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- hellengineer, on 07/16/2009, -1/+33***** those who hand over their subscribers details and ***** MPAA, RIAA. Your game is over.
- v10sparco, on 07/16/2009, -0/+22Finally someone stands up for their subscribers. ***** the RIAA. They need to give it up.
- maffiou, on 07/16/2009, -0/+15Galt is a cheap troll...
- deslock, on 07/16/2009, -0/+13FYI, for anyone that wants details (and more evidence that this is a copyright holder trying to stretch his arms into a whole new realm of prosecution):
The evidence presented was an FTP transfer log file showing that files named for their copyrighted works had been transferred to the private FTP address. They don't know what was in the files nor who could access them, nor whether or not the person(s) transferring the files owned them. But their contention is that the files were distinctly named after their audio books and since customers supposedly sign an agreement not to copy the files, a crime must have been committed?
But the files are not made available to the public and are password protected (FTP) and users in the public could never possibly know the files are there.
Isn't it disturbing that private corporations are snooping on people and trying to make law enforcement a tool for their profits? - albatrossSKY, on 07/16/2009, -0/+13a customers details should be protected by the isp. i think this is a huge win.
- eleete, on 07/16/2009, -0/+12You're an idiot. To put it kindly.
- daxxer, on 07/16/2009, -1/+10“You commit a crime online and don’t expect to be persecuted.”
LOL. Well, this really is persecution! - AvangionQ, on 07/16/2009, -0/+9This is the way a Telecom should behave -- if an external corporation asks for your users personal information, you post an online poll regarding your action and get an overwhelming 99% reply saying to fight and appeal ...
- kaosethema, on 07/16/2009, -0/+5BRAVO ePhone!!
- Iceman21, on 07/16/2009, -0/+5They are protecting their customers, and themselves from prosecutions backed by poor evidence.
- chromerium, on 07/16/2009, -0/+4The music industry loves suing individuals, pretty much the only thing it loves more is suing actual *companies*. They can get awesome damages awards that way!
- kaosethema, on 07/16/2009, -0/+4to put i less kindly, you'd be perfect with a bloody hole in your head....
- Choobie, on 07/16/2009, -0/+4God dammit, I am going to make some text files named "Beatles_Discography.zip" and "Billboard_Hits_2008.rar" and write a script to download them via FTP, delete, and download again until I get a notice.
Anyways, it would be ridiculously ***** easy to claim their "logs" are fabricated, especially if the server is properly locked down. They have no real proof that they aren't fake until they raid the server or the client and gather some evidence from them. - carbonfilament, on 07/16/2009, -0/+3MORE WEIGHT!
- Iceman21, on 07/16/2009, -0/+3"They don't know what was in the files nor who could access them, nor whether or not the person(s) transferring the files owned them. But their contention is that the files were distinctly named after their audio books and since customers supposedly sign an agreement not to copy the files, a crime must have been committed"
So
They had no idea whether the files had so called copyrighted music, video or anything currently illegal in them, those files could be anything, hell they could have been song lyrics for all they know.
They had no idea who could access them, who owned them if they were owned by anyone, hell its not even known if the files were illegal copied work or not, let alone what they were.
No wonder it got rejected as evidence, its not even evidence for *****, its a text file of a transfer that took place and the names of the files, nothing else, that could mean anything!!!
Want reasonable doubt? you have it here in shovels.... - HonoredMule, on 07/16/2009, -0/+3FTP is not an encrypted protocol, and when you send data over the internet, it isn't exactly under cover of darkness.
In short, packet sniffing busybodies--probably specifically targeting packets sent to or from port 21, and probably with access to a (perhaps local) backbone somewhere.
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Alternatively, the server may have been available to a group, one member of which snitched in retaliation for some perceived offense or for getting banned. - Choobie, on 07/16/2009, -0/+2And I am going to snitch on myself.
(also I just realized that the second half of my previous post is probably what the article says, I just can't see it since torrentfreak is blocked at work for "hacking and illegal activities") - aimhelix, on 07/16/2009, -1/+3You guys should send RIAA a file with a URL in it and Rick Roll them.
- Rudegar, on 07/16/2009, -0/+2Salem style
- Iceman21, on 07/16/2009, -0/+2Their game is not over until they are no longer around, i wait for that day.
- Choobie, on 07/16/2009, -0/+2Wait, if it was a password protected FTP server (I'm assuming it is a third-party since they don't even know what is on the FTP server or what consists of those files that were transferred) then how the hell did they get a hold of a FTP transfer log?
- Aynoori, on 08/10/2009, -0/+1I think they have make a wise choice, subscribers data should be always PRIVATE.
- rabidbob, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1That's nice, now ***** off.
- GaltShrugged, on 07/16/2009, -27/+1We really have to stop these horrible businesses from protecting criminals. When Ephone loses its appeal, they should just shut them down for conspiracy.
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