete list:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,126692-page,14-c,systems/article.html
My first PC was a TRS-80 with a whopping 4K of RAM. You loaded programs via cassette tape or cartridges. It used to take 10 minutes to load Space Invaders from cassette, I loved that thing. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5PC World has been getting worse and worse lately.
- deepdish, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This list brought back a lot of memories. To think, if it wasn't for my TRS-80 I wouldn't be where I am today. I think I owned 7 of the computers on this list.
- kennpeters, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I did the same thing, except for the TI-99/4a.
I *still* fondly remember many an afternoon or weekend spent typing a 200- or 300- or more line program out of a computer magazine (usually with my mom doing as much as half of it, great kid-parent time) so I could play a game. Then having to do it again for the next game, and not even being able to save the programs for the next time, but having to do it all again if I ever wanted to play that game again.
That little hundred dollar hunk of plastic and silicon probably single-handedly cemented my love of technology :-) - space1nvaders, on 10/06/2008, -0/+3I agree the C64 should at least be in the top 5.
- user98887, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I will agree the Apple II could be considered the best PC from apple. In fact it still is compared to what they have now.
Commodore 64 should be number 1, with out a doubt
then
IBM XT
TRS80 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I fully agree,
Is a highly inaccurate article on the history or pc's. The laptops had no place there whatsoever apart to blatantly promote it like an infomercial.
and no c64, vic20, beeb, sinclair ?, for omitting c64 I hope the author is burried the same landfill that has all the atari ET games :P.
Article marked as inaccurate. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3no commodore 64, marked as inaccurate.
off all pc's to trully make an impact it was the c64, most units sold, longest usage history. -
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