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ThePirateBay.org files charges against media companies

thepiratebay.org — "Thanks to the email-leakage from MediaDefender-Defenders we now have proof of the things we've been suspecting; the big record and movie labels are paying professional hackers, saboteurs and ddosers to destroy our trackers. While browsing through the email we identified the companies that are also active in Sweden". TPB reported this to the police

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  • thunderownz, on 11/09/2007, -3/+910Support your local Pirates! Yarr
    • m3mn0n, on 11/02/2007, -0/+188Karma's a bitch, arrr!
      • linkinpark342, on 11/02/2007, -0/+99you mean Karrr-ma's a bitch?

        i sense something amiss in the force
      • ijake, on 11/02/2007, -53/+9Talk like a Pirate day was yesterday guys... come on, get with it.
        • Audacitor, on 11/02/2007, -1/+46TLAP day is any damn day we pirates like it.
        • juicys, on 11/02/2007, -3/+25every day is talk like a pirate day
        • homer420032003, on 11/02/2007, -4/+8Except Christmas
          • aywwts4, on 11/02/2007, -1/+25...Which is talk like a Jesus Pirate Day.
            "Bless'd be dogs who scurvy and thirst for righteousness, for avast, they shall get grog and wenches."
            Arrrr, bless ye.
    • Goodbyeworld, on 11/02/2007, -32/+9local? this is going international!

      Pirates: (sign for infinity)... Anti-Pirates: 0
    • staplez, on 11/02/2007, -2/+62They're not local. I'm all about TPB, and I support what they stand for. But Sweden isn't local for me. I still support them! YARRR
      • Gir53457, on 10/14/2007, -29/+1Look, honestly people. I like downloading loads of music, movies and games as much as the next software pirate, but When you guys claim you support the Pirate Bay and what they stand for you're not supporting some cause, you're supporting piracy.
        • ebarras, on 10/14/2007, -1/+26..and supporting piracy we arrrrrrr!
        • xister, on 10/13/2007, -1/+29Suppotring Piracy?!??!! By supporting a site called the PIRATE BAY??? I would have NEVER guessed....
        • Scarfy, on 10/13/2007, -1/+19Who said piracy isn't a cause?
        • JudeMaverick, on 10/13/2007, -1/+6We have a reason to fight... Piracy!
    • ilgaz, on 11/02/2007, -4/+40Do you think with 10.000 servers and tools dedicated to conspiring all forms of P2P, such companies didn't "touch" to legal p2p downloaders? There are stories about people getting letter from Govt. because they downloaded Linux ISO image which is _perfectly_ legal. There are people who downloads completely free movies getting stuck at 99%. Wonder the reason?
      • MaxPayne3476, on 11/02/2007, -12/+26what the hell are you going off on?
        • ilgaz, on 11/02/2007, -0/+41I think people figured it already. They weren't just after some pirated movies, they were after P2P itself.

    • monkzero, on 11/02/2007, -19/+5Great example from the song.. "Do what you want 'cuz a pirate is free. You are a pirate!!"
    • codelogic, on 11/02/2007, -0/+45What's interesting is that the emails can really be used as proof now, since MediaDefender acknowledged them and issued cease and desists. Ha!
      • oneoverzero, on 11/02/2007, -0/+15they could be used before, just it would require an extra subpoena.
    • DesktopGeneral, on 11/02/2007, -0/+8Drink up me harties YO HO
    • viewtiful4ever, on 10/14/2007, -16/+2Thanks to thepiratebay I downloaded microsoft office '07 crack, and got a D- on my World Economy essay... nah, but for real, I love tpb, or else never would've had Microsoft Office, Photoshop CS3, and Thrice album! TBP 4 LIFE!!!
    • raymore, on 10/14/2007, -2/+4YARR Cap'n
    • MaruLono, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4AVAST! Ye just missed Talk-Like-a-Pirate Day! http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html
    • bagelpirate, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4Support your local scurvey bastards
  • JiMiThInG, on 11/02/2007, -1/+486Maybe this will result in raids by the officials in Sweden against the guilty companies.
    • sandrob57, on 11/02/2007, -0/+47Unfortunately, I doubt it.

