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- LANjackal, on 01/28/2008, -2/+141BTW this looks like a typical "filler" news story - reporting on something that was announced a while back as if it just happened today or something. Nothing new in the article at all.
- KlogereEndGrim, on 01/28/2008, -7/+95Why don't they just line the operators of The Pirate Bay up and shoot them one by one?
Calling this a legal process, when it is the bastard child of corrupt politicians and dollar-frenzied monopolies, is an insult to the very basic principles of western, modern punitive law and the democratic ideals, that I used to believe our societies where based upon.
Ethics, democracy and the Law, it's all for sale. - WorkingDead, on 01/28/2008, -4/+91What about google? It has the same functionality. Just search for - filetype:torrent
- ScaredOfTheMan, on 01/28/2008, -3/+78Never mind how long its taken them to actualy charge TPB, (longer than any investigation in Swedish history) The simple fact is, the folks at TPB are very smart and meticulous about following the laws (in Sweden) Who else predicts, nothing will come of this, execpt for wasted Swedish tax Kronas!
- kpsalidas, on 01/28/2008, -16/+91The PirateBay is invicible no one is going to close it :D
by the way this site has information about releases available at the pirate bay http://www.scenereleases.info - bosssmiley, on 01/28/2008, -1/+71Vikings charge pirates with breaking copyright laws?
- latova, on 01/28/2008, -6/+65People who make knives will now be charged as accessories to murder.
- inactive, on 01/28/2008, -4/+41Yo ho yo ho, A Pirates Life for me!!!
- r3drumz, on 01/28/2008, -6/+43***** the RIAA!!
TPB will never go down. - bedouin, on 01/28/2008, -1/+30I actually use The Pirate Bay's tracker to distribute legal material. It's a great way to get your stuff out there. Any closure of The Pirate Bay would mean the death of a really great distribution channel for me.
- moe182, on 01/28/2008, -5/+34Corporations VS Individuals...... the war rages on.
- cigawoot, on 01/28/2008, -3/+29I remember seeing some rapper with a piece of "bling" worth several thousand dollars (hell, its in the Guiness Book of World Records). I wanna know what "bread" I'm taking from him.
- nogami, on 01/28/2008, -3/+26If I lived in Sweden, I'd be pretty pissed - the government is wasting their tax money to prosecute a case for the US media cartels. It has absolutely ZERO benefit for Swedish citizens.
Maybe time for another reminder from the population that the government works FOR the citizens, not the other way around. - cbrunet, on 01/28/2008, -2/+23"IFPI estimates there are 20 illegal music downloads worldwide for every one legal sale, IFPI spokesman Alex Jacob said."
In other words, the best way to combat piracy would be to stop buying legal copies. If 20=1, then 0=0. It's simple math people!! - torched, on 01/28/2008, -3/+24hah! yea, because getting rid of tpb will solve everything :)
- kazamx, on 01/28/2008, -5/+25Anyone remember the original www.suprnova.org? When they closed that down, they said that it was a huge victory in the fight against piracy.
While they can't stop piracy through closing websites, The regulation of the Internet and monitoring of all traffi, could start to cause problems. - norman619, on 01/28/2008, -2/+22What about the companies who provided the metals and other raw materials? They are just as guilty damn it!
- Loonacy, on 01/28/2008, -1/+19Once again there's the elusive The Birate Pay.
- KlogereEndGrim, on 01/28/2008, -4/+22How the hell is Britney going to feed her drug habits?
How is Paris Hilton going to earn a living now that she will not inherit?
How ever will Michael Jackson get his Neverland back?
HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THESE PEOPLES RIGHT TO YOUR MONEY! - smacksaw, on 01/28/2008, -2/+19Hmm. Well, if laws were black and white I would say they have nothing to worry about. But laws are not. The problem is if you get an advocate judge whose broad interpretations of the laws have some sort of political agenda behind it.
Obviously the legislators of Sweden are following the will of the people. If they wanted to make TBP illegal they had 5 years to make a law banning such a thing. Specifically banning it. Instead, the prosecutor and police are not satisfied with the law and will charge them where it does not apply, hoping to find a judge to make an example out of them.
