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- JogaLuce, on 07/14/2009, -0/+39Or people are less likely to respond incriminatingly to a survey after a decade of lawsuits?
- fury420, on 07/14/2009, -0/+26"file-sharing is proving less popular as a source of music especially teens among teenagers."
teens among teenagers eh? - dvsbastard, on 07/14/2009, -0/+13Survey: ***** the RIAA
- krisrm, on 07/14/2009, -0/+12"Hi, sorry, mind if I ask you a couple of incriminating questions about... computer stuff that's certainly not related to any piracy lawsuits?"
Yeah, this was *definitely* not biased at all... - Blax, on 07/14/2009, -0/+10It could also be a result of Spotify. I managed to get it work in Canada, and it's ***** brilliant!
- JoeHague, on 07/14/2009, -0/+10I'm not suggesting the survey is tainted- but if someone called me on the phone or e-mailed me, or stopped me on the street and asked me- I don't think I would incriminate myself/
- jtotheoe, on 07/14/2009, -0/+9i refuse to believe this.
- BahamaBreeze, on 07/14/2009, -1/+9Haha, yeah right. I'll believe when my ***** turns blue.
- pattyhax, on 07/14/2009, -0/+6I don't think the results are that surprising.
I make it a point of interest never to tell strangers about any illegal activities that I choose to participate in.
With the lengths copyright lobbyists go through to catch pirates, would I ever put it past them to make note of individuals who knowingly announce to the world that they are committing crimes? - afredus, on 07/14/2009, -1/+7Meanwhile, listening to music on youtube is way up.
- Blax, on 07/14/2009, -0/+5You can if you know what you're doing. :)
- Charbanned, on 07/14/2009, -0/+4There's less good music coming out so nothing good to pirate.
- PeaceShot, on 07/14/2009, -0/+4I think it's an anonymous survey, but people's skepticism may get the better of them.
Though it could be Spotify. Can't get it here in Australia, though. - Culyt, on 07/14/2009, -0/+3Of course they could just be manipulating statistics since the government have been saying now for ages that they are going to reduce file sharing so they will want their survey to claim its working.
For example there is a big difference between, "have you downloaded music of the Internet" and "have you committed copyright infringement". - bigplrbear, on 07/14/2009, -1/+4everyone's back to copying/borrowing CDs, which is a little harder to catch
- uberduger, on 07/14/2009, -0/+3Maybe that in 2007, people didn't think they'd go to court for music piracy. Whereas now they're watching their backs a little better. As mentioned, I'm not sure I'd tell some random person in the street that kinda stuff...
- SniperZero, on 07/14/2009, -0/+2Back to sneakernet are we?
- uberduger, on 07/14/2009, -0/+2I think it's probably to do with all the lawsuits. Maybe fewer people are *admitting* to file-sharing in the survey. If someone asked me to my face, I'm not sure I'd be entirely truthful - for all you know, they might be an RIAA undercover scumbag with a video/audio recorder ready to take you to court.
- covertbadger, on 07/14/2009, -0/+2Can you prove that the 2007 survey, which forms the basis for comparison for the 2009 survey, was worded differently? If the surveyers asked the same question in 2007 and 2009 then you can't dismiss it on these grounds.
Frankly, I don't see why people are struggling with this so much. Since 2007, there haven't been any high-profile filesharing busts in the UK. We generally don't get old grannies being busted and fined 6 figures because of something their grand-daughter. That's a privilege saved for those who live in the land of the 'free'. We just get the odd half-assed warning letter from ISPs who never follow up. So I don't think anyone has been scared off. What HAS changed, however, is that iTMS has gone mainstream, and streaming sites have gained in popularity, so it's hardly surprising that less people feel the need to illegally download.
8 or 9 years ago when MP3 sharing and DRM were still in the relatively early stages of battle, a common claim of filesharers was that DRM was unacceptable because it meant they didn't 'own' their music (not that they ever did before, but never mind that). Now the next generation has come along and has practically never had to pay for music. You know what happens when you get something for free? You cease to value it. The current teen generation doesn't CARE about 'owning' music, they only care about access to it. Today's streaming sites allow that, and so what little value there ever was in downloaded MP3s has diminished even further. - uberduger, on 07/14/2009, -1/+3Every time I get the 'this content is not available in your country', I send a PM to the company responsible (most often seems to be UniversalMusicGroup) saying how I saw their message, and that instead of watching it with their blessing, I went and pirated it from the Pirate Bay to listen/watch whenever the hell I want. Then I thank them and wish them a pleasant day.