      But we can all dream...
    • Genma, on 11/02/2007, -1/+17haha fat chance, too bad the law only accepts information that the big media companies call their bitches to obtain by force. though we know had it been the other way around this would all be accepted as irrefutable evidence to get them shut down for good. but even the govt is supposed to get a court order to be able to use this type of information whether it is tapped or seized, I say good luck with that tpb.
      • AfterbrthTycoon, on 11/02/2007, -1/+1I';m sorry but you are pretty much totally wrong on this one. Swedish law allows ANY EVIDENCE TO BE PRESENTED PERIOD. The court then evaluates what will be allowed based on their own discretion. The evidence we are talking about here (hacked emails) is a type that has been legitimately presented many times in Sweden over the years and I'm willing to bet their will be NO problem using it in court.
    • CalmLlama, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18They are part of the EU right? Its not like the EU likes these companies, if these companies disobey EU law then the EU will act on it.
      • pankkake, on 10/14/2007, -1/+1Only if it means big money for the EU.
    • dandiemer, on 11/02/2007, -1/+9Can TPB use confidential (possibly illegal) files to fight these companies?
    • CalmLlama, on 11/02/2007, -0/+12They can if it was a leak
    • Vicujozobenaxod, on 10/14/2007, -14/+1Uh, if that happens, it would be unprecendented. You might as well see drug smugglers suing the FBI for using illegal tactics. This is a known group of people involved in illegal activity trying to use the legal system. This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of and if anything there should be a full investigation to all prosecutors who filed these charges and their known associates.
      • jivemasta, on 10/14/2007, -1/+12Pirating isn't illegal there. Hacking and DDoSing is.
      • geekoid, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6jivemasta is correct. In Sweden, The Pirate Bay is doing nothing illegal. However, the companies behind these obvious attacks are.
  • SurePete, on 11/02/2007, -7/+124wohooo :D
    • supermanred, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4To those about to pirate, I salute you.
  • ardarvin, on 11/09/2007, -1/+563It's refreshing to see a pirate website on the offensive.
    • maverex, on 10/10/2007, -2/+26It's nice to see all these positive things happening for us pirates!! Signs of hope!
    • chyya, on 10/14/2007, -4/+14i also think that it's refreshing to see a pirate website on the offensive.
      • Nossie, on 10/14/2007, -1/+11you also just wanted over 340+ diggs :P
  • theubermensche, on 11/09/2007, -3/+428Now that's a great definition of irony.
    • notque, on 10/14/2007, -23/+6http://www.piratesandemperors.com/
    • notque, on 10/14/2007, -64/+6Well our
      Story begins, you know, with old St. Augustine.
      Way back in days of old he reported on this theme:
      A mighty emperor had caught himself a pirate who
      Was a-terrorizin' people who were sailin' on the open seas.

      ALEXANDER THE GREAT: What meanest thou by keeping hostile possession of the sea?

      PIRATE: What meanest thou by seizing the whole earth; because I do it with a petty ship, I'm called a robber, whilst thou who dost the same with a great fleet art styled emperor.

      NARRATOR: And old St. Augustine thought that was a pretty smart answer!

      'Cause there are
      pirates and emperors, but they're really the same thing
      When they go and try to reach the same ends
      By using the same means.
      Well they do it big
      or they do it small
      From a little tiny boat,
      or from hallowed halls.
      Bully is as bully does, that's plain to see.

      NARRATOR: Speaking of bullies, what would you say about a gang of vicious, low-down thugs who were trying to overthrow the government by attacking undefended civilian targets like schools, farms, hospitals, & outreach centers?

      UNCLE SAM: Why, I'd say they were terrorists!

      [BUZZER SOUND and SUPER: "Wrong!"]

      NARRATOR: I'm sorry, the correct answer is "Freedom Fighters." At least that's what you called THESE thugs, a.k.a. the Contras, when you funded their campaign of terror and indiscriminate killing to overthrow the government of Nicaragua!

      There was trouble in the land of Nicaragua in the '80's, it's true.
      And Uncle Sam has always said this kind of thing just really won't do.
      So he paid for a bag full of dirty tricks
      And turned killers into heroes with a P.R. blitz
      Well freedom's sure a funny word for what the Contras did do.

