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- sputty01, on 10/12/2007, -7/+93Long live TBP! The MPAA have achived nothing from attempting to take them down... well apart from getting Sony BMG's site hacked, Warner Music's site hacked, Antipiratbyrån's site hacked and a whole load of bad publicity aswell.....well done MPAA!
http://www.zone-h.org/content/view/4473/31/ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+77Want to voice your displeasure?
Office of the Chairman and CEO
Washington, DC
1600 Eye St., NW
Washington, DC 20006
(202) 293-1966 (main)
(202) 296-7410 (fax)
There's a real person that answers that phone. I'm sure the secretary has heard it all day. :p - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+78pirates, they're pretty damn resiliant.... if the british navy couldn't rid the world of them, what chance does the MPA or any other TLA have?
- shiftt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+61this is beautiful -
"It seems once again the entertainment industry is about to shoot itself in the foot, unable to stop the global spread of file-sharing. Considering the speed in which ThePirateBay.org is scheduling its return, (which requires a substantial amount of logistics, organization, leadership, and not to mention equipment), it would appear they were well prepared for this event. The same cannot be said about the entertainment industry." - totalshredder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+56skyshock21 is right, there is definitely a person on that line form the MPAA. I asked her why they took out the pirate bay and she kind of let out a sad sigh. I had a nice long argument with her... I wasnt expecting to actually talk to somebody.
Anyway, if you want to vent call that number, it was a lot of fun. - lordthor, on 10/12/2007, -5/+42***** yes, go pirate bay, go, I will be donating $100 when it comes back up.
- LegendOfLink, on 10/12/2007, -5/+41Pirates are actually very crucial to the environment.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster:
"Global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct consequence of the decline in numbers of pirates since the 19th Century." - VladSharp, on 10/12/2007, -5/+39The MPAA didn't achieve nothing. They achieved a lot of publicity - both in Sweden (probably for the Pirate Party) and everywhere else too. Viva la PirateBay. (I liked this comment : You can sink a ship, but you can't sink a bay)
- m00nmaster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+32Of course torrents are legal. All they are is metadata connecting a downloader to the files they are looking for.
- mickoes, on 10/12/2007, -5/+35None because torrent are legal and downloading them is also legal in some countries.
- rotten777, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32Great cheers of jubilee echoed in the entertainment Halls of Justice yesterday, confident of their victory against the great Satan, ThePirateBay.org. ThePirateBay.org, as many are aware, was perhaps the largest BitTorrent tracker in history. Although it was regarded as little more than a pillar of piracy by the entertainment industry, it provided a simple avenue and interface for artists to release creative commons work to the P2P crowd.
This world came crumbling down on May 31, 2006. Seemingly immune from copyright infringement prosecution in their native Sweden, police from the National Crime Unit executed raids against the Internet Service Provider Rex|Port 80 and web host PRQ.
After the successful execution of the raids, the entertainment industry’s media machines went into full force. The MPA (Motion Picture Association) claimed Swedish Authorities had “sunk the Pirate Bay.” The IFPI (International Federation and Phonographic Industry) also clamored the raids, stating “This is a very good development for the Swedish music industry and for the real innovators and entrepreneurs who are trying to build a legal online digital business.” Antipiratbyrån, the Swedish anti-piracy bureau, also expressed its satisfaction after a long string of copyright enforcement impotence.
So now that ThePirateBay.org is offline, the celebration can go into high gear, right?
Remember we’re dealing with file-sharing, the ubiquitous hydra that simply cannot die no matter how many press releases you throw at it. If you destroy one file-sharing network, another will take its place. Remove ten BitTorrent indexing sites, 20 more will pick up the slack. ThePirateBay.org is no different, but in holding true to their nature as defiant to the entertainment industry, this BitTorrent tracker and indexer is scheduled to return within two days.
Although all tracking and indexing abilities are currently offline, ThePirateBay.org domain is still functioning. For the last 36 hours, it has been providing various updates on the raids and status of its administration. And true to their nature as being defiant in the face of the entertainment industry, ThePirateBay.org’s days are far from over.
In large, bold text, the following text is scrolled mid-screen:
“SITE DOWN - WILL BE UP AND FULLY FUNCTIONAL WITHIN A DAY OR TWO”
Yesterday, ThePirateBay.org spokesperson “brokep” informed Slyck.com “we are moving it to another country if necessary.” It appears ThePirateBay.org is making good on this promise. Carl Lundström, employee of Rix|Port80 told Slyck.com “As I take it, they have bought new servers, installed back-ups and are already up and running tests in at least one foreign server centre.”