We'll see if this actually makes to court. I don't think it should, but it might if they've got some judges in their pocket. From what I understand, this should be thrown out. No matter what, they're either going to have an RIAA type of thing where people get prosecuted under laws that are not intended for it or they will force politicians to legitimise their legal assault...or hopefully it will all go away for good. - fsweep, on 01/28/2008, -0/+16Naming your site pirate-anything is just asking for a fight.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 01/28/2008, -0/+15If TPB makes it easier for people to pirate copyrighted material, then so do ISP's. I mean if there were no Internet service providers then there would be no piracy.
If there were no Pirate Bay, there would still be lots of piracy.
If they are going to charge TPB then the rest of them are guilty too.
Think about it. - CasaMan, on 01/28/2008, -2/+17I believe the date, January 31, is the/a new fact.
- credence, on 01/28/2008, -3/+17Guys, quit being so hard on the dude. He's in the Ninja business ya see.
- digitalarcanum, on 01/28/2008, -0/+14shareminer: searches all of the file upload sites (*****, megaupload, etc.) and gives you results for anything you search for. Piracy isn't going anywhere.
- Leo55, on 01/28/2008, -7/+19what the lawmakers don't understand is that TBP is a symbol of what bittorrent currently IS.
It does not matter if remove TBP or take it down. So long as a index.htm page on TBP.com, the ideas live on.
/exit V mode - rot13ubercrypto, on 01/28/2008, -2/+14I have a problem with the singling out of "easy" target (tracker sites, college students, etc.) while I can get $2 knock-off DVDs in Kuala Lumpur Chinatown -- I find it egregious that people who "share" are nailed while people who pirate for profit are untouched. I also agree with your implication that piracy through sharing doesn't translate into lost sales (as opposed to piracy from selling illicit copies of stuff.)
However, while we can question the taste of some thug's platinum grill, the amount of money that the "owner" of something has is not relevant -- whether someone affected by your actions has a lot of money or is poor should not factor into the equation (again, I'm not making a value judgment about whether pirating music/films/software/whatever is right or wrong, just that whatever you believe should apply to all artists/producers/copyright owners equally.) - cdcdark, on 01/28/2008, -1/+12Why are you digging him down? That is exactly what is happening, US pressure one Sweden is plays a large role in this investigation, and I doubt without it there would even be one.
- rjmoriarty, on 01/28/2008, -0/+11Yeah. While I support The Pirate Bay, it amazes me that they actively choose such a label and then go around overtly reminding us that what they do is, in fact, not illegal.
- azimuthal, on 01/28/2008, -1/+12that's yarghhh
- djchester, on 01/28/2008, -4/+14Hold your horses, it's Sweden you are talking about. The country ranked as nr 1 in the democracy ranking. The case has not even started in court, give the legal system a break! Just because they try a case don't mean the whole country is corrupt or that they will win the case.
- Saea, on 01/28/2008, -2/+12Bah, TPB is untouchable, don't even try wasting your time and money.
Live Free! - Audacitor, on 01/28/2008, -0/+10If they started monitoring traffic, there would be riots in the streets, I proudly among them. There's just no way the government and telecoms will get away with it, even if they get away with it in the courts. Keep in mind, when you start monitoring the Internet, you don't just offend Diggers, or just Youtubers, or just Anonymous, you get everyone mad at you.
- shakin, on 01/28/2008, -3/+13Really? Because when I went to watch National Treasure at the theatre on Saturday night the projector broke with about 40 minutes left in the movie. When I went home I downloaded it and finished watching it. I am a "pirate", and yet I paid to see the movie. It's a lot like when I download MP3s of an album I already own on CD. Strange how that works, huh? How it's not always some punks out to rip off the entertainment industry. How sometimes people want to download for convenience rather than to rip people off.
- lepton, on 01/28/2008, -6/+15What would be next? Shutting down the phone book industry because I can use them to look up phone numbers of bookies, prostitutes and dope dealers?
- csulok, on 01/28/2008, -7/+16"Pirate Bay helps Web surfers share copyrighted music and film files, which is illegal in many countries, including Sweden."
since when? - cheesehead, on 01/28/2008, -1/+10Wouldn't a more accurate headline read " American puppets in the Swedish gov't have caved to pressure from the Industry puppets in the American gov't and are forcing their handpicked judicial puppets to impede international digital progress on behalf of the Global Corporate Overlords, who seek to own or control everything"?
- inactive, on 01/28/2008, -4/+12Those fools... don't they know they can't stop people from sharing information?
- norman619, on 01/28/2008, -0/+8No worries others will pop up.