      Y'know there are
      pirates and emperors but they're really the same thing
      Even the ones who say they just wanna let freedom ring.
      Well they do it big
      or they do it small
      But only one goes down when they break the law
      While the Big One claims "This really don't apply to me"

      NARRATOR: The funny thing about "pirates" and "emperors" is that they often start out as pals who get into a tiff somehow and end up enemies.

      KID: You mean like Lex Luthor and Superman!

      NARRATOR: Yeah, except Lex Luthor was a nice guy before he lost all his hair, whereas Manuel Noriega, Sadam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden were all known thugs and mass-murderers when they were on Uncle Sam's payroll. That's why they got the job! Either that, or Uncle Sam is just a really bad judge of character.

      UNCLE SAM: I don't understand why this keeps happening to me?!

      Well not so long ago we thought Saddam here was a pretty swell guy
      And we helped him get the goods to make the Ayatollah Khomeini cry
      But Uncle Sam decided it was not Saddam's fate
      To be the leader of his Middle Eastern client state
      That was sitting on top of a big huge oil supply.

      Big and little thugs got thuggery in common
      Even if one's got stars and stripes on 'im.
      Bully is as bully does, that's plain to see.

      'Cause if it looks like a duck
      And acts like a duck,
      And quacks like a duck,
      It probably is a duck.
      You know a rose is a rose
      no matter how much it stinks.

      DUCK: I resent that comment.
      I'm not a duck, I'm an anti-duck!
      I'm a counter-duck!
      Well I'm more of a mallard really...
      Why, I'm fighting a War on Ducks!
      Any ducks come around here, I'm gonna blast 'em!

      THE END


      © 2004 Eric Henry
      • homer420032003, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0So, the story is about a Duck and Uncle Sam?
    • osullivanbr, on 10/31/2007, -1/+21Did anyone even read this whole thing. Calm down there Dickens!!
      • MarkOfTheDead, on 10/14/2007, -0/+13For real. If this ***** keeps up Digg is going to need a novel section.
  • derekivey, on 10/14/2007, -2/+117Direct link to blog entry - http://thepiratebay.org/blog/86
    • Floris, on 10/14/2007, -0/+29When I submitted it I thought I entered the full link, but once submitted it turned out to be just the main url, bit weird.... maybe because I was logged in at the site or something.
  • KirbyMeister, on 10/14/2007, -11/+67HELL YEAH!!!!!
  • M4v3R, on 10/27/2007, -0/+229Oh the irony, pirates team up with the police.
  • Harbinger67, on 10/14/2007, -1/+137*raises the Jolly Roger*
  • SurePete, on 10/10/2007, -15/+34also check out: http://digg.com/tech_news/PirateBay_fires_a_broads ...
  • danasghar, on 10/14/2007, -0/+124There's a movie script in this somewhere...
    • notque, on 10/14/2007, -2/+49that will immediately be released on the bay!
      • creppie, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0Old news. I had a CAM.DvD-Quality.screener copy weeks ago.
    • Kitsune818, on 10/10/2007, -0/+27Just as long as in the plot there are no "Gibsons", no one "loses their identity", and no one sends aliens a virus from their powerbook.
  • rstarr, on 10/10/2007, -54/+8Because the authorities are going to investigate these claims to the fullest extent...((rolls eyes))
  • MikeonTV, on 10/31/2007, -5/+322It's a trick. The movie companies want Pirate Bay to bankrupt the film industry so that they don't have anything to pirate. Well done movie industry, well done.
    • TheSnuffster, on 10/14/2007, -0/+35It's not a trick, It's a trap!
    • SimonGray, on 10/14/2007, -1/+18Genius!
    • ThreeDee912, on 10/14/2007, -11/+11So they want to kill themselves so their products can't be stolen...
    • tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Brilliant!
    • heystoopid, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2If Sony Paramount movie making of mostly lame ducks is any guide , they are actually bankrupting themselves , and are in desperate need of cash from the next generation home cinema equipment sales !
  • SurePete, on 10/14/2007, -49/+4also checkout: http://digg.com/tech_news/PirateBay_fires_a_broads ...
  • dragonking6v, on 10/14/2007, -3/+84This is bound to be an interesting legal battle.
    • Goodbyeworld, on 10/14/2007, -0/+31For sure. But don't worry, even if the hearing is closed-door, someone will bootleg a copy and torrent it.
    • Crosshare, on 10/14/2007, -0/+13What's awesome is it's criminal, not just civil.
    • CalmLlama, on 10/14/2007, -6/+1I hope so, but no subtitles!! I really hate subtitles.
  • Snakedal337, on 10/14/2007, -4/+53Awesome! You guys are my heroes!
  • SilentJay74, on 11/02/2007, -7/+78Pirates have just kicked some Ninja ass!!!!!
  • DeusNova, on 11/09/2007, -5/+185Pirates - 435905902943029432
    Major Companies - 0
    • dsmx, on 10/14/2007, -1/+22Thats a bit of an underestimate don't you think?
      • superal1394, on 10/14/2007, -0/+17he forgot the x10^123904123903409348902093904
        • drummer1189, on 10/14/2007, -7/+1ROFL thats still zero. i loved the old crowd so much more.
    • burden555, on 10/14/2007, -0/+51dont you mean
      Pirates - 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0
      Major Companies 0
      ????
      • demodawid, on 10/14/2007, -1/+8Oh god, not that again...
        • Jugalator, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Actually, the first thing I thought on seeing the "435905..." number was if that could have been the hex key in decimal. :-p
  • monkeyrun, on 10/14/2007, -2/+75lol, now I've seen everything.
    • mastershake329, on 10/14/2007, -0/+50have you ever seen a man eat his own head
    • UbIwerks, on 10/14/2007, -1/+33Have you ever been in a cockpit before? Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
      • mastercheif, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14I think the user base for digg is a little to young for that one.
        • MagicCake, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Eh, Airplane is on TV every once in awhile...
      • dsmx, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6Have you ever hung around a gymnasium before?
      • Wizardo55, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Roger Roger, what's our vector Victor?
      • drummer1189, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2ive seen both of those. good ***** examples dude
      • init100, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2"Have you ever seen a grown man naked?"