It seems once again the entertainment industry is about to shoot itself in the foot, unable to stop the global spread of file-sharing. Considering the speed in which ThePirateBay.org is scheduling its return, (which requires a substantial amount of logistics, organization, leadership, and not to mention equipment), it would appear they were well prepared for this event. The same cannot be said about the entertainment industry. - nights0223, on 10/12/2007, -6/+33Actually downloading them is legal in all countries
- dj_sea2005, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27They also kicked up some publicity for TPB. i bet you that when it returns it will have more traffic than before. which = more donations
i mean, its been reported by the BBC and ITN, even though its been reported at the "bad guy" some people would have never of heard of TPB until now. - mickoes, on 10/12/2007, -3/+29I was talking about illegal torrent (the content) , here in Canada we can download music but we can't share it. It's totaly legal.
- coudron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25All this good news calls for a bad pirate joke
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A seaman meets a pirate in a bar, and talk turns to their adventures on the sea. The seaman notes that the pirate has a peg-leg, a hook, and an eye patch.
The seaman asks "So, how did you end up with the peg-leg?"
The pirate replies "We were in a storm at sea, and I was swept overboard into a school of sharks. Just as my men were pulling me out, a shark bit my leg off."
"Wow!" said the seaman. "What about your hook"?
"Well...", replied the pirate, "We were boarding an enemy ship and were battling the other sailors with swords. One of the enemy cut my hand off."
"Incredible!" remarked the seaman. "How did you get the eyepatch"?
"A seagull dropping fell into my eye.", replied the pirate.
"You lost your eye to a seagull dropping?" the sailor asked incredulously.
"Well...", said the pirate, "...it was my first day with the hook."
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I look forward to being one of the first to digg the story "ThePirateBay is Back!!!1!!one" - dmron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24I wonder how much money the MPAA handed over to officials to do this anyways. Like they say, they were doing absolutely nothing illegal in their native country. There has to be money under the table somewhere.
- centinall, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26"You won't use that $100 to pay copyright holders for material you're pirating?"
Not everything there is pirated. Actually, nothing is there except "links" to content. - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22"I asked her"
Geeks, unite and listen to that person! There's a *woman* to talk to there on that phone number!! ;-) - eviltoaster2go, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Wow. I expected they'd come back, but the speed of their recovery amazes me. They should move their servers to Sealand if Sweden doesn't work out. Long Live thePirateBay!
- jals, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18It's the same cycle all over again. I heard about Napster through a news report saying how bad it is. What do you think my reaction was to the news that I could download free music but it was "naughty"? That's right, I went and downloaded Napster straight away.
Same thing will happen here, i.e. introducing a load of people to the fact that they can download free stuff online using these new fangled things called torrents, and hey, they're even pointing you to a good starting site to try out. - NeilSkoglund, on 10/12/2007, -17/+35YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR AVAST MATEYS
- foolonthehill, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23@mickoes
Due to the way BitTorrent works, if you're downloading then you _are_ sharing even while you download. So surely it is in fact illegal? - troykyo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19LMAO
From http://mpaa.org/inter_europe.asp :
"In other countries, such as Sweden, official efforts against endemic online piracy have been weak."
Seems that the MPAA is dising on itself!
- foolonthehill, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19I thought of buying a PirateBay T-shirt before, but decided against it because no-one would know what it meant and I couldn't be bothered explaining to lots of people. Now the general public is aware of TPB, I'll be getting one as soon as the site's back online. Another fine example of the MPAA helping out The Pirate Bay.
- badave, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20@bonchbonch - Why is it that the rights of corporations are more valuable than the rights of people? Where in the Constitution of the United States does it say that profit is a protected right? It wasn't until corporations were considered individuals that they "earned" their "rights", but seriously, hurting a major corporation will ultimately benefit the consumer.
- badave, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18@troykyo - Thanks.
http://img447.imageshack.us/img447/8447/mpaapiratefun6pn.jpg - GreatBunzinni, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17There are european countries where downloading music and movie files is perfectly legal. In my country the law states that everyone is free to access copyrighted works without the owner's permission if it is stricktly for personal use, which is the case.
So the MPAA, RIAA and whatnot can just screw themselves because their press releases aren't law. Well, at least in every country around the globe. - takeda, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16@bonchbonch:
The real reason MPAA & RIAA is fighting P2P is because it makes them obsolete, and they no longer will be needed.
Anyway, making money on selling information was a bad idea on the start. Information cannot be treated as a physical thing. Internet wouldn't be what it's today if you wouldn need to pay an additional fee to access every single website.
As for music I think CDs purpose should be nothing more than a promoting the artist and make fans go to the concerts to support their artists.
The sad thing is that today, the art was simply turned into a business... - robotsongs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Holy crap! Sealand is awesome and depressing all at the same time!
Thanks for the hour I just wasted learning about it!
;) - jmaresca, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16http://mywebpages.comcast.net/stelthvue/digitalpirat.jpg
my tribute to the pirate bay - brickbat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14All these people ranting "It's illegal! It's illegal!" are either stupid or working for an **AA.