- Phyltre, on 01/28/2008, -0/+8I would strongly prefer this kind of system to the kind of system America has right now. I know firsthand that calling the police isn't a good defense for any situation where I am in danger of bodily harm--if 20-30 minutes isn't enough to kill me at leisure, the perpetrator probably isn't capable of killing me.
- Pixelante, on 01/28/2008, -2/+10The "information age" is just a transitory phase. "It should be free" is not an argument you can make. Sooner or later - but I'm betting on sooner - regulation will be in place that will strangle the currently unchecked information flow forever.
The Net will be another market. Nothing more. - corpuscollossus, on 01/28/2008, -7/+15Skating is not a crime.
And by skating of course I mean illegally downloading copyrighted data - ZBrannigan, on 01/28/2008, -0/+8Since 1960, and there were major additions to the law in 1993 and 1994. Here it is translated to English in its full length:
http://www.wipo.int/clea/docs_new/en/se/se046en.ht ...
Running a search engine on the other hand - not quite as illegal - cheesehead, on 01/28/2008, -0/+8The same thing is going on in Canada right now. The American Gov't and Industry lobbyists are strong arming our Gov't for digital copyright, just like they did with the pot laws and the extradition of Marc Emery. Yankee go home!! and take SPP and Free Trade with you.!
- lcarsdeveloper, on 01/28/2008, -2/+10Wow...what an amazing website. I quote - " Hello and welcome to wing-chun your online resource site which includes the History of this system, the Curriculum, the Principles and the forms and the techniques about it and also, some videos.Ambition of this site is to inform people who are interested in their favourite martial art about its forms, techniques and anything related with this system of Kung Fu. Navigation: Just choose the category that interests you.For example if you are interested for the History of Wing Chun you must choose the "Wing Chun" and then the category History."
Great work **claps slowly**
/sarcasm - Radan, on 01/28/2008, -0/+8Though, while we Swedes are lucky enough to live in a very secure, but still a relatively free environment, our justice system is seriously flawed in so many ways. I can't say 'corrupt' is the best way to describe it though, it's actually more the other way around. For example, a couple of years ago, an eighteen year old girl got beaten to death by two guys and then dumped into a hedge, simply because she choose the wrong time and wrong place to go and buy some bread in the local grocery store. Some year later, both of the "killers" got freed from all charges simply because it was impossible to prove if both, or only one of them had actually beaten her to death and the other one simply standing by and watching this happen (and then helping the killer dump her into a hedge).
All this happened because of our failing justice system's strict belief that everyone is innocent until the contrary has been proved, and is horrified that they would put an innocent man or woman in jail (though they are unbelievably efficient when they are handing out parking tickets).
Also, the fact that the police even consider putting any recourses whatsoever on the TBP-case simply saddens me. While do have a relatively low crime rate, when crimes actually happens, our police force is so undermanned that there's pretty much no point calling them in the first place (most of the time they don't come in the fear of someone pulling a prank, and when they actually come, it may take hours before they arrive). - magnusbe, on 01/28/2008, -0/+8I think the Palme assasination investigation has gone on for longer than the TPB-case. To name just one.
- cwgannon, on 01/28/2008, -0/+8I follow you in your opinions, but I'm sorry that I can't share in your optimism in there being riots on the streets were the government to allow surveillance of internet traffic. Regulations on internet traffic of all sorts will (soon?) be passed by politicians catering to the internet service providers--AT&T, Comcast, etc.--under the guise of protecting children from would-be sexual offenders, intercepting terrorist communications, and other such nonsense that has the intention of good but goes awry in working toward achieving that intention. Of course, every expert will speak to the contrary, bringing up the violations of our rights to privacy and the ridiculousness of the signal to noise ratio in trying to monitor such a huge amount of information for such small amounts of traffic. Nonetheless, the public will lap it up as they (we?) always have, swallowing whatever advertisements and other such things necessary to maintain the status quo.
Call me crazy, but I don't even think that this is tinfoil hat-type stuff anymore. - tortfeasor, on 01/28/2008, -2/+9That's not relevant; cursing the **AA, from time to time, is healthy, productive and leads to shiny hair with great lift.
edit: damn it - this was in reply to Nightfall; I'm still working on my first cup of coffee. - Koookie, on 01/28/2008, -2/+9*****. You'd take it up your whiney ass and do nothing about it. You haven't done anything yet, have you? Need I remind you Oh look, american gladiators is on!
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