        Sure I have. Have you never seen a mirror?
    • sdmfbeer, on 10/14/2007, -10/+5have you ever seen Santa have sex with his reindeer and then light his own farts on fire while while Mrs. Claus does the naked polka?
      • aluminumpork, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2Oh c'mon!! *drinks beer, passes out*
      • jeremymccurdy, on 10/14/2007, -2/+7Are you twelve?
      • SantaClauz, on 10/14/2007, -0/+10I've never done that. *****. Naughty listed.
  • RanZom, on 10/14/2007, -4/+69digg this up to the top 10 of all time! This is a great day
    • longbow486, on 10/14/2007, -2/+18its a good day so far, but when PB wins it will be a GREAT day
  • astrotrain, on 10/10/2007, -1/+38This sounds like a good sequel to "The Crimson Permanent Assurance"

    "Full speed ahead, Mr. Cohen!"
    • DJCult, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1God, if I could digg you up a thousand, I would.
  • Goodbyeworld, on 10/14/2007, -47/+4talk about the kettle calling the pot black.
    • superjer, on 10/14/2007, -0/+21How so? TPB doesn't illegally hack, ddos, and spam. They just host links.
    • shawnz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4no, the pot called the kettle black. the kettle isn't that rude.
  • transfuse, on 10/14/2007, -1/+35Sweet sweet irony.
    • chyya, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3irony indeed my friend..... irony indeed
  • geehossiphats, on 10/10/2007, -0/+100Our hackers can beat up your hackers!
  • necbone, on 10/10/2007, -28/+15I WUV PIRATE BAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • kutateli, on 10/10/2007, -1/+44Haha, EXCELLENT!

    Good day to be a pirate :)
    • crushfan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I downloaded The IT Crowd's last episode and uploaded it, then downloaded again and deleted after uploading it for the second time, while I was watching it -- just to celebrate this.
    • willdud, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Bad day to be a ninja -_-
  • Nimid, on 10/10/2007, -55/+11Apologies to those that use pirate bay to download a "back-up" of copyrighted materials you've already paid a license for and also to those who are downloading legitimate media like OSS but for most people, this ought to be a bit of a moral dilemma.

    Yes, the Pirate Bay are fighting back against illegal activity but depriving a company of their legal profits is also wrong.

    You don't think the companies deserve to make as much money as they do? Fine don't buy what they produce. Support artists who sell for less or who are willing to sell you DRM-less media files.
    • Nimid, on 10/10/2007, -15/+3Damned - edit timer ran out!