Before the internet, there was this thing called fair use. I don't remember anyone saying that copying a tape for your friend was illegal or that taping something off the radio or the TV was illegal. In fact the courts said it was LEGAL. The courts made it clear that the target was always COMMERCIAL PIRATES - People that do it for a business.
Now - just because the technology is better, all of a sudden even if it's still only for personal use, all of a sudden everyone is a criminal.
All of you people yelling PIRATE! PIRATE! CRIMINAL! CRIMINAL! JUST SHUT THE ***** UP. - iSEPIC, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14ugh, what about Sony Music installing a (secret to your knowledge) root kit on your computer, and all you did was BUY a CD and played it on your computer? What about that? oh yeah, you can go and get more of their products (e.g. download some crappy ass iTUNES tracks) for your troubles? Please, what goes around comes around, and the MPAA is yet to get what's coming to them, you just wait and see.
- nstern2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Just wait for the new legal section.
- fani, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Is searching for Torrents illegal ?
If that is the case, then searches on Google/Yahoo etc. are illegal and google/yahoo should be shut down as well.
The answer is obviously : No. Searching on torrents is not illegal. Downloading files that are copyrighted is however illegal. You can use torrents to download legal files and you're ok.
And oh yeah - MPAA/RIAA ( MAFIAA ) sucks. - vesperado, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12well, actually, if this goes to court and TPB isn't found guilty (which should be pretty doubtful, seeing as it's almost as easy to find warez w/ google etcetera), sweden would indeed be that paradise. On the other hand, Thomas Bovström is a crook and a scumbag and won't settle until we rename sweden oceania, and we all "chant war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength"..
I actually find this quite disturbing. As you all know, not only TPB was shut down, a number of political organizations was shut down too. Since it, afaik, already has been stating that linking off-site copyrighted material is not a crime in sweden, I can't help to wonder how on earth the american mafiia can dicatate laws here. In sweden, death row would be highly illegal- we still don't bust your cowboy.
well, upcoming elections this fall.. at least I know whom not to vote for. - deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15"The law has appointed an international body to monitor and control the proliferation of materials under this law. Between the Piratebay and the law who do you think will win?'
You have too much reverence for 'the law', IMHO.
You cannot legislate behavior, especially behavior that pits individiuals against corporations that are essentially allowed to print money while their customers are sued into bankruptcy for not fitting into their business model.
WE (consumers) made that industry. WE can bring it down, too. - pauldonnelly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11The Moon! Because the only thing cooler than a pirate is a space pirate.
- lnxaddct, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Soretito,
They are moving the servers to a new country, Sweden sold out :/ - pheonix2og, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12This is hilarious.... Read the requirements: http://mpaa.org/Internships/wwaie%20intern.doc
They want a free snitch "intern." They just want someone that has been downloading music, movies, etc... to tell them all the best torrent sites so they can shut them down.
TPB should come up with a Pirate Internship to sort through all of their new legal threats (and of course write some more hilarious "You can't touch us" responses). - bogomill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Arrgh!
http://img415.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mpaarrgh9jp.jpg - nmvh5, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11They aren't accepting anything. They are most likely just putting the site up elsewhere until the legal action runs its course. TPB could very well win. If/When they do, they could move back to sweden and throw it in the anti pirate's face. They're jut putting the site up to prove they aren't going to disappear. They're hear to stay!
- kofspades, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14@birch25
piracy != stealing
piracy = copyright infringement
What exactly are pirates "stealing"?
steal v.
1. To take (the property of another) without right or permission.
2. To get or effect surreptitiously or artfully: steal a kiss; stole the ball from an opponent.
3. To move, carry, or place surreptitiously.
4. To draw attention unexpectedly in (an entertainment), especially by being the outstanding performer: The magician's assistant stole the show with her comic antics.
5. Baseball. To advance safely to (another base) during the delivery of a pitch, without the aid of a base hit, walk, passed ball, or wild pitch. - TortfeasorG, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10dude, props on your prediction!
- NeilSkoglund, on 10/12/2007, -12/+21THERE BE TORRENTS ON THE STARBOARD BOW YARRR
- D4V1S, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13i would have copied and pasted but my bucket of paste has run dry... :-(
Seriously, TPB is the ***** Mafia of BitTorrent... - warrenfalk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12@foolonthehill
But what about the fact that you don't share anthing but little parts of the copyrighted data? No one can copyright the one and the zero, so how big to the slices have to be before it's copyright infringement? - swagr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8The MPAA currently needs an anit-piracy intern.
http://mpaa.org/AboutUsIntership.asp - scarz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Which country do the servers goto though? I would suggest Venezuela, Chavez hates America and I think he would love to host the servers just to keep sticking it to the man.
- slut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/756/tpbcheck3mb.jpg
- Systembomber, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Why are pirates called pirates?
Cos they ARGGGGGH!!!!! ;)
Viva la PirateBay -
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