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- inactive, on 08/18/2008, -3/+40i'm gonna set one of my unused computers to just download linux distributions nonstop 24/7. then comcast'll try to try to throttle and try to shut me down
and then i'ma file a lawsuit. - inactive, on 08/18/2008, -1/+25godspeed.
- comalies, on 08/18/2008, -1/+22I'm not a fan of RIAA.
- benologist, on 08/18/2008, -0/+19I'm sure Comcast and any other ISP guarantee you absolutely nothing with your internet connection but good luck.
- HillerMylife, on 08/18/2008, -1/+19It'll just come down to kids passing around USB sticks of bootlegs.
- OfNumbers, on 08/18/2008, -0/+16"..I want to hear from students … I think students should be engaged in this discussion—and faculty, too.” Or you can just look for the students watching The Dark Knight on their laptops.
- inactive, on 08/18/2008, -1/+151. Move into college dorms
2. download using the dozens of unprotected wifi networks around you (or plug a cheap one into a nearby lounge)
3. ???
4. Don't get caught by the RIAA/MPAA - wunksta, on 08/18/2008, -1/+14they have a college for pirates?
- soccernamlak, on 08/18/2008, -0/+13You make an excellent argument.
- inactive, on 08/18/2008, -4/+16***** you Sh0ck4, everyone should be able to use as much bandwidth as physically possible – and companies like Time Warner should go ***** themselves. There's no reason for bandwidth charging/caps.
- Causemos, on 08/18/2008, -1/+12Nothing like continuing to piss off your next generation of customers.
- Mithivh, on 08/18/2008, -1/+10Except for the "owned by someone else" part.
Not that I'm with the RIAA.
***** THE RIAA! :) - inactive, on 08/18/2008, -0/+9as it should be, it should also be every headline of any article about the RIAA – and business cards of employees should read "I work for the RIAA, the pain is unbearable, please kill me."
- blankmedia, on 08/18/2008, -0/+9QFT
- Splynn, on 08/18/2008, -0/+8I can see the original RIAA meeting.
"Yea, we will target a demographic already financially stretched thin what with tuition, books, housing, food, etc that also has a very limited means to make money. We are targeting them with a product that is easily duplicated. What could go wrong?"
So, they are poor, probably already in debt, piling even more debt onto that and you want to sell them stuff they don't necessarily need for a price that represents at least one day's meal budget, but could be two days or more?
On top of this, the product is easily copied? What do you expect them to do, go deeper into debt?"
I always thought the business model that targets those with limited means, or no means of making their own income was flawed. - UberNick, on 08/18/2008, -1/+8That's only for their official access points. If someone connects an unauthorized wireless router, you shouldn't have any trouble piggy-backing off their credentials.
- Eezyville, on 08/18/2008, -0/+7Wow. That blows. Glad mine doesn't do that.
- ShaffeyBoy, on 08/18/2008, -0/+6or you could just seed?
- voodoochild461, on 08/18/2008, -1/+7*****
- kurtwinter, on 08/18/2008, -2/+8Fair Use explicitly allows for academic use of copyrighted materials - therefore, any college that can has administrators that can ***** read would understand that the MP/RIAA has no grounds to enforce any of this ***** on college campuses.
- ZeNiTH456, on 08/18/2008, -0/+5Encryption would be so much more efficient.
- LeviTheSmith, on 08/18/2008, -0/+5Retarded Institute Association of America
- phatphil, on 08/18/2008, -2/+7That's always the FP.
- Epitaph, on 08/18/2008, -1/+6In my college you have a little program that is required to get onto the wifi with a laptop. This program asks for your username and password. So no matter which point you connect to, they know who's doing what.
- noodleashy143, on 08/18/2008, -0/+4My college doesn't allow wireless routers in dorm rooms either. Doesn't mean you can't do it, I did. If mine wasn't secured and someone downloaded through my router, I'd be the one getting screwed because I had to log on using my username and password when I first set it up.
- thephysicist, on 08/18/2008, -1/+5yer, they had a massive crackdown at my University back in 2004, 2003 was great had DC++ running, and everyone was happy
(our computer services knew about it but turned a blind eye as long as it wasnt running during 9am-6pm, then in 2004 all that stopped and they threatened anyone who hosted the servers or used p2p faced academic discipline.
they then capped all p2p programs and scanned the networks for the .exes and kicked people off.
But piracy today on my campus is, as it was back then still going on.
all it takes is one person to d/l a copy take it onto campus and it spreads like wildfire. - abandonedhero, on 08/18/2008, -0/+4Whitworth College, where my brother and few friends graduated from.
http://www.whitworth.edu/athletics/index.aspx - tendonut, on 08/18/2008, -0/+4The fact that you didn't stop after you got caught the first time should be proof enough that their scare tactics aren't working...