      I also hope the reported companies are sued to oblivion!
    • sockdemon, on 10/10/2007, -3/+22"You don't think the companies deserve to make as much money as they do? Fine don't buy what they produce."

      I don't buy what they produce, I steal it - Problem solved!
      • actorboy, on 10/10/2007, -17/+4Wait, I thought it wasn't stealing. Oooooh, right, it's only not stealing when I use the word.
        • sockdemon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It depends how you intended the word: if you were using it as legal jargon then no, it isn't stealing; if you were using it simply to say that we take the content without the owners consent, then yes, it is stealing, although one could still debate who the actual owner is - The person who bought it, or the person who produced it? This is where tech42er's definition becomes more useful.
      • tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6You just infringe on their copyright (i.e. pirate) it. You don't technically 'steal' it. But everyone thinks it's stealing. It's like the difference between hackers and crackers.
        • sockdemon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It is stealing, it's just not, legally speaking, theft.
      • onisamsha, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I don't buy what they produce, because they overcharge for it, and they refuse to provide a legal venue that doesn't involve overpricing (99 c per song is still overboard).

    • telleck, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14The cry of "moral dilemma" has been sounded. Put aside logic and reason, and prepare for the emotional argument. "Don't you think the companies deserve [...]" Cry me a river.
      • Caffeinate, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I have no moral dilemmas. The MAFIAA organizations and all who support disruption of the internet because they are getting lobbied and otherwise paid by them deserve to go down in one huge ball of flame, taking their evil tactics, lawsuits and sanctimonious attitudes with them.
    • ilgaz, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14What about the people documented and attacked by such gestapo companies while downloading a completely legal, free movie (e.g. Elephants Dream) or Linux (e.g. Ubuntu) torrents?
      • Audacitor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Elephant's Dream was twisted. Blender FTW.
    • superjer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14The pirate bay doesn't steal anything from media companies. They basically just host links.
      If the media companies were hacking Google because Google links to (and CACHES!!) lots of "illegal" files, don't you think Google would file charges? Would you use the same argument then?
    • javaroast, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Civil disobedience can be an effective way to call attention to unjust laws. In this case the music and movie industries licensing arms have run amok.
  • bigal90, on 10/10/2007, -33/+4yeah im sure that leaked documents some group of hackers released is going to incriminate them to the point of a lawsuit?
  • spaceninja, on 10/10/2007, -12/+19This is a funny gesture, but I don't think it will go anywhere. Not sure how the law works in Sweden, but that information was stolen, in the states it would be thrown out by any (decent?) attorney. If they were to win it would be too many different kinds of funny. I wish them the best in this.
    • imablackguy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+24The information is legal in SE
    • ilgaz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18Well, if you are a big corporation, don't get sued in Sweden. Their law or judges doesn't give a heck to "Big name" companies, they proved it many times.
      • superjer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15I wish my country was like that. :/
      • init100, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6And that is supposed to be a bad thing? Everyone is supposed to be equal under the law, you know.
    • desqjockey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11In the US you could use it to impeach their testimony if they denied doing those things. You couldnt introduce it directly.
    • krische, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Yes, but in the US couldn't you use this to get the police to get a warrant to search MediaDefenders servers and legally get a copy of their emails?
    • gothicform, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2In the UK the laws of commercial confidentiality do not apply in the case of iniquity. They would be fully admissable in court. The USA has similar laws to the uk (both based on common law) and I believe iniquity applies there too.
      • MadCat30002, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0The other countries should not uphold the USA copyright laws. They were "trasmitted through "wireless" internet lines and were "accidentally" re organized to work perfectly. Just because the MPAA's security sucks, doesnt mean they should be allowed to puposefully damage and wreak personal computers and search engines. You cant sue a 12 year old child for downloading music off the internet......