Feels good, man. - chameleon789, on 07/14/2009, -0/+2I wonder if it's related to the increase in popularity of alternate means (last.fm / spotify / itunes / myspace) of streaming music. It's possible newcomers to the whole internet music scene find it more convenient to simply stream the music they like as opposed to the shouldering the long waits and relative complexity of p2p.
- ISellSigals, on 07/14/2009, -0/+11000 people isn't really enough to say it is going down - in that high selective sample the figures have gone down this does not mean in any way shape or form that the total number has gone down.
- staystilljason, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1just to clarify the "teen" from the "agers"
- inactive, on 07/14/2009, -1/+2try harder
- covertbadger, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1The results are down since the last survey in 2007. That's the thing about relative statements - they are relative in comparison with something.
Why would people admit to filesharing in 2007 and not in 2009? There haven't been any particularly high-profile bust in the UK in that time. The worst it gets over here is a few ISPs threatening to reduce your bandwidth.
Or maybe, just maybe, filesharing really has gone down, and the only reaction that other filesharers can have without piercing their thin veil of self-justification is to mock the survey, and conveniently forget the 2007 survey. - inactive, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1Because downloading old movies and music is impossible.
- JoeHague, on 07/14/2009, -2/+3Actually it was tainted/
- Jerky1312, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1This isn't bad to have this reported. It depends on what the RIAA/MPAA attribute it to though. They will argue its due to their lawsuits and site shutdowns, but in reality, it might be something else. Either way, even if the statistics were going the other way, the RIAA/MPAA would still insist they had to continue with their failed attempts to curb piracy. It's not going to happen.
- dicer999, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1I guess I will have to start doing more to make up for it.
- inactive, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1They simply disappeared through proxy.
Life is better underground.. - Hewbie, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1i smell B.S. research enforce their version of truth :/ add another to pile of ***** when they goto judge/ or local govt. PM try get ***** laws in place. T_T
- bbliss17, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1The overall percentage of those regularly (at least once a month) using file-sharing software and services to download music is 17% in the survey conducted in January 2009, compared to 22% in the December 2007 survey. Amongst 14 to 18-year-olds, the percentage fell from 42% to 26%.
Wow, they really are going to go by this survey? If this was done completely anonymous than it would be much much higher. - jcannonb, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1This just in: UK hackers and downloaders have figured out how to use non VPN and proxy services to make their P2P activities invisible, and seem to come from the US...
- SuicideMouse, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1Invites?
- randall814, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1Probably because of ***** companies like BT that throttle, monitor, and fair-use your internets to death.
- covertbadger, on 07/14/2009, -2/+2It's down compared to the last survey they did, 2 years ago. You'd knew that if you read the article, instead of the normal knee-jerk reaction of self-justification.
Or perhaps you could explain how the survey is biased now but wasn't in 2007? - captaintrips121, on 07/14/2009, -0/+0if i were in the music industry, this would actually bring me to reality. people have filled their hard drives with the music, movies etc, they always wanted, and now, well, since there is rarely a good movie, and most music is horrible noise at best, people are moving on. people will take most anything for free, but few will simply keep taking sh*t. they cant produce albums or movies as quick as they can be downloaded, legally or not. sooner or later, the amount of downloads will slow down, because there is not enough new. this may be the end of the aa's, and they are probably celebrating their "success"
- covertbadger, on 07/14/2009, -1/+1There has been nothing in the UK to indicate that going to court for music piracy is any more likely than it was in 2007. Sweet old ladies getting fined a few million by mistake is a strictly American thing. Over here the ISPs just send a letter vaguely threatening to reduce bandwidth, then do nothing about it.
- DoodleMaster, on 07/14/2009, -2/+1If current music and movies suck where do you personally find entertainment?
I mean you've eradicated two of the major venues already from a possible list of lesiure activities.. - animus, on 07/14/2009, -6/+4its because current music and movies suck.
the end.
amazing how quality is never a factor in you ***** idiots' pea brains. - diggitupyall, on 07/14/2009, -5/+2haha you said taint
- dandwreviews, on 07/13/2009, -6/+1Interesting!
- CB810, on 07/13/2009, -11/+2The Brits are more moral than us? I'm not surprised...
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