- cawpin, on 08/18/2008, -0/+4That would be the university provided wi-fi. Robot is talking about personal routers. Although, most colleges actually forbid putting a router in your room.
- chedabob, on 08/18/2008, -0/+4http://waste.sourceforge.net/
Couldn't students just turn encryption on though? - inactive, on 08/18/2008, -0/+4yeah, I'd say a good 30-50% of colleges are doing that now – It's a pretty horrible system. I was lucky and went to college in that nice period of time where they had broadband connections everywhere, but no tracking beyond knowing what room and IP you were using.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 08/18/2008, -0/+3Damn at my school they charge you 50$ a gigabyte for going over the limit.
- normalkid0615, on 08/18/2008, -0/+3Yo I got that new Jay-Z Stick, 800MB of pure fire!!!
Why are there not any Firewire thumb drives? - MacSuxWindozSux, on 08/18/2008, -0/+3Couldn't you think of a joke term that actually makes sense?
- inactive, on 08/18/2008, -0/+3actually - he is right to some extent cawpin – some universities actually require you to be logged in to access the internet, even through a router in your room. So if you have an unsecured router – someone trying to use it is still required to log in using their own info.
- inactive, on 08/18/2008, -0/+3Great idea until your college bans wireless routers.
NDSU ftl. - voodoochild461, on 08/18/2008, -1/+3L2 Encrypt
- MrTea, on 08/18/2008, -0/+2just download the debian iso's
- smartah, on 08/18/2008, -2/+4Interesting. I go to Tulane, and I didn't realize we had this; in one way, I'm kind of surprised that they don't really make it more known that they're using software like this.
It's good that they're making an effort to allow legitimate uses of P2P while still throttling the illegal traffic--I followed a couple of links to a campus-specific article explaining that they are using CopySense because they were having problems with people not being able to use P2P to download Linux distros. Still, most people with any tech sense are going to find ways besides P2P to download the files they want.
It's also kind of annoying that they are using our tuition to fund 60,000 dollar software/services + 15,000 dollars / year in updates, but then again, that's about 1.5 people at Tulane a year (yay financial aid / scholarships). And I guess if it saves them lawsuit problems, they're saving more money this way than the other route. - WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+2Just say you're doing a project on the impact of emo music on teen suicide rates in Biloxi, Mississippi.... Or the increasing incidence of violence in the 6-16 white male demographic exposed to video games compared to those not exposed.... Or that you're looking for post-post-post-modernistic trends in the 10 most expensive contemporary films. For gods' sakes, if you have no business being in college if you can't ***** your way through something as elementary as that.
- kollross, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2I say thats a huge amount of people. How can people really listen to 40,000 songs that can fit on an ipod? But anyways not the point.
"You say bandwidth costs, like it's a big deal" Your talking thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars a month for bandwidth at a college. Thats not a big deal????
Anyways they are not trying to limit free speech or follow some RIAA agenda. In most cases I think the network engineers are just ensuring bandwidth for all users who require it. - widgetmaker, on 08/18/2008, -1/+3Maybe I misunderstand the system but wouldn't simple encryption defeat this?
Secondly it has no effect on another big source of piracy, people simple sending files to friends or copying whole music collections with a ethernet cable. - Murdats, on 08/18/2008, -1/+3they don't want people donating their money (in the form of paid bandwidth) towards distribution of content?
- Khast, on 08/18/2008, -1/+3Yeah, each time someone's come up with a way to disrupt P2P it has evolved to work around the disruption. Keep up the good work RIAA, pretty soon we'll be able to get around every one of your blocks.
Oh, even though I congratulated you...I still say, ***** You RIAA...your days are numbered. - kollross, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1My University has decided to block ALL P2P, bittorrent included. However you allowed to request a whitelist if you basically promise its for legit use. Basically if they catch you doing something non-legit or if one of those nice DMCA notices comes in your *****.
- Squidwalk, on 08/18/2008, -0/+1traken,
Here's a link to the Large Hadron Collider Rap video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM
That is some educational music and video! But we're talking about copyrighted content, so here's the Animaniacs Nations of the World video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDtdQ8bTvRc - kollross, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1Fair Use allows academic use in the classroom, not for Joe to download every movie he can find. Fair Use in academia is not a blank check to do whatever they want.
- karan1003, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1Someone's missing the point.
- Redrocker, on 08/18/2008, -0/+1Retarded Individuals Against America
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