        She's a minor, plus she probably thought she was sharing with her friends. One way to really let everyone know that you are greedy, mean, and out for no good, is to go after a child who isnt even a teenager yet and SUE HER! They originally tried sueing her......FOR MILLIONS!, but of course they dont really talk about that anymore!
        Here is another horrific story of the MPAA's way of bullying people to buy their ***** products that dement kids is the head and cause more problems than the good that these lame and unoriginal films bring:

        American Companies attacking American Kids........how AMERICAN!
    • cbr7, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7The emails can be used as evidence since they are public domain now. Stealing emails and using them is illegal, but using emails stolen and released by an unrelated 3rd party are usable. The only way the companies will be able to avoid the emails would be by claiming and proving that TPB helped in or knew of the hacking done at MD, which they probably didn't until they were posted.

      This is the way it works in all countries, USA included. They could use the emails to sue in the US courts also, but since USA is the land of corporate freedom they probably won't.
    • tuiymclhduguhmc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Everything an be used as evidence in a Swedish court of law. The court will just be told how the evidence were obtained and keep that in mind when they value it.

      But if anyone break the law to get some evidence, they will have to face up to the court for that in another trial. It won't effect the first one though.
  • jdotter, on 10/10/2007, -9/+26Forgive me for a blind digg but I'm still at work and going to thepiratebay right now is not in the best interest for continued employment.
    • Identity4, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Same here... Damn web filtering... :(
    • DukeMojo, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1I use kproxy, have been for awhile. But our IT department is full of stoner pirates anyway, so they just do their jobs 'the best they can'.
    • MadCat30002, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Move out of this country and move where file sharing is supported. The MPAA and other companies are just trying to bully people
  • ilgaz, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19The "other" companies in this business should consider their business model again since with the leaked data, I am sure the legal, big, million dollar P2P businesses are also checking their trackers against malicious attacks even more deeply now.
    They got some very evil lawyers too just like you do. I was watching my IP filter log while downloading a paid torrent (yes,legal) and kinda felt the urge to warn some. You can't mess with my bandwidth or my client while I am downloading legal content.
  • betacmag4u, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22No occupying force (ridiculous copyright holders) can ever hope to defeat a determined local populus (hackers).
  • edtruckell, on 10/10/2007, -4/+25and the shoe is now on the other foot it seems...

    irrespective of the dubious ethics of the situation, this should be taken very seriously. if they (RIAA/MPAA) manage to walk away from this damning evidence that they have been up to no good themselves then we're really going to hell in a handbasket.

    totally agree with the 'support DRM-free artists' comment above.
    • Onyxblaze, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Associations of America don't come into play here...
  • UbuntuX, on 10/10/2007, -7/+9haha Brilliant! Talk about the irony of it all! Instead of trying to be cleverer by making life easier for the consumer's consumption of content they sink to a lower level and literally shoot themselves in the foot. Fighting fire with fire only leads to a bigger flame...
    • TheDaveBoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3They are literally shooting themselves in the foot? Are you sure?
  • CannibalTom, on 10/10/2007, -25/+10satan answered my prayers. suck it jesus!
    • MagicCake, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13What if Jesus likes pirating and he was the one who answered your prayers? /deep thoughts
      • crushfan, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7What if Jesus and Satan have never existed and your prayers were one of the countless prayers which echo through infinity?
  • phantom_mullet, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17This is like the icing on the cake.
  • pyroyetti420, on 10/10/2007, -4/+26i have been reading articles on digg since everone here freaked out over the hd-dvd key being leaked. only now did i make an account for the initial purpose to digg this story. i dont use TPB much, im more a mininova fan. i hope this lawsuit moves forward and gives TPB a legal victory. it would be the perfect eff-you to all these media-dmr-riaa-mpaa-lawyer-types. maybe just maybe they will finally figured out that if you tell ppl they cant do something it only makes them want to do it more.
    • HonoredMule, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7It's not a lawsuit. It's criminal charges. That's right, those big labels we love so much who tried to convince us that file sharing is horrible, horrible evil theft are committing REAL crimes far worse. How ironic.

