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- jsmucker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I disagree. I would download with adds if they were to push this. I would not pay per download but would watch the ads. or at least the good ads.
- str3ama, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11oh I get it..now they'll make us use the bandwidth we pay for to run services to make an even greater profit. This makes net neutrality all the more important, they'll slow down other download sites and force you to use the sites they get a cut from.
- brasso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10You are both right and wrong. First of all, bittorrent isn’t about sacrificing speed to get what you want (whatever that happens to be). Bittorrent is even faster than traditional transfer protocols when there are many receivers and much data, and it will be especially fast if there are a few corporate servers acting as seeders with big pipes. Video in high resolution (at least that’s what I’m hoping for) is very heavy traffic and a system like bittorrent will sure help to make this possible.
However, I would still not pay for giving away my bandwidth unless I get something back, like a lowed price if I seed much. I don’t have to bring my own seat when I go to the cinema or pay extra for their power consumption. - mister711, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I am all for streaming media. ABC has a very high quality feed on most of their major shows and they have two 30 second commercials per hour. No waiting and simple enough for my wife to use.
http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing - mystagogue, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6your comment is spot on. however, there may be a potential for cost savings by using bittorrent for distribution, and that savings can be passed on to consumers.
- dbr_onix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5NHOO, not interlaced - Computer monitors have no need for interlacing, interlacing is pointless nowadays, interlacing should have died years ago - 1080p, or more practically, 720p is far more practical - 1080[i/p] files are currently too large for most people (over 25GB for a film is a lot, even with TB drives and such, which most people don't have), for an hour show, a 2GB 720p file is still fairly big, but far more manageable.
- Moskie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I've often wondered how much my cable bill would increase if all the content I get with it suddenly became ad-free. I assume it would be very, very high. I don't think either of us would like it.
I'm not sure how exactly (if at all) money between your cable provider and the networks is transferred, and even if it is, the majority of their revenue is from ads. Take it away... and that money's gonna have to come from somewhere else. Would you like it to be your pockets? - gharding, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Hopefully it doesn't suck as much as pub trackers. Maybe we'll see some ratio-conscious private legal sites :) And honestly, I can't stand the sight of Tribbler. I just want a SIMPLE client to download what I want (legal or otherwise).
- littlebear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"without webservers, and friends"
eh, who needs friends? - smokeonit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2how about just seeding the TV shows as is!!!!
the broadcasters haven't gotten it yet...
if i were a TV executive i'd put a system on the market that puts localized commercials in there based on IP's... that way we get TV content worldwide and the TV sharks their revenue.. that simple.... or is it???? LOL
and no restrictions on countries, europe can download US stuff, US can download EU stuff, aussies can download what they want, even local, LOL... i bet in 5 years they will start this in beta and say it is the ultimate invention.... "experimenting with BT", funny.... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If the broadcasters and record companies had recognised the potential of downloadable content and P2P distribution in the Napster days they wouldn't find themselves in the ***** situation they are in (profits down year on year). All they had to do was recognise that their existing retail models were outdated and adapt quickly to a constantly changing marketplace.
- Smuikas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My thoughts is that the subscription fee you pay is for technical costs. The ads are for production costs. IE, the ad revenue goes to the channels, while the bill revenue (minus premium, hbo, etc) goes to the cable company.
If you want to know how much it would cost without ads, multiply your hbo subscription price by how many 'free' channels you get with your cable subscription. - synctext, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hello All,
A message from the Tribler developers.
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It would be very nice to get feedback the people
who tried out our software.
Our 8-cpu webserver is still holding out. . . :
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Please help us improve Tribler if you happen to run
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Johan. - vaga222, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I really don't see this as anything new. BSkyB has been using BT to deliver their on demand movie content for atleast a year now.
- dbr_onix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"be sold for $$, they need to take out the whole waiting thing"
Not really, if they create the service "right", people won't notice the wait, and stuff will just magically appear in their "To Watch" list.
Yes, it's a slight change from the "Uhoh, [tv show] is starting, I better go watch it!" metality most TV-watching people have now (Which is understandable, since if you miss it now, you've missed it for a while). With downloaded TV, it's more "I want to watch TV now, I'll check what I've still to watch) - It's closer to watching TV shows on DVD, and (in my opinion, as someone who downloads most of the TV I watch - Damned lack of Sky and delayed UK broadcast of "big" shows) far far more convenient. Again, yes, it's a bit of an adjustment, but I really don't care that I have to wait a day or so for the newest episode of [show name] to download, since once it's downloaded, I can watch it when I want, as often as I want, on a TV via [XBMC/Front Row/AppleTV/WinMCE/One of those media-extender devices/etc], my desktop PC or laptop (Again, much like a DVD, only without the psychical media)
This is just the same as happened with records, CD's, VHS and more recently MP3 - They were all deemed the death of the [movie/music] industries, but eventually (more or less) *became* said industries, much like Bittorrent is currently "only used for piracy!", in a few years it (or something similar) will become a huge area of profit for film distribution companies and TV broadcasters - graystar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have been waiting for this for a while. The problem with bittorrent is it takes a lot of time and effort to encode the shows. If the media companies have these pre-encoded then you will not wait. Possibly they could charge premium advert space for "pre release" tv shows on bittorrent.
There is no real incentive to remove the adverts out - effort, plus if you do you need to host it somewhere meaning you do not get the torrent effect advantages of increased speed by diverting liquidity away from the original centralised source.
As for "why should I host for them?" - they will have a massive pipe which when combined with active downloaders wont require seeders. - smokeonit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1720p is fine with me, interlaced sucks, especially on computers and then back to TV's!
and 1080p is impratical due to 10mbit with h264 codec... - Fistfuc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3As long as its at least 1080i
- afairjudgement, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5This won't work. What the big-wigs don't understand about BitTorrent is the concept of us having to wait (usually a while) for something to download...that's the PRICE we pay for illegal media. If things like torrents are going to be picked up by corporations and marketed to be sold for $$, they need to take out the whole waiting thing...thusly rendering the concept of BitTorrent for commercial use...useless. If they're going to charge for their media, they better host it too out of convenience and a reason for us to want to take a few minutes out to download. Damn they're thick.
- n00utkast, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I never understood as to why I pay for cable to provide content for my television and yet at the same time i have to watch advertisements. Either u have advertisements and one doesn't have to pay for cable or pay for cable and get no advertisement....at least thats how i would like it to work.
- cleaton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0seems to be a bad version of vuze to me... (http://www.vuze.com)
- psyno, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3That might be true for live television, but mostly networks know what is going to be broadcast ahead of time and thus it could be downloaded ahead of time. It would be especially helpful for things like commercials, which are aired over and over.
- Nougat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0@afairjudgement (#6474619)
I think you might have it backwards. This is certainly going to be marketed as a "downloadable media" service, without a lot of information presented about the back-end technology (BitTorrent). They'll certainly seed it well enough, and if they can get a large number of users, it only gets better.
The silver lining - when people who had previously not been downloading "content of questionable legality" with a BitTorrent client of their choosing discover the simplicity of doing so, some of them will be more likely to *also* discover The Pirate Bay. - bob301, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Doesn't DemocracyTV already do this?
- afairjudgement, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0If I missed the point of the post, then I'm sorry. Lol. I'm pretty sure I did, i barely read the thing. BUT YOU KNOW I'M RIGHT, even if unrelated to the story!!! :D
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