      I'd love to see some media exposure for this timed to coincide with every one of those stupid downloading = stealing propaganda reels.
      • SpartanComplex, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I'm betting that you'll see hardly any media exposure in America on this issue, because of who controls the media here and I'd be surprised to hear about this even making news elsewhere due to the apathy towards the Internet people in general seem to have.
  • d3sp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+35I'm tempted to buy TPB swagger now...
    • lizajane999, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I bought mine the day the MediaDefender emails came out.
  • kman922002, on 10/10/2007, -13/+5This is funny xD
  • loganhid, on 10/10/2007, -12/+4ships ahyo
  • Jaziek, on 10/10/2007, -13/+5***** the riaa / mpaa.. amidoinitrite?
  • samurimaster, on 10/10/2007, -6/+24Thats right you mother ***** where comin for ya
  • actorboy, on 10/10/2007, -23/+3I'm curious to see what happens. The question I have is, *if* The Pirate Bay loses, will it be reported or buried?
    • zeabu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0They won't. Even if what TPB is doing is illegal, then still it has right to report other offenders. It's not because I'm speeding that I cannot report a robbery or a rape.
  • digggggggggggg, on 10/10/2007, -25/+2hahah, one group of criminals mad that another group of criminals did something *****. What a world...
    • dsmx, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Actually what the pirate bay is doing is legal where there based that's how they can operate completely legally. However what the media comapanies are doing is illegal.
    • init100, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Whether The Pirate Bay operates within or outside the law is still to be determined. One thing is clear though, you won't hear that from the MAFIAA, they will paint TPB as the worst criminals in the history of mankind. Please don't paint TPB as criminals before a court says so, even if the MAFIAA claim that they are.
      • Tias, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2No, that The Pirate Bay operates within the law has been determined, years ago.
  • spearce, on 10/10/2007, -23/+6awesome...now i can continue to steal movies, tv shows, and music without fear.

    /i use piratebay daily
  • Neiby, on 10/10/2007, -29/+1I like TPB just as much as the next guy, but don't you think their complaining about these companies breaking the law makes them look like whiny bitches?
    • dramey, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6It's called tit for tat.
      • Neiby, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1My point is that The Pirate Bay owes its existence to people who are breaking the law. They facilitate the breaking of the law, yet they whine when someone breaks the law in retaliation. Sounds like whining to me.

        Pot, meet kettle. Or perhaps I should say, "What's good for the goose is good for the gander." If TPB can't handle someone breaking the law in retaliation for their own actions then they should pick up their marbles and play somewhere else.

        I use TPB all the time. I just think they should quit whining.
        • Jowsley, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6What TPB does is legal in their home country or they would have been shut down a long time ago. In spite of that fact, companies constantly come around shaking their lawyer stick at TPB.

          On the other hand, what MD did is (apparently) not legal in Sweden. Now TPB is giving MD some of their own medicine. Turn about is fair play.
          • Caffeinate, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It shouldn't be legal in the US, either. MD has been disrupting LEGAL torrents, sucking off bandwidth, and hacking their competitors in addition to hacking P2P sites (not to mention some that are legal). The "defenders of the henhouse" are foxes from the crackhouse, so to speak.
  • WizardGlick, on 10/10/2007, -1/+36I wonder how many of the anti pirate bay posters are media defender employees. It is clear that they read this site. In fact the Stephan Karczmanek in the emails has a digg account.
    http://digg.com/users/thezonie
    Check out his favorite story.
    • xister, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I'm sure they check digg out regularly. Even more so now...
  • CATSCEO, on 10/10/2007, -9/+4Oh snap bro!
  • xlar54, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19My worry is that in order for these emails to prove anything, their credibility must first be established. And lawyers are keen at tackling evidence credibility issues. ALL of this case rides on these emails.
    • DaGeek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13:::their credibility must first be established:::
      Not a problem, They were from a gmail account. Gmail has backups which can be subpoenaed by prosecutors == ARRRRRRR!!!!
      • Physhi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Aye, even if that isn't the case, most people in Europe have a general hate for the States and their companies.
    • supermanred, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2Step 1: Obtain email that proves hacker A was paid by media company B to do illegal act C.
      Step 2: Visit hacker A's house
      Step 3: Interrogate Hacker.
      Step 4: Interrogate media campany
      Step 5: Throw them ALL in jail
      Step 6: visit piratebay.org
      Step 7: download and seed latest warez
      Step 8: ?
      Step 9: Profit.
      • PitbullRaven, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Soooooo... do you work in any way for MD? Cuz I sure as hell would have thought so by your comment.
    • oxphantomxo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3"their credibility must first be established" They did that when they sent the take down notices.
  • Molnies, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I hope Kevin and Alex can talk to the TPB guys when they are in London, would be so cool to bring up this story with them in the audience.
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